Finally bought a virus ti polar 2!

[synthoid]

Originally Posted by lovekrafty

prog change enable is active
have never been able to get the TI to change patches on other synths

Any suggestions?

Prog Change enable is for receiving program changes, not sending them. AFAIK the Virus doesn't send PC messages.

-synthoid

[lovekrafty]

Originally Posted by synthoid

Prog Change enable is for receiving program changes, not sending them. AFAIK the Virus doesn't send PC messages.

-synthoid

Wow that,s crazy a modern synth that does not send program changes
never would have guessed, thanks

[Ambience]

Dubstep

[Ambience]

Damn no one liked my sound? -_-

[kcearl]

you mentioned the dreaded "D" word!

[Ambience]

Btw both of my examples was Omnisphere using their default oscillators, none of the sampled osc.
Just wanted to see if the virus really had a distinguishable sound. Apparently not lol

[kcearl]

Originally Posted by Ambience

Btw both of my examples was Omnisphere using their default oscillators, none of the sampled osc.
Just wanted to see if the virus really had a distinguishable sound. Apparently not lol

??? the "dubstep" one was pretty shit tbh

I could make a virus sound pretty shit too... never listened to the first one

[joonebug]

Originally Posted by Kamurah

and finally....

Because I am a geek and an 80's throwback....here is the first patch I programmed on the Virus.

The intro/arpeggio from Duran Duran's "Save a Prayer". Complete with mod wheel controlled portamento on the outro. I think it sounds pretty close.

Pretty close!

[Kamurah]

Originally Posted by Ambience

Btw both of my examples was Omnisphere using their default oscillators, none of the sampled osc.
Just wanted to see if the virus really had a distinguishable sound. Apparently not lol

So wait...maybe I am misunderstanding here....


Are you saying that you do not have a Virus, and just made a couple of patches using Omnisphere to see if anyone here could spot immediately that it wasn't a Virus?

[zahush76]

Why? Is there such a thing as a recognizable/signature virus ti sound/tone/timbre? Can you listen to a track and instantly know a virus ti was used?

[Kamurah]

Originally Posted by zahush76

Why? Is there such a thing as a recognizable/signature virus ti sound/tone/timbre? Can you listen to a track and instantly know a virus ti was used?

I'm not sure if you are responding to me or the OP...but MY answer is NO...and that has been exactly my point in this thread. I do not think there is one specific "Virus" sound (even though I myself used that term earlier on..lol. In the TI at least things are more complex...maybe you can make an argument in the B or C versions). I think the synth has a pretty broad palette...and can sound anywhere from hard and digital to mellow and analog depending on how it is programmed.

However, I DO believe the architecture and setup of the synth engine itself tends to allow certain types of sound to be programmed easier than others (especially if you are using the TI plugin as your programming interface). With the inclusion of the Hypersaw, Unison, Sub OSC and detuning options...along with the plethora of available FX....the big wide sounds (the kind of sounds I personally associate to epic trance) can be realized in very short order.

If the OP posted this as a lark or something, I'm not sure what they were trying to accomplish. If I am mis-reading...please forgive.

[Yoozer]

Originally Posted by Ambience

Damn no one liked my sound? -_-

That's no dubstep, that's a 303 with a long decay time.

Originally Posted by zahush76

Why? Is there such a thing as a recognizable/signature virus ti sound/tone/timbre? Can you listen to a track and instantly know a virus ti was used?

If there is anything signature about the Virus, it's the filters. However, now that it's gained several new types, that signature-ishness may be gone again.

[zahush76]

Originally Posted by Kamurah

I'm not sure if you are responding to me or the OP...but MY answer is NO...and that has been exactly my point in this thread. I do not think there is one specific "Virus" sound (even though I myself used that term earlier on..lol. In the TI at least things are more complex...maybe you can make an argument in the B or C versions). I think the synth has a pretty broad palette...and can sound anywhere from hard and digital to mellow and analog depending on how it is programmed.

That's not what i meant, and it has nothing to do with a general "signiture" sound, or charachter.
The fact that the TI has a broad palette of sound (different osc, different filters, different synthesis methods) is beside the point. There are lots of other synths - hardware and software - with a palette just as broad. The Solaris, blofeld on the hardware side as examples, and massive, largo, omnisphere etc on the software side.
Yet, for example, waldorf synths (both soft and hard) has a very distinctive filter flavour, and you just know it's a waldorf.
So what i'm actually asking is wether you can "immidiately know it's a TI".

[recordbreaker]

I too just got a Virus Snow last week and absolutely love it! Its very inspirational. Surprised the DAC converter is really good too, bigger and cleaner sound than my Focusrite. A synth and interface, two for one gotta love that!

One thing I cant figure out though is how to scroll through the presets in VC without having to double click each one. I tried using the PC keyboard arrows but that doesn't work. Anyone know how to do it?

Also, using it on more than one track in Ableton, you just use the external instrument plugin and use audio tracks assigned to? Confusing.

Sorry for the newbie questions, just starting to learn this thing.

[Kamurah]

Originally Posted by zahush76

So what i'm actually asking is wether (sic) you can "immidiately (sic) know it's a TI".

I don't...but maybe after a year or two with it I will.

recordbreaker:
Preset selection works via PC keyboard on my setup....but am on a Mac and using VC as an AU in Logic.

Sorry, cannot help you with setup in Live...but I have seen several setup videos on Youtube.

[recordbreaker]

Originally Posted by Kamurah

I don't...but maybe after a year or two with it I will.

recordbreaker:
Preset selection works via PC keyboard on my setup....but am on a Mac and using VC as an AU in Logic.

Sorry, cannot help you with setup in Live...but I have seen several setup videos on Youtube.

Others also mentioned using the PC keyboard, dunno why mine isn't working. checking a few videos now

[Foxis]

First of all I want to state up front that I do not mean to troll or cause offense. This is a genuine question.

I have been going back into hardware lately and a couple of weeks back I was in my local store playing various synths. I had sort of set my mind on the Prophet 08 and I ended up buying one.

Anyway, during my testing of various synths I gave the Virus quite a bit of time as it has been quite well-regarded pretty much everywhere. However, I found it a bit uninteresting in much the same way as many soft synths - it sounded a bit too smooth and bland.

I am likely taking another trip into town soon and would like to revisit the Virus since I don't really subscribe to the "it's just a soft synth in a box", I do believe it can and does sound better. So the question to you owners is: What should I check out? What are your favorite examples or things about the synth which I should experiment with if I want to get the very best impression of it?

TIA!

[Calis007]

Well, I listened to your first sample and noticed the Omnisphere in it's name.
Owning both, Virus Ti2 and Omnisphere, I pondered about whether you mixed up files and I asked myself:
Can I do such a sound with Virus? Yes.
Can I do such a sound with Omnisphere? Yes.
So I came to the conclusion that your sample shows nothing typical for Virus and nothing typical for Omnisphere..
I'd say both synths are versatile enough to produce almost everything, it's just a matter of how easy it is - and at the moment i prefer to play with the 60+ real buttons/knobs of the Virus
Maybe when the weather gets worse, I'll pick up this thread again and try to post something easy with Virus and hard for Omnisphere and vice versa ..

@Foxis:
On of the biggest advantages with hardware is: You can grab 2 knobs and rotate them at the same time, and within 0.2 sec you can switch to 2 other knobs ..
For the rest, yes - it's just a soft synth in a box BUT: Access is around for a long time now and they know how to do it (how to do a soft synth AND how to put it into a box

[jaytranzmit]

I would say the Phaser is a giveaway to it being a Virus on some patches, in the same way you can spot certain filters on other synths.

[Synth Buddha]

Hm. Maybe I should get a Virus again, a not too expensive one. How much do you guys think I should pay for a used TI Snow?

[recordbreaker]

Originally Posted by Synth Buddha

Hm. Maybe I should get a Virus again, a not too expensive one. How much do you guys think I should pay for a used TI Snow?

I watched eBay for a while before buying and the Snow's usually go for somewhere between £450-600 depending on how old/used the unit is and whether or not purchased sound sets are included in the deal

[Ambience]

I did this test because i always here this 'virus is better, best synth ever yada yada yada'. And i was on the verge of buying a virus before i went with omni.

Many people swear by the virus and swear because its analog (well digital analog) its dope and dismiss everything else.

Just proves to show virus is just a notable name in the world of synths and that soft synths are there already.

Don't get me wrong I LOVE the look and physical feel of the virus, and could get one, but why spend 3k when omni is there?

Regarding the person who said if Virus has a signature 'sound', it does. The osc have no alasing, the filters are dope, and overall the virus has a darker/agressive/ more low end to middle lows compared to other synths, such as waldorf which is opposite.

Just saying, Zebra and Omni can sound and out do a virus. I dont know about a Prophet which is TRUE analog, but thats a whole different topic lol

[synthoid]

Originally Posted by Ambience

Don't get me wrong I LOVE the look and physical feel of the virus, and could get one, but why spend 3k when omni is there?

If you don't need a real, physical instrument, there's probably not so much reason to buy a Virus these days IMO. If you *do* need a real physical instrument, then it doesn't matter what Omnisphere sounds like.

-synthoid

[zahush76]

And there's Solaris. PC technology will eventually catch up with the needded cpu power, but as of now - what the solaris can do is yet to have a competitor both in the hardware and software world.

[kcearl]

Originally Posted by Synth Buddha

Hm. Maybe I should get a Virus again, a not too expensive one. How much do you guys think I should pay for a used TI Snow?

They go for around $800-900 on fleabay

[kcearl]

I dont give a shit what sounds like what....i have hardware and softsynths...analog and digital....i still end up using Massive and Sylenth more than anything else...i have 7 guitars, i nearly always play my tele...i buy them to enjoy and to play...and i like not weighing down my PCs cpu as well, thats why i use UAD cards


Why would anyone care what others use or prefer?


As for the omnisphere experiment im sure its a fine synth, but no one bit on your troll...note the comments on the real virus samples compared to the zero comments yours gathered

Whats next week? Post drum rack samples and pretend theyre maschine? Lol

[Ambience]

Originally Posted by kcearl

I dont give a shit what sounds like what....i have hardware and softsynths...analog and digital....i still end up using Massive and Sylenth more than anything else...i have 7 guitars, i nearly always play my tele...i buy them to enjoy and to play...and i like not weighing down my PCs cpu as well, thats why i use UAD cards


Why would anyone care what others use or prefer?


As for the omnisphere experiment im sure its a fine synth, but no one bit on your troll...note the comments on the real virus samples compared to the zero comments yours gathered

Whats next week? Post drum rack samples and pretend theyre maschine? Lol

You're the one spazzing on this forums buddy.

Chill out. It was a test. For a 'musician' you seem so uptight for no reason.

[Kamurah]

Originally Posted by Ambience

I did this test because i always here this 'virus is better, best synth ever yada yada yada'. And i was on the verge of buying a virus before i went with omni.

Many people swear by the virus and swear because its analog (well digital analog) its dope and dismiss everything else.

Just proves to show virus is just a notable name in the world of synths and that soft synths are there already.

Don't get me wrong I LOVE the look and physical feel of the virus, and could get one, but why spend 3k when omni is there?

Regarding the person who said if Virus has a signature 'sound', it does. The osc have no alasing, the filters are dope, and overall the virus has a darker/agressive/ more low end to middle lows compared to other synths, such as waldorf which is opposite.

Just saying, Zebra and Omni can sound and out do a virus. I dont know about a Prophet which is TRUE analog, but thats a whole different topic lol

I'll give you another aspect to consider. I am a software guy. I use soft synths and DAW's. I don't have a lot of outboard.

I absolutely LOVE my setup right now. I have an older generation Macbook Pro 2.4 Ghz Core 2 Duo. I replaced the hd with an SSD and added a second SSD in the Superdrive space.

It is ABSOLUTELY silent. It is completely stable. And for RECORDING duties it is fantastic due to the two things I just mentioned.

I bought the Virus because VSTs like Massive and Diva and Omnisphere eat my CPU for lunch. Love the sound....hate that I am having to look at my CPU for every track.

For a guy like me who doesn't need tons of hands on hardware, but wants the sound...the Virus is a perfect fit. I LIKE programming it on my computer screen. I'm better at programming it on my screen than on the box itself.


So for my needs on my setup. Virus TI was the way to go. So far no regrets.

[kcearl]

Originally Posted by Ambience

You're the one spazzing on this forums buddy.

Chill out. It was a test. For a 'musician' you seem so uptight for no reason.

spazzing?


yup that was spazzing



what are you, like, 15?

[Ambience]

Originally Posted by Kamurah

I'll give you another aspect to consider. I am a software guy. I use soft synths and DAW's. I don't have a lot of outboard.

I absolutely LOVE my setup right now. I have an older generation Macbook Pro 2.4 Ghz Core 2 Duo. I replaced the hd with an SSD and added a second SSD in the Superdrive space.

It is ABSOLUTELY silent. It is completely stable. And for RECORDING duties it is fantastic due to the two things I just mentioned.

I bought the Virus because VSTs like Massive and Diva and Omnisphere eat my CPU for lunch. Love the sound....hate that I am having to look at my CPU for every track.

For a guy like me who doesn't need tons of hands on hardware, but wants the sound...the Virus is a perfect fit. I LIKE programming it on my computer screen. I'm better at programming it on my screen than on the box itself.


So for my needs on my setup. Virus TI was the way to go. So far no regrets.

Your setup sounds like my soon to be set up in like two months. Lol
I went with omni since it can compete with all these synths, and I don't have to worry about someone trying to jack my virus snow in nyc lol i travel a lot so having outboard gear is a no no. I have countless sound modules, but always end up replacing those sounds with soft synths since i hate carrying racks to professional studios lol