Panning

[golden beers]

in the center

[golden beers]

sorry for the rubbish reply though

[atma]

its pretty arbitrary and a matter of your personal taste.. other than bass and kick are usually centered.

[Praxisaxis]

There are no hard and fast rules... the Beatles recorded a few hits where the kick and snare are well off-centre.

Having said that, it's about creating a balanced feeling for your listener, so that if you place dominant elements of your recording off-centre, it's hard to maintain that balance. What's more, you can run into trouble with bass instruments being panned. So... kick and snare - centre, bass - centre, vocals - centre, generally everything else can get panned to some extent, so long as something else balances it out on the other side.

Keep in mind there's no harm in keeping everything in the centre - this does NOT mean your recording will be mono or narrow sounding - there's a big difference between a stereo effect caused by relection delays and simple panning - look it up if in doubt. I tend to use panning as a "spice" rather than habitually doing it.

Also remember that in electronic music, stereo effects are often applied to elements which are traditionally mono - basslines for example (though many people split off the lower frequencies and keep these mono, or retain a subbase channel in mono).

Hope this helps.

[Ghosted]

Dance music for clubs? In that case in the center, because some clubs play in mono, and if they play in stereo, then you'll miss half the stuff if you're on the wrong side of the club...

Center for your main instruments, use chorus to fill it out for headphones and pan your percussion and effects all lover the place. Again, this is for "club play".

[Mononym]

Originally Posted by Ghosted

Dance music for clubs? In that case in the center, because some clubs play in mono, and if they play in stereo, then you'll miss half the stuff if you're on the wrong side of the club...

Center for your main instruments, use chorus to fill it out for headphones and pan your percussion and effects all lover the place. Again, this is for "club play".

pretty sure clubs take a stereo track and make it mono....they dont just plug in the "left" channel.....

[Yoozer]

Originally Posted by golden beers

sorry for the rubbish reply though

rubbish topics deserve rubbish replies

rubbish topics demand a quick summary of decades of work

sound generation that is not acoustic is also not dependent on rooms so adding panning and reverb is a way of trying to make up for that fact



find the equivalents that you're using for the instruments above and have fun

[subsonix]

Originally Posted by Mononym

pretty sure clubs take a stereo track and make it mono....they dont just plug in the "left" channel.....

you'd think!

sadly I've played in some that do just that

[Mononym]

Originally Posted by Yoozer

Why does it say "China" on the right side???

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by Mononym

Why does it say "China" on the right side???

it's not China the country, it's China the dinner service, tea cups and the like, you pan all the plates, cups and saucers over there on the right.

youre welcom

[subsonix]

Originally Posted by Mononym

Why does it say "China" on the right side???

china cymbal

[gremlin moon]

[Headz51230]

Originally Posted by Yoozer

rubbish topics demand a quick summary of decades of work

[Analog Prophet]

Originally Posted by Yoozer

rubbish topics deserve rubbish replies

rubbish topics demand a quick summary of decades of work

sound generation that is not acoustic is also not dependent on rooms so adding panning and reverb is a way of trying to make up for that fact



find the equivalents that you're using for the instruments above and have fun

Nice graph Yoozer! But do you really pan the hihat all the way right and booth toms at the same side instead of one per side if you have two toms (just curious)?

The genre of the setup of instruments and the position of them in this graph looks like old school hard rock like AC/DC, Kiss or the cool rocking santas ZZ Top to me and maybe not so EDMish

[Yoozer]

Most of those graphs and EQ diagrams are indeed for bands and more old-school setup. They don't exist for electronic music because electronic music setups do not have a "1 drummer, 2 guitar players, a bass player and a vocalist" equivalent.

Even when 90% of the people would have a Juno-60 or Sylenth, the frequency range and the palette of sounds of a synth is way, way bigger than guitar (which, played traditionally) can be neatly put in a box. Said Juno can do bass or lead sounds - so it's not really confined.

Furthermore, since there is no real "room" to speak of (producers will have monitors, and all sounds will come out of those) you have to simulate room and placement. That makes the number of possible combinations really big, so there's no quick and easy diagram.

Not to mention that electronic music spans from Aphex Twin to Eno - for each genre you'd require a new diagram - if it could even be standardized like that in the first place.

[nebelfrau]

Originally Posted by Analog Prophet

Nice graph Yoozer! But do you really pan the hihat all the way right and booth toms at the same side instead of one per side if you have two toms (just curious)?

The genre of the setup of instruments and the position of them in this graph looks like old school hard rock like AC/DC, Kiss or the cool rocking santas ZZ Top to me and maybe not so EDMish

Well, replace everything that says guitar with synthesizer and drop the majority of the cymbals and it isn't too far off.

As far as toms, that is subjective. My personal favorite way of panning drums is kick and snare in middle and then have the two highest toms panned slightly left and right of snare and then have the rest descend from highest to lowest to the right hand side. As if I was actually drumming right handed.