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Old 22nd August 2012   #1
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Deadmau5 Synth Chords. Help me crack them!



Hey everyone!

In the last day I have tried recreating a portion of 'The Veldt' by deadmau5 as a synthesis exercise.

I'm having a problem though. My synth chords sound relatively close to deadmau5's chords (see example), however, when I try to build up the intensity of the chords by raising certain elements (sustain level, attack level, etc), they sound like shit compared to them.

My problem is that I can't seem to emulate the high end of these chords deadmau5 uses. I'm completely stumped... the high end of his chords are perfectly gritty, yet not offensive to the ears, while the mid range is wide and soothing. Also, they are highly mono-compatible. It almost seems as though the high end is more centered than the mid-range of the chords.

Does he layer on a different synth that is hipassed or something? I really can't figure it out.

I'm using Alchemy for this, I tried Massive but I can't even get close with that.

Can anyone offer some advice? If you want to hate on deadmau5, do it in another thread please.

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It never sounded to me like he was changing the envelope settings much on the Veldt... I'd have to listen again to be sure, but to me all I was hearing was some subtle filter sweeping..probably slow LFO or automation.
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Try a subtle amount of bit reduction to the high end?
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It never sounded to me like he was changing the envelope settings much on the Veldt... I'd have to listen again to be sure, but to me all I was hearing was some subtle filter sweeping..probably slow LFO or automation.
What I meant was when the synth chords build up and add on the high end. Like automated filter cutoff or something of that sort. It isn't included in the sample that I recreated. Go to 3:00 in the youtube video and you'll hear it.

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Try a subtle amount of bit reduction to the high end?
That doesn't seem to get me the sound I'm looking for. Good try though =] I'm surprised I didn't think of that.
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not sure, but it might be some hipassed white noise layered over the chords, at least that what it sounds like to me
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try adding another osc to your synth pitched up 1 octave at maybe 20-40% volume, this might help add a little high end sheen to your sound. If your trying to recreate the deadmau5 pluck sound I would use sylenth, you can get extremely close with that.
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not sure, but it might be some hipassed white noise layered over the chords, at least that what it sounds like to me
I actually tried that because that's what I figured it was, but unfortunately I couldn't get it to cooperate they way I wanted it to.

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try adding another osc to your synth pitched up 1 octave at maybe 20-40% volume, this might help add a little high end sheen to your sound. If your trying to recreate the deadmau5 pluck sound I would use sylenth, you can get extremely close with that.
I'll give the osc tuned up an octave a try, that's definitely worth a shot. I might give it a try on Sylenth but I don't own it, so I'd have to do it on the demo. The "thank you for trying this demo" repeating constantly drives me MAD though lol
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Well that's what filters do, if you're using a low pass filter it is letting the low notes pass through in other words cutting/dulling the highs. So as you turn the cutoff UP you are letting more and more high frequencies through. Anyways, definitely nothing fancy going on with that track.. the filter cutoff is moving around slowly and subtly as the track opens up.
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multiband processing?

I'd try it with a multiband distortion like Ohmicide. You can compress the top end, distort it slightly (or a lot), expand it... I'd try to mess around with it. So while the filter cutoff is rising or whatever, you are also compressing/saturating it independently from the low and mids.. you can also do stereo spreading with it if you need..
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I think you got it sounding pretty good... instead of just changing the envelopes you should open the filter up when you want to build the tension... it doesn't sound like you opened the filter at all..
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I can hear you are using too steep filter, he got it on like 12 db ? youre using 24 ?
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Have you considered cracking your own chords? just a thought
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You're welcome. I'm remixing The Veldt myself and this got me off to a great start. Sequence the midi and eq, delay, verb etc. sounds killer

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