Dont Like MPC2000

[OK USA]

Try detuning the oscillators.

[Illustrious]

The regular MPC2000 (not the XL) is probably the most run of the mill, blandest MPC ever made. The sound is not that great compared to the 60 and 3000, and the features are weak compared to the 4000, 2500/1000 and 5000.

[Jay-]

Im lacking inspiration on the classic and kind of pissed when the SCSI goes out on the ZIp/HDD.

I guess I could trade for a laptop and get a VST.

[eddie.machete]

Have you even spent more than a month on it? Grow up and put some time into it, you sound like a brat. You can do whatever you want on it. Load an octave of cello samples,cut up a string quartet sample, use it as a piano, an upright bass, its a sampler not a magic beatbox. Use it as a synth. Whatever, list is endless. There's a guy who used to plug a radio into his and record random songs from around the world and chop em up into tracks.

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[Jay-]

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Iv seen way better kit then the MPC classic.

I sound like a brat and you sound like a *CENSORED*

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by eddie.machete

its a sampler not a magic beatbox.

I kinda disagree, my mpc2000xl is absolutely a magic beat box!

[Jay-]

Thanks Doc, im looking to get this mpc out of first gear.
I wish I had my head around it, I can sample but it all comes out like ASS.
My ASR10 I can knock down walls and get a party jumping and moving.

I guess Ill watch yet more youtube videos.

Or perhaps I should upgrade from the 2000 to the 1000 or XL?????
I spend a large amount of time editing the effects on the ASR10 and my MPC has no effects installed.

[Doc Mixwell]

Originally Posted by Jay-

Thanks Doc, im looking to get this mpc out of first gear.
I wish I had my head around it, I can sample but it all comes out like ASS.
My ASR10 I can knock down walls and get a party jumping and moving.

I guess Ill watch yet more youtube videos.

Or perhaps I should upgrade from the 2000 to the 1000 or XL?????
I spend a large amount of time editing the effects on the ASR10 and my MPC has no effects installed.

You should be slamming stuff with a 2000 bro, I would just use it to trigger other MIDI sh$t, and forget having the audio in the box...I gave up on that years ago.

I trigger multi-track MIDI to keyboards, reason, Pro Tools VI instruments, external sound modules, and sequence it all together with the MPC, then dump the MIDI sequences one-by-one, into a DAW sequencer in real time. Put all the samples and sounds into a more versatile sampler, and trigger and sequence with a simpler sequencer.

Basically, you can do it however is most comfortable for you.

Just my way of working with it, but I can get patterns moving REALLY fast. Sure I could program everything with the DAW, but the MPC seems way more intuitive for a certain appeal and magic beat box sound and workflow.

[ExtraGarlic]

MPCs are the greatest hardware sequencers ever IMO, no need to upgrade your 2000. Are you having the MPC do the main sequencing? You should start off small with a high hat snare in mpc, and add elements from your other machines. Midi dat ish up, thats what all the midi jacks are for on back . And mpc isn't just for hip hop, u can make ambient country tango if you want, it's limitless.

[Yoozer]

Originally Posted by Jay-

I know its a classic, but lets put this on first gear, how can non hip-hop sounds work well?

Do you think it enables some kind of suckage filter when you load in anything remotely resembling hip hop?

It's just going to give you back what you put into it. If the sounds don't fit, try using the external outputs and EQ those separately.

[Goa-Dubs]

No comment......

[Reptil]

keep it classy gentlemen.

[atma]

i want a suckage filter vst

[bluegreengold]

Like it was mentioned, the original mpc2000 is not really a classic mpc. If you put some effort into it, of course it can be a useful tool, but it's definitely the last MPC I'd be interested in.

[living sounds]

Originally Posted by Jay-

I wish I had my head around it, I can sample but it all comes out like ASS.
My ASR10 I can knock down walls and get a party jumping and moving.

I'd really like to hear this. Can you do a comparison, put the same five samples or so in the MPC2000 and the ASR10 and program a similar beat?

[mike vee]

mpc2000 is just good for the sequencer, which has been overshadowed by the DAW for ten years now. sampler sounds like shit.

[robot gigante]

On the contrary, the little bit of grittiness it adds makes drums pop right through the mix. I can spot it in a mix vs. plain samples... the MPC sounds win, even if it is just a 2000.

If you can't get slamming tracks from it try harder. It's capable enough all right.

[Jay-]

yep, I have the Juno, the ASR10 and the MPC all banging with the midi.
Turns out I had some midi settings wrong but now I dont have to use a DAW.

I still suck but at least it works!!

[atma]

remember you can drive the input the of mpc so it's a bit hot when you're sampling into it. it adds some nice harmonics to your samples, used in moderation.

[verve92]

Originally Posted by Jay-

Thanks Doc, im looking to get this mpc out of first gear.
I wish I had my head around it, I can sample but it all comes out like ASS.
My ASR10 I can knock down walls and get a party jumping and moving.

I guess Ill watch yet more youtube videos.

Or perhaps I should upgrade from the 2000 to the 1000 or XL?????
I spend a large amount of time editing the effects on the ASR10 and my MPC has no effects installed.

Dunno why some people are being such dix, but here is my take.
Some gear it takes a while to gel. Like that girl you kinda sorta like but aren't sure. Time always tells.
Example: Monotribe. I hardly use it since getting my MEK and P08. Kind of like an acquaintance I lost touch with and eventually say hello once or twice.
Can it make the sounds you need is the deal. How well almost becomes irrelevant. There are always ways to improve an initial sound.
I am still learning how to use my Alpha Juno 1. Thing is with synth and similar gear very few people "get it" 100%
I remember Klaus Schulze saying of an old synth he had: I have had this thing for 30 years and tomorrow would not be able to make the exact same sound.
Is it you or the gear? That's the question!

[Jay-]

ALl working great now, thanks for tips.

Last question, I just sold my protools rig and am using a sound card with 2 inputs while my new rig is being ordered.

Can I loop the audio out from the analog synth into the ASR10 then ASR10 to MPC2000 then Audio out to my temp 2 channel interface?

[Goa-Dubs]

I made tons of stuff with the mpc2000.All day and all night.Bangin them out i was.Sampling my sax,drums ans perc,lee perry....anything.Sounded as good as all the rest(it played my samples right!!!).Raw and simple.Cant see why there should be a problem fitting it in somewhere......Its just a raw simple sample machine!!!!!!thats a good thing imo.Dont compare.Just fit it in.

[Goa-Dubs]

Originally Posted by Jay-

ALl working great now, thanks for tips.

Last question, I just sold my protools rig and am using a sound card with 2 inputs while my new rig is being ordered.

Can I loop the audio out from the analog synth into the ASR10 then ASR10 to MPC2000 then Audio out to my temp 2 channel interface?

Yes.In the mpc you have to be in record sample mode.

[Reptil]

there'll be latency (soundcard i/o)