AKAI S1100 Questions
Old 3rd September 2012
  #31
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use converter, for example chicken sys translator

make program in format you like, for example kontakt
and then convert it, save in akai format
Old 3rd September 2012
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Editing midi notes all day long is the opposite of what making music is.
a small korg electribe as sequencer for the akai can do the job.. together around 200.- or you pay a bit more for a second hand mpc 1000
Old 3rd September 2012
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a small korg electribe as sequencer for the akai can do the job.. together around 200.- or you pay a bit more for a second hand mpc 1000
I love that idea =] Hopefully they interface with each other seamlessly that would be my main concern. Would I have to map the Sampler to the Electribe? How do I figure out how to set up the Electribe as a Sequencer for the Akai Sampler?

thank you for any help you can give me
Old 3rd September 2012
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Thats three parameters per sample - midi note, upper range, lower range. Even if it was just one param per sample, you would be putting in two per second - without any error or keyboard testing?
Ok, I am now confused? Is Don talking about the Key span feature? I have always felt it slow to map samples across specific keys? Perhaps I am missing something? I would love to know!
Old 3rd September 2012
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I love that idea =] Hopefully they interface with each other seamlessly that would be my main concern. Would I have to map the Sampler to the Electribe? How do I figure out how to set up the Electribe as a Sequencer for the Akai Sampler?

thank you for any help you can give me
sure you have do the mapping.. the akai is not one of this teleptahic samplers..
Old 4th September 2012
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I have always felt it slow to map samples across specific keys? Perhaps I am missing something? I would love to know!

I don't have access to the sampler now, but detailed "how to" is described in the S1100 manual. I managed to map three key ranges (three samples) per one second. Thus 5 octave (62 samples) takes roughly 20 seconds. Same job using mouse in NI Kontakt took me 5 minutes. This is why i prefer Akai (next to its great sound).
Old 4th September 2012
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a small korg electribe as sequencer for the akai can do the job.. together around 200.- or you pay a bit more for a second hand mpc 1000

I really like the interface of the EMX-1

Korg ElecTribe MX (EMX-1) | Vintage Synth Explorer

But it's a lot more expensive than the old Electribes obviously...like the EA-1.

Korg ElecTribe A (EA-1) | Vintage Synth Explorer



I have a few questions regarding if the EA-1 (the less expensive model) will be more than enough when setup to control the Akai sampler.


It says that it's a 2 voice, 2 part multitimbral instrument. Does any of that matter when controlling the Akai?

The EMX-1 has a lot more buttons on it. The extra ones that I'm curious about are the ones directly under the PLAY button labeled "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6A, 6B, 7A, 7B" Will those provide me any major benefits when programming drum patterns that trigger the Akai over the layout that the EA-1 has which doesn't have that row of buttons?

Thank you for any help!!
Old 4th September 2012
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I don't have access to the sampler now, but detailed "how to" is described in the S1100 manual. I managed to map three key ranges (three samples) per one second. Thus 5 octave (62 samples) takes roughly 20 seconds. Same job using mouse in NI Kontakt took me 5 minutes. This is why i prefer Akai (next to its great sound).
Very cool, I will look over the manual! I don't remember this. Thanks
Old 4th September 2012
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Very cool, I will look over the manual! I don't remember this. Thanks
You should first go to PROGRAM EDIT. Then go to KGRP and then to SPAN. The goal is to get to the page where you have the key ranges in front of you. Now select the cursor and do one "click" till you come to the first sample in the list and its low note. As of that moment you are setting ranges using a midi keyboard and cursor will automatically advance from key range to key range.

If you're building a drum set, what you do is basically strike each key on the keyboard twice and you do it fast. Hence the speed(!). You hit it twice because: first for the low range, second for the high range. After that cursor automatically advances to the next sample. And so on.

I've learned that trick on S3000XL since it is mentioned in its manual (but maybe not in S1100 manual?).

Optional1: go to SMP1 and set ED: ALL. Now move cursor down and set pitch to CONST. As of now, no need to tune samples and mess with the EDIT SAMPLE menus. All the samples will now play at their original sample rates.

Optional2: Go to SMP2 (make sure ED is still set to ALL) move cursor to playback and select TO END. This will ensure each drum will play properly to the end.

There. Your 62 key drum set is finished in about 30 seconds. How'bout that!
Old 4th September 2012
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You should first go to PROGRAM EDIT. Then go to KGRP and then to SPAN. The goal is to get to the page where you have the key ranges in front of you. Now select the cursor and do one "click" till you come to the first sample in the list and its low note. As of that moment you are setting ranges using a midi keyboard and cursor will automatically advance from key range to key range.

If you're building a drum set, what you do is basically strike each key on the keyboard twice and you do it fast. Hence the speed(!). You hit it twice because: first for the low range, second for the high range. After that cursor automatically advances to the next sample. And so on.

I've learned that trick on S3000XL since it is mentioned in its manual (but maybe not in S1100 manual?).

Optional1: go to SMP1 and set ED: ALL. Now move cursor down and set pitch to CONST. As of now, no need to tune samples and mess with the EDIT SAMPLE menus. All the samples will now play at their original sample rates.

Optional2: Go to SMP2 (make sure ED is still set to ALL) move cursor to playback and select TO END. This will ensure each drum will play properly to the end.

There. Your 62 key drum set is finished in about 30 seconds. How'bout that!
lol 90s flashback!!!! just got an image of myself doing that in a dark studio in south london....

soft samplers for me now... and occasionally the S1100 for FX
Old 4th September 2012
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soft samplers for me now
booooooo!!! ssssss!!!!
Old 4th September 2012
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booooooo!!! ssssss!!!!
but i got an S1100!! in the rack!!!!! ready to go....

isnt the main thing that I own one? F making music.. it's all about owning the gear is it not?
Old 4th September 2012
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You should first go to PROGRAM EDIT. Then go to KGRP and then to SPAN. The goal is to get to the page where you have the key ranges in front of you. Now select the cursor and do one "click" till you come to the first sample in the list and its low note. As of that moment you are setting ranges using a midi keyboard and cursor will automatically advance from key range to key range.

If you're building a drum set, what you do is basically strike each key on the keyboard twice and you do it fast. Hence the speed(!). You hit it twice because: first for the low range, second for the high range. After that cursor automatically advances to the next sample. And so on.

I've learned that trick on S3000XL since it is mentioned in its manual (but maybe not in S1100 manual?).

Optional1: go to SMP1 and set ED: ALL. Now move cursor down and set pitch to CONST. As of now, no need to tune samples and mess with the EDIT SAMPLE menus. All the samples will now play at their original sample rates.

Optional2: Go to SMP2 (make sure ED is still set to ALL) move cursor to playback and select TO END. This will ensure each drum will play properly to the end.

There. Your 62 key drum set is finished in about 30 seconds. How'bout that!
Thanks! Trying this today!
Old 5th September 2012
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Also.. If you get an S1100 you probably don't want to keymap every sample by hand. I use Recycle to chop up and automatically keymap samples vis SCSI.
What's your SCSI set up? Are you using an older computer for this, or does it work just fine on a modern PC/Mac with SCSI interface? What software are you using?

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If I need to edit the midi notes I still can but I don't want it to be where I start my programming. Like with an MPC, TR 909 etc. You aren't staring at midi notes while you program your beat in. But if you need to fix all the things I mentioned you still can.
What's wrong with a cheap pad controller? Listen, look at the pads, or anything else, while you play/record. Fix if you need to. Editing a sequence on an MPC isn't all that nice (for me anyway). I find a mouse + screen to be a good design though. I'm guided by what I hear, not what I see. The interface just lets me change things faster, with the extent of control that I like to have. I often leave or deliberately edit musically inaccurate timing. It's just feel that counts in the end.

From memory, MPCs have editing features, including editing several events at once, and popular swing too. Watch some videos first though, and find out what you are in for. I never owned an MPC, but a friend had one for a while. I didn't love the sequence editing on it. The re-sampling was great fun though, and a good selling point at the time for the emerging breaks scene. It allowed for the often tedious process to be something more hands on, faster, and directly interactive.

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isnt the main thing that I own one? F making music.. it's all about owning the gear is it not?
I thought it was all about getting the gear you don't have yet. The stuff you've already got is hardly exciting, surely?
Old 5th September 2012
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My current method for getting sample into the S1100 fast; I use mainly for drum sounds.

Mac MDD w/UL3D SCSI card
OS9
S1100
Adaptor SCSI cable
Recycle software (when it still supported SCSI)
Emagic's AMT8 USB
Old 5th September 2012
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@OP: honestly i would stay away from the rack sampler & electribes combo. just get an MPC, preferably the 3000. rack samplers are a PITA to program, and the electribes cannot compare with the sequence power and tightness of the 3000. besides everything will be centralized on the 3000 including saving sound&sequences (which would be separate and another PITA to manage). sampling, editing and creating programs is also a lot faster & simpler then on the rack models (albeit more limited, but fine for drums)... there are a lot of akai rack afficionados here that will attempt to sway you their direction and tell you working on them is a breeze, but chances are they've been on them for 15-20 years... i hear you're considering the switch to hardware to get away from DAW headaches, be careful not to step into a whole new arena of frustrations.. my advice: get the MPC first...once you master it, if you still find the need, add a rack sampler for the added features/sound
Old 28th December 2012
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...does anyone want to buy a S1100?
Old 28th December 2012
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...does anyone want to buy a S1100?
PM me with a price and I might.....
Old 30th December 2012
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Yes! I've been searching for one in good condition
Old 28th January 2013
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They seem to be hard to find.

I just got one off Craigslist in Nashville. Whining power supply, dead backlight, dead floppy, no internal storage, 4 MB of RAM for $150. Didn't know any of the defects ahead of time. My friend who lives in town had to drive 45 minutes to get it and ship it to me, so I was gonna take it no matter what condition it arrive in.

So far, even with all the BS, it's a really cool unit! I have no storage at the moment so sampling is a little tough, but it's really responsive and the workflow seems pretty decent. I certainly sounds good, that's for sure. Very Akai, yet smooth and musical.

I have another coming from Canada from eBay that I believe is in better shape, but only 2 MB of RAM. I need to get a zip drive and probably some more RAM, but I want to play around first. Hopefully the floppy on the one coming works (AND IT DOESN'T WHINE LIKE CRAZY).

Assuming the next unit is better, this other one will be on eBay if anyone wants to put the energy into it.
Old 30th January 2013
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I waited ages for an S1100, but nothing came up locally, or on eBay. Dubtek kindly sold me his. For the next three months after I bought one, I saw many become available, some not too far from me. It seems to have quietened down again since. Some things seem to come in waves of activity.

I think it's really worth getting these with max RAM, and working SCSI and effects from the outset. The parts can be difficult to find, and relatively expensive. It doesn't cost that much more to get something well equipped from the outset.
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