Want to make a pseudo hybrid synth, need your help!

[schmuck]

wow a massive bunch of work but surely it would be interesting and fun. Cannot comment on everything, but for 2)
- Little Phatties and Voyagers can be put to polychain mode, so that one is the master and the others are the slave; then connect them in a midi chain (midi out master to midi slave in slave1, through slave1 to slave2 in, slave2 trough to slave3 in etc). I think the taurus can do it, too, so maybe/hopefully the minitaur does it as well. Search the manual for polychain.

Another thing: the expert sleepers stuff is for midi to CV out (or in) so I don't think it will help in triggering the sw omnisphere.

good luck! (and don't forget to post some stuff if it works out, video would be best grin;-)))

[Rogue Ai]

Why not just get Silent way and use modular synth filters and vcas?

[m.o]

If you're on PC then pizMidi can do it for you: Insert Piz Here - pizmidi
From the page :

midiPolyphony - For spreading polyphony across MIDI channels, i.e. if you play 4 notes, each one will go to a different channel. Polyphony per channel can be set from 1 to 16 notes for more flexibility. You can also use it to convert polyphonic input to monophonic output.

[clusterchord]

exactly..

expert sleepers will take care of gating (to fire off envelopes to open VCAs), CV to govern pitch of VCF (if needed for kbd tracking etc), and indeed has provisions for polyphonic operation i.e. round robin scheme.


anyway, instead of buying four Minitaurs, as previously sugguested you could get four VCFs (and choose one with integrated VCA like Tiptop 2040) and get a double ENV for each.


however i still think the $$$-per-voice ratio of all these scenarios isnt as good. for 4 x minitaur $$$ you can buy a real analog polyphonic synth like OB-8. and mod it to have input to as many of its voices (i.e. filter inputs), incl cv/gate as you like.

then you get expert sleeprs ES-3 (for four voices) or two for 8voice polyphony, and use their round robin plug.

ive been toying with this idea for a while now..

[Vertflyer]

Originally Posted by schmuck

wow a massive bunch of work but surely it would be interesting and fun. Cannot comment on everything, but for 2)
- Little Phatties and Voyagers can be put to polychain mode, so that one is the master and the others are the slave; then connect them in a midi chain (midi out master to midi slave in slave1, through slave1 to slave2 in, slave2 trough to slave3 in etc). I think the taurus can do it, too, so maybe/hopefully the minitaur does it as well. Search the manual for polychain.

Another thing: the expert sleepers stuff is for midi to CV out (or in) so I don't think it will help in triggering the sw omnisphere.

good luck! (and don't forget to post some stuff if it works out, video would be best grin;-)))

I am hoping some kind of polychaining will be supported soon for the minitaur.

Originally Posted by Rogue Ai

Why not just get Silent way and use modular synth filters and vcas?

I am looking into this. It is up there as an option.

Originally Posted by m.o

If you're on PC then pizMidi can do it for you: Insert Piz Here - pizmidi
From the page :

Looked into this and they say there is a mac version. This could be exactly what I need!

Originally Posted by clusterchord

exactly..

expert sleepers will take care of gating (to fire off envelopes to open VCAs), CV to govern pitch of VCF (if needed for kbd tracking etc), and indeed has provisions for polyphonic operation i.e. round robin scheme.


anyway, instead of buying four Minitaurs, as previously sugguested you could get four VCFs (and choose one with integrated VCA like Tiptop 2040) and get a double ENV for each.


however i still think the $$$-per-voice ratio of all these scenarios isnt as good. for 4 x minitaur $$$ you can buy a real analog polyphonic synth like OB-8. and mod it to have input to as many of its voices (i.e. filter inputs), incl cv/gate as you like.

then you get expert sleeprs ES-3 (for four voices) or two for 8voice polyphony, and use their round robin plug.

ive been toying with this idea for a while now..

I need to investigate pricing a bit. By the time I get the cases, power supplies, and modules, It seems like im in the same range as a minitaur. But It couldn't hurt to go modular either! And I am no so much after a poly analog as I am after a hybrid. Something I can send any digital synth voice through, whether it be VA oscilators, or samples, or FM...etc

[clusterchord]

Originally Posted by Vertflyer

And I am no so much after a poly analog as I am after a hybrid. Something I can send any digital synth voice through, whether it be VA oscilators, or samples, or FM...etc

perhaps you misunderstood what i meant by bringing a poly into the picture -

if you add ext inputs to several of its voices, plus cv/gate control (pretty easy to do), it becomes one half of your polyphonic hybrid - a polyphonic "backend" for your VA or PCM oscillator coming from DAW, i.e. it provides you with the filter, vca, lfo and 2 envelopes for each of your DAW created voices. its your choice how many you want to utilize (and also depends on the expert sleepers hardware i.e. no of channels)


anyway my point was, you get more analog real estate for your money going poly than buying multiple monosynths, like minitaur. not to mention preset memory etc. and last but not least, imho something like OB8 sounds much nicer than minitaur for polyphonic applications, esp you will like the 12dB CEM filter for strings, pads etc.. there's also 24dB when you need brass, stabs etc.

only thing that imo minitaur does better out of the box, is classic ladder 24dB bass,,, but for that you don't need polyphony.


anyways, let us know what route you went. im always intrigued with such crazy combinations.

im doing the DAW->ES3+ES5->Prophet5 rev2 first.. five CVs five GATEs. got some info from ES manufacturer that its going to work.. my goal is to playback the polyanalog with sample accurate firing of the gates/voices via ES... completely without MIDI jitter/latency/crap.

its gonna be ubermegafantastic if it works