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Old 20th September 2012   #1
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Syncing Rolands Arpeggio with Cubase

What would be the best way to trigger an arpeggio clock of midi-less synths like JP8, Juno 60 etc. out of Cubase ?

I recall a discussion a while ago on which it has been claimed Rolands takes high voltage input for Arp clock while a soundcard would output a much lower signal, so basically it won't work by just connecting the card's out to the clock in of the synth and send short pulses...

I once was able to trigger a Juno that way but the sound it played was strangely different from the present sound, as if the input signal manipulates it instead of only setting the arpeggio clock.
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the way i do it is with a kenton box. it has an arp clock output which work perfectly.

i go cubase -> kenton -> JP8
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It depends on the audio interface, but you may get away with feeding an audio pulse, such as a rim-shot or the like into the JP-8's trigger input. It's a bodge, but it can work OK if you just need it from time to time.
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What's the Kenton product ? Is there a box which combined MIDI to CV/Gate and Arp clock triggering for Rolands ? Anything which combines Roland/Korg/Yamaha ?

I was also wondering if it is going to work just by amplifying a signal which goes out directly from the sound card. Or when using a drum machine to take midi in and send clock out. I know some Roland drum machines can do that but I tried sending clock from a RX7 to a Juno and it didn't work... Does Roland synth only take clock out of Roland drum machines.. ?
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Does Roland synth only take clock out of Roland drum machines.. ?
I trigger/sync my JX-3P's sequencer with a gate signal generated from a midi to cv converter. Lots of fun can be had with irregular spacing of the gate pulses.
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What's the Kenton product ? Is there a box which combined MIDI to CV/Gate and Arp clock triggering for Rolands ? Anything which combines Roland/Korg/Yamaha ?
Kenton Pro Solo has midi to cv/gate and an aux out for clock.
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I use the Pro2000 to sync my Juno 60 to Cubase
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What would be the best way to trigger an arpeggio clock of midi-less synths like JP8, Juno 60 etc. out of Cubase ?

I recall a discussion a while ago on which it has been claimed Rolands takes high voltage input for Arp clock while a soundcard would output a much lower signal, so basically it won't work by just connecting the card's out to the clock in of the synth and send short pulses...

I once was able to trigger a Juno that way but the sound it played was strangely different from the present sound, as if the input signal manipulates it instead of only setting the arpeggio clock.
I have tried to send short pulses(short audio kicks)from Cubase into the arp in of the SH-101.Never worked so it's probably a case of the Roland requiring too high a voltage for that.Worked well with a Korg Monotribe albeit it required some work on my behalf, like gain staging the pulses inside Cubase before doing what I expected them to do.In a similar note to what already mentioned, funny things can happen if the pulses' amplitude is not set right...
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that should work. it has a 'sync' output that converts midi clock from your daw into a gate signal. though you'd need a eurorack case with a power supply (i.e., tiptop audio's happy ending case) to stick it in which would be somewhat costly in the end.
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I made a few tests today and finally was able to drive a Roland arpeggio directly from the soundcard. I believe its a matter of source file, frequency and levels. Basically what I did was sampling the "click" trigger out of a DMX (it has a special "click" output), loading the sample into a separate Maschine instance in Cubase into a pattern sound slot, where it triggers 16 times for a bar, driving it out of a dedicated soundcard output directly into the Arp Clock in of the synthesizer. To be able to get the arpeggio trigger correctly (i.e no missing notes, no multiple triggering of a single pulse) I needed to adjust the output level and place an EQ which boosts the low end (sound card channel output on max level, Maschine and Cubase outputs on the default 0db settings).

What didn't work - using a maximizer, using a compressor, boosting mids or highs.

BTW, when connecting the DMX click out to the arp in, I did need to use a compressor pedal with a certain setting to be able to get it work right.

So all in all, it is possible to trigger an arpeggio without a dedicated external adapter.
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