Haha, I understand the literal meaning, it just seems to have shifted its definition. It seems to mean "a build-up" or something nowadays, like "a beat" means drums, bass, keys, etc.
That's not white noise, it's piched noisy crossmod sounds. Just like my 242 example, being noisy FM synths and reverb from drums being the "noise".
White noise? No.
Actually there is about every kind of noise in that track. Filtered white noise, sampled and pitched white noise, distorted, sampled and pitched white noise, a synth patch with a feedback CV loop through a filter or some weird crap like that (no oscillator patch), and that wacky thing at the end was a snare drum sample ran through max/msp where the snare drum in a buffer was divided by a cycle modulating the sample rate playback then being converted back into numerical data and modded back onto itself through the X/Y coordinates in buffer table. (plus probably some other odd math I don't remember anymore)
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Using white noise as an alternative for things like snares or cymbals is one thing, but I gotta admit that I have been perplexed by the use of plain old white noise just blasting away non-stop during the entire chorus sections of quite a few recent pop tunes. Stuff by Lady Gaga, Pink, Kelly Clarkson etc. Not the kind of stuff I normally listen to, but I've heard it. Kinda makes you grit your teeth and want to turn it down as soon as the chorus starts, even if the volume is already low.
Most annoying example I heard was this: "Goin' In" by Jennifer Lopez. Mixed and produced by GoonRock
I want to know why trance tracks are still being made. What's the point? Don't these people get tired of making the same ****ing track over and over and over and over again? Some lame synthriff through a sea of reverb and an uninventive 4x4 "umph-tsss" drum pattern that switches on and off at pretty much the same place every time? Like seriously, what the **** is going on with that shit? And why make more of it? Can they even hear a difference between an old track and the new one they just made? Are they making this music in their sleep (as some Future Music videos would in fact suggest)? Could someone make wake up the trance producers and give them a cup of coffee or something?
I guess my message to EDM producers would be: IF YOU HAVE TO MAKE TRANCE MUSIC, THEN TRY TO AT LEAST HAVE ONE ORIGINAL ****ING IDEA IN YOUR TRACK AND DON'T JUST MAKE STUFF ON AUTO-PILOT ACCORDING TO SOME TIRED OLD RECIPE WE GOT SICK OF YEARS AGO THAT WASN'T EVEN VERY TASTY TO BEGIN WITH, BECAUSE THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS AND WE CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE.
And with that, I trust that we will now enter a new golden age of dance music!
Amen to that ;-) Sounds pretty much the same as it did when I was going to clubs that plaid this stuff in the early 90's!! But after reading this thread I've realised what Trance needs - some white noise!
I just got some great headphones and now seems like 90% of the EDM I listen to is full off annoying ear piercing white noise not all of us are poor and or listening to music on Ibuds.
yeaaah lol
all those angellos,max vangelis ,swedish crap mafia and stuff,it is basically woooosh swooosh all the time.
sooo annoying ,and as you pointed out it actually pierces ears,totally irritating and not creative.
just blasting and stacking 1000 white noise sample from sample packs and put it anywhere where you dont know how to make a nice transition point or have no idea for any melody seems a recipe for so many producers nowadays.
There are producers that know how to use noise though and they do it great but here we talk about those that overuse it beyond any sense
there is diffrence between creative use of white noise and opposite to this,sticking it everywhere where you have no idea for anything else. The second option is simply clearly "visible " (hearable? lol..im not native english spk).
I just got some great headphones and now seems like 90% of the EDM I listen to is full off annoying ear piercing white noise not all of us are poor and or listening to music on Ibuds.
"I never try to please others when I make music; there is only one person who has to like what comes out of those speakers, and that person is myself." -Eric Prydz
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not all of us are poor and or listening to music on Ibuds.
