Doepfer MAQ16/3 question

[mildheadwound]

Cv mixers if you're using them all into the same source. You could even use those doepfer passive mixers for the gates. The Cv's would probably require a buffered mixer. This won't really work properly if, say you have three sequences of cv, and they are all going to the same oscillator, because any time two notes hit at the same time, the pitch will be CV1 + CV2, etc... You may have to resort to some kind of switch, if you want them to go to the same source, but at different times.

I'm not too familiar with the MAQ16 directly, it may have internalized routing, which would save you from this headache.

[Analog Prophet]

I'm a little bit interested of the 16/3 for my analog synths. It is good value for the money? Does I work good in conjunction with a DAW (Logic)?

[droid]

Originally Posted by mildheadwound

I'm not too familiar with the MAQ16 directly, it may have internalized routing, which would save you from this headache.

Thanks for your answer, I was actually wondering if anyone knows if it can be internally switched so the three rows all send to one CV/Gate output.

[droid]

Originally Posted by mildheadwound

I'm not too familiar with the MAQ16 directly, it may have internalized routing, which would save you from this headache.

thanks for your answer, I was wondering if anyone knows if the three rows can be internally routed to one CV/Gate output only.

[droid]

Originally Posted by Analog Prophet

I'm a little bit interested of the 16/3 for my analog synths. It is good value for the money? Does I work good in conjunction with a DAW (Logic)?

It´s ok even though pretty oldschool as you have to get familiar with the menus etc. I also have a Doepfer Dark Time and an MFB Urzwerg which is my favorite of the three. I only got the MAQ to be able to make 32- or 48-step patterns but now I´m afraid that´s not even possible.

[Analog Prophet]

Originally Posted by droid

It´s ok even though pretty oldschool as you have to get familiar with the menus etc. I also have a Doepfer Dark Time and an MFB Urzwerg which is my favorite of the three. I only got the MAQ to be able to make 32- or 48-step patterns but now I´m afraid that´s not even possible.

Thank you Droid, that is useful information to me.

[Llitsor]

Originally Posted by droid

Thanks for your answer, I was actually wondering if anyone knows if it can be internally switched so the three rows all send to one CV/Gate output.

Each row has it's own CV & Gate output, but they can not be linked together in any way that I am aware of.

Analog Prophet: It works fine with Logic in my experience Although I use it in a fairly simplistic way.

(Did you know Doepfer has been making these for nearly 20 years?!)

[Bio]

Each row has it's own CV & Gate output, but they can not be linked together in any way that I am aware of.

You can link them but not on the CV/Gate output, only on the midi out : just set all 3 rows on the same midi channel. Then you can use a external midi/cv converter.

Imo the MAQ is a bit old, too much menus and not enough direct control.

For live use it's best to control it in midi (so you can have access to all the parameters), if not there isn't much you can do with it live.

I'm not familiar with modern alternative but i think that seq like midibox or Sequentix P3 are far better designed.

[Analog Prophet]

Originally Posted by Bio

.For live use it's best to control it in midi (so you can have access to all the parameters), if not there isn't much you can do with it live.

That's what I like - access to all parameters with dedicated knobs

[bassfreak]

Originally Posted by droid

It´s ok even though pretty oldschool as you have to get familiar with the menus etc. I also have a Doepfer Dark Time and an MFB Urzwerg which is my favorite of the three. I only got the MAQ to be able to make 32- or 48-step patterns but now I´m afraid that´s not even possible.

hey Droid, i would be really interested to hear why you think this!
The reason i ask is because when i was looking for a sequenzer, i couldn't decide betwwen the dark time and the urzwerg pro as a controller for the modules, and as i was fairly green then, (and had abit more money) i bought both. my impession of the "dark time" was/is quit negative. I find it very user unfriendly, and not very intersting. The "Urzwerg Pro" is much better i feel, much more intuative and versatile, but to call it a "Pro" is overstating it a bit. I'm at the point where i am looking for a more proffesional sequenzer, with longer sequenze possibilities, and some form of recall option, so my wish list is down to the "Analogue Solutions EUROPA", "Analogue Solutions Oberkorn MK3" (con- no recall possibility), or the Doepfer MAQ 16/3. So why do you prefer the urzwerg over the MAQ??? surley 3 x 16 is better than 4 x 8 or 2 x 16??

[droid]

Originally Posted by Bio

You can link them but not on the CV/Gate output, only on the midi out : just set all 3 rows on the same midi channel. Then you can use a external midi/cv converter.

Thanks, found out about that, too. Would have been cool if it would have been possible to not have to convert to Midi but use the CV/Gate only.

[droid]

Originally Posted by bassfreak

hey Droid, i would be really interested to hear why you think this!

Nothing I can really put my finger on, it´s just that I get the best results most quickly using the Urzwerg. I like how you can mute single steps with the buttons and also how you can detune the intervals quickly. Also, shuffle and chain functions are nice. If it would be possible to chain all 4 rows it would be just perfect...... I was hoping to get a 48-step chain functionality with the MAQ but obviously it´s not possible (without converting to Midi).. Yes, Oberkorn 3 was something I wanted to check out in the near future, too.

[xclark]

Originally Posted by bassfreak

my impession of the "dark time" was/is quit negative. I find it very user unfriendly, and not very intersting.

I have the Dark Time and I think it's really awesome and incredibly user friendly. I do mostly Berlin School type sequencing and for that it's really playable.

[bassfreak]

Originally Posted by droid

I was hoping to get a 48-step chain functionality with the MAQ but obviously it´s not possible (without converting to Midi)..

i just realised that that would be possible with this midi to cv converter (if i understand the manual correctly) and then there is still the 3 x cv out from the MAQ to use and if you still need midi signal, then this has a midi thru capability
Kenton PRO-SOLO MKII

[Bio]

i just realised that that would be possible with this midi to cv converter

It's possible with any midi/cv convertor, as i said you only need to set all 3 rows to the same midi chanel.

The kenton is very good, but a cheaper one will do it too.

[droid]

Originally Posted by Bio

It's possible with any midi/cv convertor, as i said you only need to set all 3 rows to the same midi chanel.

The kenton is very good, but a cheaper one will do it too.

Thanks for the tip, of course this will work, however I thought it would maybe be possible to just set this internally (obviously it isn´t and I actually don´t understand why they didn´t include this).

[R.U.Nuts]

sorry if this is kind of off topic, but I have a question about the urzwerg: I can´t find a clock divider dial on it. so, if it is clock-slaved to another sequencer or a daw, how can you adjust its timing? -I´m planning to buy either a dark time (which has a clock divider) or an urzwerg. the urzwerg looks more appealing to me due to the two more rows, but if it only had a fixed time division when slaved, this could be a dealbreaker for me.