I'm sure something like this will do wonders for someone, but to me this is just another Roland snoozefest. It's neat, impressive stringed instrument emulations, some weak sauce analog sounds, whatever. It just feels like another jack of all trades workstation like they've been doing since the 90s. Why doesn't Roland want to innovate? Is it just not even remotely close the same company it once was? How can they be so disconnected from the culture surrounding electronic music? It's like they don't even care.
I'm sure something like this will do wonders for someone, but to me this is just another Roland snoozefest. It's neat, impressive stringed instrument emulations, some weak sauce analog sounds, whatever. It just feels like another jack of all trades workstation like they've been doing since the 90s. Why doesn't Roland want to innovate? Is it just not even remotely close the same company it once was? How can they be so disconnected from the culture surrounding electronic music? It's like they don't even care.
just spotted this....in the user manual...seeing as in the sonic state demo/review he said you had to manually load into the virtual slots on booting back up after you turned the integra7 off.
If you want the expansion sounds to be loaded automatically at start-up
You can have the INTEGRA-7 automatically load specified sound data into the EXPANSION Virtual Slots upon startup.
* With the factory settings, the sound data will be loaded.
1. Press the [MENU] button.
2. In the MENU screen, choose “SYSTEM” and press the [ENTER] button.
3. Select the desired sound data for Startup Exp Slot A–D.
4. Hold down the [SHIFT] button and press the [EDIT] button to save the settings.
It just feels like another jack of all trades workstation like they've been doing since the 90s. Why doesn't Roland want to innovate?
It's not a workstation at all (since a sequencer is a defining characteristic of a workstation).
Roland's main innovation at the moment is acoustic modeling (all the SuperNATURAL acoustic sounds). It may not be of interest to you, but it is innovative. A hardware VA synth with an iPad interface is also innovative (i.e. no one else has done it at all, much less in a rack module). Then add the surround sound processing, and throw in a set of legacy sounds for good measure. This is hardly a "me too" box.
I've tested the supersaws on JP-80 and V-synth. The V-synth's is audibly better. But JP-80 does have good filters. Its not a JP-8000 variant in my mind because I wouldn't use it for trance. Its more like the Fantom. Maybe they changed something though. You can call it VA, but its not the same as older roland VA. I wouldn't choose it as a replacement. Different filters, different supersaw.
It's not a workstation at all (since a sequencer is a defining characteristic of a workstation).
Roland's main innovation at the moment is acoustic modeling (all the SuperNATURAL acoustic sounds). It may not be of interest to you, but it is innovative. A hardware VA synth with an iPad interface is also innovative (i.e. no one else has done it at all, much less in a rack module). Then add the surround sound processing, and throw in a set of legacy sounds for good measure. This is hardly a "me too" box.
Fair enough. The acoustic stuff is actually pretty cool sounding. I'm sure this thing will get used like mad in sound design and scoring for all sorts of stuff. It looks like a workhorse, no doubt.
The iPad integration is neat too, albeit there's already plenty of apps out there to support browsing and programming synths. AFAIK though you're right about Roland being the first to make a specific app for supporting a given synth. I think that's pretty brilliant and I hope other companies pick up on that. I would LOVE to be able to program my Virus TI on the iPad with a proprietary TI plugin type app.
I'll also give you that it's not a "me too", but it's hardly a earth shaker, or even a signature statement to me. When is the last time Roland made a synth with a heritage as rich as the analogs of the 80s? JP-8000 was pretty cool. I just feel like they are trapped in the land of acoustic emulation. If that's where the money is, and that's what motivates them as a company, great! It's just a little disappointing to someone who thinks they still could draw more from the earlier decades and really make something remarkable.
Gaia was a good example of they need to stop doing. That this was "me too" as hell and sounded horrible alongside even midrange plugins, let alone the other VA offerings out there. Why aren't they innovating in the analog or even virtual analog domain? How about digital synthesis? I feel like Roland could probably nail this stuff if wanted to, but I don't think they have it in them, anymore.
Gaia was a good example of they need to stop doing. That this was "me too" as hell and sounded horrible alongside even midrange plugins, let alone the other VA offerings out there. Why aren't they innovating in the analog or even virtual analog domain? How about digital synthesis? I feel like Roland could probably nail this stuff if wanted to, but I don't think they have it in them, anymore.
me too?...please list all the hardware VA synths that came out in 2009-2010 that were choc a block FULL of hands on controls with NO menu diving at all?...not just 4 knobs and a grid edit to get annoyed with!
i'd say it sounds nice for some stuff and defo lacking for other stuff...it's far from "horrible" in my opinion for whatever that's worth! it doesn't suffer from that "vst plugin sound" that grates my ears after 10 mins.
each to their own but i like it...not earth shattering sounds like the minibrute but it does some nice sounds for sequences and pads and is great fun programming the patches unlike my blofeld!
I have as much fun as anyone else making fun of the new Roland, but I have to admit, this does sound intriguing...
As soon as I heard a demo of the Supernatural Flugelhorn, I *knew* Roland had something. And I just get more and more convinced all the time...
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Originally Posted by Reptil
enhanced behaviour modelling technology of acoustic instruments.
that's a mouthful. yet I'd like to hear it. it might actually be good (in a polished, Roland kind of way )
carry on
Mark my words-it's going to be *beyond* "good".
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Originally Posted by MusicFan
The iPad software and the handling of the INTEGRA-7 via iPad looks good:
Well, Roland had better include an editor for lap/desktops as well.
And WTF is this alliance between Apple and Roland( and others) anyway? I am NOT going to punch out $600 just so I can be "cool" like the rest of the lemmings.
Most people like to bitch a lot about hardware upgrades but, seemingly, they don't mind shelling out another 1/2 grand for the latest "toy".
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Originally Posted by Teknobeam
I think IPAD apps are temporary.. And still no substitute for a tactile knob ( or a myriad of knobs). It's sexy and novel....but also just slightly less of a PITA than a mouse. But hey....you might just feel like you are standing on the edge of it all.....Well...you aren't
Seconded......
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Originally Posted by asynchro_nous
It looks like the SRX patches are all presets with no editing possible.
Very handy for those times when you're supposed to be making music instead of jacking off, wouldn't you say?
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Originally Posted by djshire
Another disappointment from Roland, next!
You are sooooo wrong.....
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Originally Posted by Entrainer
Depends on street price...
if you can walk out the door with this and an iPad for $2k,
then we're talking.
I hope that's not Rolands plan because I really don't want an iphone with a gland condition.
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Originally Posted by CoolColJ
The synth section looks like the JP80 v2.0
No sync etc
How many true note poly?
If it's 128 or less partials = meh
You don't seem to read a lot for complaining a lot-
Try 256
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Originally Posted by ddash
Way to expensive at $2000 and above and those demos sound like S***.Typical roland demos.I think this was a great idea but way to expensive.I did like most of the SRX cards back in the day.
I wouldn't mind it at $999.
Well, at least I know you're not referring to "Before Dawn" in that little grouping of yours. It was spot on.
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You don't seem to read a lot for complaining a lot-
And WTF is this alliance between Apple and Roland( and others) anyway? I am NOT going to punch out $600 just so I can be "cool" like the rest of the lemmings.
Why $600? The $400 model is fine. Cheaper refurbed. (Or used.)
The funny thing is, people paid a lot more than that for the editors Roland used to make for their modules (i.e. PG-800, MPG-80).
And the fact is, millions of people already have iPads, so for an awful lot of Integra/Jupiter purchasers, the cost for the editor is zero, which is not a bad deal.
I hope there is a computer editor as well... but honestly, I think the touch screen is a better editor interface than keyboard and mouse, so I'm glad they're taking advantage of it.
Do 'these people' know anything we don't? Roland rumours
Today I took a trip to a Melbourne music store which caters predominantly for DJs, but also sells synthesizers. I was keen to have a play on the Minibrute, and they have a demo model on display. Lovely instrument, and it strangely reminds me of the SH 101.
So I'm noodling away, and one of the sales people comes over and starts chatting. He tells me how popular the Minibrute is (the 2nd lot due to arrive in a month are nearly all sold out - only 2 left), and that Arturia can't keep up with demand. I comment on the likeness of the Arturia to the 101, and he readily agrees. He then goes on to tell me that Roland were very surprised by the popularity of the Minibrute, and that they are going to re-release one of their older analogue instruments. He didn't know which one, and his knowledge of Roland stuff seemed a little hazy.
I'm skeptical about this, so I thought I'd ask other people's opinions:
Does this person know anything the general buyer on the street doesn't, or is he talking through his posterior? Working where he works, is he likely to be privy to this sort of information, or just a bullshi**er?
I'm pretty sure an exact replica of an older design is impossible, due to not having access to the same parts, and even the big players don't sell enough units to be able to start up a factory that remakes old components.
That doesn't mean they won't make a new analogue, inspired by some classic synth.
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i heard they're gonna re-release all of their big analog synths and give coupons to everyone here on gearslutz as a big thank you for opening their eyes. there will be even bigger discounts for people who shared all their mighty analog synth knowledge that they have gained from years of youtube videos.
i heard they're gonna re-release all of their big analog synths and give coupons to everyone here on gearslutz as a big thank you for opening their eyes. there will be even bigger discounts for people who shared all their mighty analog synth knowledge that they have gained from years of youtube videos.
It sounds to me like you work at Roland, reveal yourself!
i heard they're gonna re-release all of their big analog synths and give coupons to everyone here on gearslutz as a big thank you for opening their eyes. .
That's great news.
I checked my inbox and no coupons yet.
I'll take a fully loaded System 100, but only if they have installed midi and aftertouch.
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