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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | Pro One Price
So how much would you guys pay for a pro one in todays market? I already have a moog source an SEM patch panel and I'm thinking of adding a pro one or possibly a Korg MS20
Thoughts? Is the Jwire version of the Pro one better?
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J-wire is the better model. I paid $1200 not long ago but they go up to $1500.
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I'd say $1,200 if you're patient.
Yes, J-Wire is "preferred," but here's a thought: If you're just after the sound and are planning on triggering via CV/gate (or midi'ing it), then you could go for the membrane version (sound is equal, just a different keyboard construction).
Personally, I buy my synths because I want the sound in my music, not as a collector, so I'm always looking for the "less desireable" while still getting the sound.
Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by Dirty Halo I'd say $1,200 if you're patient.
Yes, J-Wire is "preferred," but here's a thought: If you're just after the sound and are planning on triggering via CV/gate (or midi'ing it), then you could go for the membrane version (sound is equal, just a different keyboard construction).
Personally, I buy my synths because I want the sound in my music, not as a collector, so I'm always looking for the "less desireable" while still getting the sound.
Just a thought.
-andrews | Well I could get one in really good condition, jwire version for £875 right now. Quite locally.
Would you go for it?
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Here's a site that tracks all the recent sales from ebay. Sequential Circuits Pro-One Synthesiser
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Dubtek71 | Great thx...
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#7 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Odey Well I could get one in really good condition, jwire version for £875 right now. Quite locally. Would you go for it? | I might. But why does that matter? Do what you want; it's your money. £875 means something different to each and every one of us. |
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Odey Well I could get one in really good condition, jwire version for £875 right now. Quite locally.
Would you go for it? | Thats about 1400 US. Tarko recently sold his in the UK for a bit more than that so it seems to be about the going rate. Its a bit less than I paid for mine at $1600 for a very minty unit off ebay several months ago. Go for it, you can always resell it for the price you paid.
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Originally Posted by FullCount I might. But why does that matter? Do what you want; it's your money. £875 means something different to each and every one of us.  | defently worth over 1000.- everthing underneath is a good price
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Odey Well I could get one in really good condition, jwire version for £875 right now. Quite locally.
Would you go for it? | That's a few hundred bucks more than what I see them go for, but then again, factor in shipping, it may be just right.
The other advantage is, you can test it out and make sure it's in 100% working order (always a gamble on ebay).
Lastly, I'm only comparing to prices here in the U.S., they may be a bit more expensive in the U.K., so that price seems pretty darn close, if not good.
Here's one thing to do, go to eBay, type in Pro One, then on the right, hit "advanced" and then do "completed listings" and you can see what they've ACTUALLY sold for (and on eBay UK)... I'd hate to give you incorrect advice.
Good luck, they're great!
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Originally Posted by Dirty Halo That's a few hundred bucks more than what I see them go for, but then again, factor in shipping, it may be just right.
The other advantage is, you can test it out and make sure it's in 100% working order (always a gamble on ebay).
Lastly, I'm only comparing to prices here in the U.S., they may be a bit more expensive in the U.K., so that price seems pretty darn close, if not good.
Here's one thing to do, go to eBay, type in Pro One, then on the right, hit "advanced" and then do "completed listings" and you can see what they've ACTUALLY sold for (and on eBay UK)... I'd hate to give you incorrect advice.
Good luck, they're great!
-andrews | Great thx. I've checked out a few completed listings and £900 uk seems about normal. Not a steal but not overpriced.
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Odey Great thx. I've checked out a few completed listings and £900 uk seems about normal. Not a steal but not overpriced. |
Go for it!
And please let us know how it goes, how you like it.
(The great thing about buying used gear is, as long as you get it at a decent price, you can always turn around and sell it, often for a bit more than you bought it... great way to try out gear!)
Break a leg!
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Dirty Halo Go for it!
And please let us know how it goes, how you like it.
(The great thing about buying used gear is, as long as you get it at a decent price, you can always turn around and sell it, often for a bit more than you bought it... great way to try out gear!) Break a leg!
Andrews  | 
And then run away with the guys keyboard? Now I know how you "purchased" all your gear.
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Originally Posted by Dubtek71 
And then run away with the guys keyboard? Now I know how you "purchased" all your gear. |
Hell yeah, you don't think I actually PAID for any of my gear?!
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Months ago jwire 1200.00 is what I paid.
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#16 | | Gear maniac
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About $1600 to $1800 that after buying it in eBay plus reconditioning it to a decent working order.
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#17 | | Lives for gear
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Paid £900 with delivery. Should receive it wednesday!
Was really tempted to buy the monotron duo as well but refrained!
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I paid maybe $250 about 10 years ago....
I'll be honest for $1500 I'd say that while its a cool synth, you could probably get something better in that price range.
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Originally Posted by kslight I paid maybe $250 about 10 years ago....
I'll be honest for $1500 I'd say that while its a cool synth, you could probably get something better in that price range. | Well an MS20 is another one i'm really interested in but the go for about £1200 UK. I don't think it's too bad to be honest. I have a prophet 5 too and I love that.
What would you have got?
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Originally Posted by kslight I paid maybe $250 about 10 years ago....
I'll be honest for $1500 I'd say that while its a cool synth, you could probably get something better in that price range. | I can't think of a better monosynth in that price range than the Pro-One. Only synth I'd want besides it is a Minimoog but those are 3-4x as much.
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Originally Posted by Arcadia I can't think of a better monosynth in that price range than the Pro-One. Only synth I'd want besides it is a Minimoog but those are 3-4x as much. | Really? I liked the sound, and there's a small part of me that wishes I kept it, but I definitely don't miss the fact that every time I transported it (carefully, even) the J-wires got all out of place and I'd have to crack the thing open so I didn't have a stuck note...and I did replace all the rubber grommets on that one.
Sonically though, if I were going to consider dropping that kind of cash on a synth I'd be looking at a Micromac, modular, or ditching mono entirely and getting a Mopho x4 or Prophet 08.
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#22 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by kslight Sonically though, if I were going to consider dropping that kind of cash on a synth I'd be looking at a Micromac, modular, or ditching mono entirely and getting a Mopho x4 or Prophet 08. | I think sonically the Micromac is in the Pro One's league. But it's over $1700 for the rack version and you still need the Eurorack case, power supply, etc. The desktop version is over $2300, so significantly more than what the Pro One goes for. You can get some great sounds in Eurorack, but I'm not sure you can get Pro One type sound and functionality for $1200. And I have a Mopho and I like it (and it shares the voice structure with the Mopho x4 and almost the same as the Prophet 08) but the Pro One kills the Mopho for bass IMO.
I think the Pro One is still one of the best synths around from a value standpoint given the sound. Assuming you're willing to put up with the various hassles that come with owning a vintage synth, that is.
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Originally Posted by NWSooner I think the Pro One is still one of the best synths around from a value standpoint given the sound. Assuming you're willing to put up with the various hassles that come with owning a vintage synth, that is. | agree with this 100%. i probably spent over the odds for mine if i add up the additional work that's been done to it but it's my favourite and most used instrument by far so it was entirely worth it.
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#24 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by NWSooner I think sonically the Micromac is in the Pro One's league. But it's over $1700 for the rack version and you still need the Eurorack case, power supply, etc. The desktop version is over $2300, so significantly more than what the Pro One goes for. You can get some great sounds in Eurorack, but I'm not sure you can get Pro One type sound and functionality for $1200. And I have a Mopho and I like it (and it shares the voice structure with the Mopho x4 and almost the same as the Prophet 08) but the Pro One kills the Mopho for bass IMO.
I think the Pro One is still one of the best synths around from a value standpoint given the sound. Assuming you're willing to put up with the various hassles that come with owning a vintage synth, that is. | Dollar for dollar maybe not an exact fit, but if you are prepared to drop $1500 its not a huge stretch (IMHO) to something in and above that territory and currently manufactured, especially since many of the newer synths are on the used market (sans Micromac, obviously).
I have (and still do many of them) owned a couple dozen different vintage synths and the Pro One was easily the most unreliable of them all... Definitely a..uh..studio instrument, if one can afford to drop $1500 on an instrument that just sits there.
Overrated at that price point, I think...but hey I'm a cheapskate, and a poor excuse for a Gear-slut because of that fact if I do say so myself.
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Sonics and features wise what even compares in the $1500 price category?
The desirability of the Step sequencer and arp cannot be underestimated.
Someone above mentioned the Minimoog. But at double the price. No. Not really. Perhaps an Arp Oddysee? Still away more money.
The modern DSI stuff leaves me cold.
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I paid $1300 CDN two years ago for a completely serviced, near-perfect cosmetic J-wire Pro-One. I thought it was pretty much on the mark then for a nice working unit. Considering what they go for now in retrospect I think I got a bargain.
You might want to consider the Yamaha CS-30 (or it's brother the CS-30L) as an alternative in the same price range. It's not quite as punchy, ballsy, or even as musical as the Pro-One (but then again, what is?) but its crazy modulations and built in sequencer will give you some of the Pro-One's mojo. The one thing it has over the Pro-One is that the CS monos are built like tanks with reliable keyboards.
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It's arrived. And there it is nestled in the middle. It's like museum quality seriously! Keys are a bit stiff though. Is that normal? It's the jwire version.
And also I've just noticed there is no fine tune for Osc 2. Does this cause problems? How do you get around this as I regularly use the fine tune on the prophet 5.
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Originally Posted by Odey It's arrived. And there it is nestled in the middle. It's like museum quality seriously! Keys are a bit stiff though. Is that normal? It's the jwire version.
And also I've just noticed there is no fine tune for Osc 2. Does this cause problems? How do you get around this as I regularly use the fine tune on the prophet 5. | My keys are a bit stiff and clicky as well - seems to be normal I guess. And yes, the tune of the oscillators seems to be a coarse adjustment only - it's hard to get those really detuned sounds.
One other thing - when I first got mine the OSC tuning was set such that the left-most position was the default tuning and you could basically only tune up. But my tech said the SVC manual says it should be set so that 12 o'clock is null and then you can adjust up or down so that's how mine is now.
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#29 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Arcadia My keys are a bit stiff and clicky as well - seems to be normal I guess. And yes, the tune of the oscillators seems to be a coarse adjustment only - it's hard to get those really detuned sounds.
One other thing - when I first got mine the OSC tuning was set such that the left-most position was the default tuning and you could basically only tune up. But my tech said the SVC manual says it should be set so that 12 o'clock is null and then you can adjust up or down so that's how mine is now. | Yes I really think it would be better with a fine tune. Those detuned slightly out sync oscillators sound really cool.
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Originally Posted by kslight I liked the sound, and there's a small part of me that wishes I kept it, but I definitely don't miss the fact that every time I transported it (carefully, even) the J-wires got all out of place and I'd have to crack the thing open so I didn't have a stuck note...and I did replace all the rubber grommets on that one. | Quote:
Originally Posted by Arcadia My keys are a bit stiff and clicky as well - seems to be normal I guess. | It's a Pratt & Reid keybed, the same one used in Arps, Minimoogs, and a bunch of other synths. The bushings are widely known to deteriorate over time, and need to be replaced. This is a common issue and the fix is a common and relatively easily done fix.
kslight - if you were having problems with the J-wires, it was your specific keybed that needed attention, and was not a reflection on the general roadworthyness of the Pro-One in terms on J-wired jumping about.
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