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Old 27th August 2012   #241
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Which is why, if you read the full post, I said:



Korg's dabbling in this market is certainly noteworthy, but not enough to convince me we are going to see a modern incarnation of an MS20, Monopoly or Polysix anytime soon. Would certainly be cool, though...
I think the MicroKorg is brilliant. One of the most fun synths I've ever used.

Also, the Kaos pads are great for live performance.

I'd rather have stuff like this than another Monopoly or Polysix.
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But I wouldn't stop with their Mono series (which to me is actually at the bottom of Korg's product chain :P). The Kaoss products are simply awesome (KP3, Koassilator, etc.).
The Kaoss products are performance controllers, a different animal, although they are nice.

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Their VAs, though polerizing, are pretty good and the prices are just right (LOVE my R3 BTW);
I'll have to disagree with you on their VA products, as I don't find any of them particularly remarkable.

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Their Grooveboxes (the Electribes) are almost 10 years old, but their is great suspicion at the korg forums that a new one is brewing;
Yes, agree with you there.

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the Kronos is doing well, the SV-1 is a really cool keyboard... They're fine IMHO...
Eh, have to disagree with you there.

For me, much more interesting stuff is happening at the smaller companies I mentioned previously.

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I think the MicroKorg is brilliant. One of the most fun synths I've ever used.
Yeah, I mean its OK, I wouldn't call it "brilliant", but that's just me. I did find it a fun little synth, though.

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I'd rather have stuff like this than another Monopoly or Polysix.
Have to disagree. A modernized Monopoly or Polysix would be just the ticket for me.

In any case, the point I am trying to make here is that even though Korg caters a little bit more to the synth enthusiast market compared to Roland or Yamaha, it's still not enough to keep them in the conversation with Moog, DSI, Oberheim, SE and all the others who depend on the synth enthusiast market almost completely.
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Have to disagree. A modernized Monopoly or Polysix would be just the ticket for me.
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correction. she had SILVER slippers.
this was because the story (written by a guy called L. Frank Baum) was about the american people (subjects of the corporation founded in 1871) freeing themselves from a banker oligarchy (no kidding) that had hoarded all the gold and prohibited the use of silver as money. thus everyone besides them was ff-ed.
the story is therefore about Dorothy walking on silver slippers on the gold road, helped by several friends (the unions, etc. - called later a "populist movement") portrayed in a fashion satirical to the real players in that game.
Of course, later, Louis B. Mayer (founder of MGM), a subsidiairy/member of the very same banker oligarchy, in the famous movie changed the silver slippers to red, so this would permeate american culture (the excuse is it looked good in technicolor), and the people would forget what happened, and how they escaped enslavement by a hair, because of leaders like W.J. Bryan and coöperation to reach a common goal.
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I'll have to disagree with you on their VA products, as I don't find any of them particularly remarkable.[/B]
I disagree, certainly if you are talking about the 'big three'.

Korg did a variety of VA & modeling synths, Modeling: Original Oasis, Z1, Prophecy and VA which progressed & developed, ie MK/MS2000 - Radias - AL-1 (software form)

Yamaha were quite interesting too, AN1X and VL range were very under-rated.

Good old (can't do wrong) Roland of course just kept rehashing the old JP8000 engine, which in imho, was a very mediocre synth to start with.

...and of course, guess which one of all those people seem to want to call the classic <roll eyes>
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I disagree, certainly if you are talking about the 'big three'.

Korg did a variety of VA & modeling synths, Modeling: Original Oasis, Z1, Prophecy and VA which progressed & developed, ie MK/MS2000 - Radias - AL-1 (software form)

Yamaha were quite interesting too, AN1X and VL range were very under-rated.

Good old (can't do wrong) Roland of course just kept rehashing the old JP8000 engine, which in imho, was a very mediocre synth to start with.

...and of course, guess which one of all those people seem to want to call the classic <roll eyes>
and softsynth-wise they've been pretty busy too: Korg Legacy, I-Electribes, I-MS20, their recent dive into offering rack units for reason; I insist, of the big 3, they're the ones that are more "in touch" with synth sluts like us...
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I disagree, certainly if you are talking about the 'big three'.
I'm only referring to Korg in that post.

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Good old (can't do wrong) Roland of course just kept rehashing the old JP8000 engine, which in imho, was a very mediocre synth to start with.

...and of course, guess which one of all those people seem to want to call the classic <roll eyes>
Thanks, but that's pretty much exactly what I said about 5 pages ago...

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and softsynth-wise they've been pretty busy too: Korg Legacy, I-Electribes, I-MS20, their recent dive into offering rack units for reason; I insist, of the big 3, they're the ones that are more "in touch" with synth sluts like us...
Their VST classic reissues have been about the only thing from Korg I have purchased in the last 10 years (other than one of their nano-series controller for a specific job). I like them very much and they do get a fair amount of use in my work.
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I wish Roland would make a TR style drum machine again. Korg is ahead of them on this one. I can't stand the keypad selection of patterns from the Boss drum machines.

It should have easy to load samples and perhaps a VA based drum synth. Though I would end up loading it with 909 and 808 samples but much more as well.
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With only three days to go, I feel this thread has been lacking the kind of celebration countdown we have come to expect on such a monumental occasion

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A new analogue 303. Priced at around $600. That would be sweet
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Holy crap, that's a nice rig for band practice.
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If the plot gets any thicker we'll get stuck in the past

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I have done my studies now anyway. Seems to me that we will be looking at a Fantom V but that could be entirely wrong too. Perhaps they've shown an old cardboard box just for joking.
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Wait... I thought the big 3 were Moog, Oberheim, Sequential.
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Wait... I thought the big 3 were Moog, Oberheim, Sequential.
It was....in 1975.
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ooh new colour options, man if i was in a cheesy, tux-wearing lounge band i'd be all over this!
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Wait... I thought the big 3 were Moog, Oberheim, Sequential.
I can't think of any newer brands that have topped these three..!
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Wait... I thought the big 3 were Moog, Oberheim, Sequential.
To me, back in the day, those were the 3 three.

As I said before, back in the early 80s, when I was really soaking up my interest in synthesizers with alot of like minded people, starting bands, Jamming, really getting the buzz, I really don't remember much interest in Roland stuff.
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Wait... I thought the big 3 were Moog, Oberheim, Sequential.
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American big three: Moog, Oberheim, SCI
Japan big three: Yamaha, Roland, Korg
Soviet Union probably had a big three because they just copied whatever the US was doing, but made it slightly different.

Isn't there some saying about things coming in three?
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American big three: Moog, Oberheim, SCI
Japan big three: Yamaha, Roland, Korg
Soviet Union probably had a big three because they just copied whatever the US was doing, but made it slightly different.

Isn't there some saying about things coming in three?
Also let us not forget Italy. It had its big 3 + more

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A new analogue 303. Priced at around $600. That would be sweet
That niche's already been filled by the x0xb0x.

Merely a label saying "Roland" is not going to make it more authentic (or bring back the BA662). Think of what they tried last time - remember this? http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/mc09.php
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That niche's already been filled by the x0xb0x.

Merely a label saying "Roland" is not going to make it more authentic (or bring back the BA662). Think of what they tried last time - remember this? Roland MC-09 PhraseLab | Vintage Synth Explorer
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if Roland decided to make x0xb0x...err TB-303 again, in a short run. As a business, they should be looking at it like, we [Roland] made the TB-303 and now these x0xb0x clones seems to be selling decently and are cheap to make, so maybe we should make them too but package it in an exact TB-303-like enclosure. They could call it the TB-303 mkII or something. Or maybe they respect that the open community took it upon themselves to reproduce the TB-303...yeah right! Regardless, I wouldn't get one since I already have a x0xb0x. I have the 2VCO mod, plus the Gate on/off switch. Those two things really extend its sound capabilities.
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Well, the problem I see with that is that there are already so many clones available at a low price point that you'd basically have to have the entire production line optimized so hard that you produce it for $250 or something, and that's going to be very hard, even if you had all the design documents for the original.
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Well, while you are all discussing new 303s and stuff, Roland is releasing ads of a rack synth called Integra-7, which seems to be a kind of (preset?) Jupiter in a rack (not sure if editable), with 6000 presets, SuperNatural, MotionalSurround and all the SRX boards integrated.

Wait and see...

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