Limiters on the Drum Buss

[Joelistics]

Anything that's there just to make the track louder has to go. If it's there because it adds something you like sonically it should stay. That's my policy..
But why don't you just talk to you ingenieer ?

[teknatronik]

I Have yet to use a limiter on a buss, but hear that damn near most popular dance producers do this... IM scared if I do it I might like it.

[wado1942]

Originally Posted by Joelistics

Anything that's there just to make the track louder has to go. If it's there because it adds something you like sonically it should stay. That's my policy..
But why don't you just talk to you ingenieer ?

+1 Don't try to make the mix loud, you're only making it harder to get a good master. However, a limiter on the drum buss is fine if you want to say, add sustain or remove the attack of the sound.

[OberHeim-Kenobi]

i usually insert a parallel limiter on the drum buss , i feel it's a destructive process but effective if you want to get a solid drum sound, leave the BD out and mix with the bass on another buss

[Simple2nes]

Originally Posted by OberHeim-Kenobi

i usually insert a parallel limiter on the drum buss , i feel it's a destructive process but effective if you want to get a solid drum sound, leave the BD out and mix with the bass on another buss

excellent reply . yeahh i think i will stick to parallel compression for the Drum Buss for now .

[Scott003]

Originally Posted by OberHeim-Kenobi

i usually insert a parallel limiter on the drum buss , i feel it's a destructive process but effective if you want to get a solid drum sound, leave the BD out and mix with the bass on another buss

+1 make it fuller, not louder, let the ME do that

[teebaum]

try the slate fg-x! not my favorite one on the mix , but creative usable on the drumbuss!

[btfnk]

I do it rarely but sometimes. As stated above, don't do it for the sake of loudness. Treat the limiter like a compressor. It will flatten out the transients and bring out the sustain.

Just don't do it too much or you will end up with the complete opposite of what you want and it'll be lifeless and squashed with no pump. Remember that the hard hitting sound you're thinking of is actually a product of the dynamics of the track so getting rid of them to make it louder actually does the opposite of what you want.

[Scott003]

Originally Posted by btfnk

I do it rarely but sometimes. As stated above, don't do it for the sake of loudness. Treat the limiter like a compressor. It will flatten out the transients and bring out the sustain.

Just don't do it too much or you will end up with the complete opposite of what you want and it'll be lifeless and squashed with no pump. Remember that the hard hitting sound you're thinking of is actually a product of the dynamics of the track so getting rid of them to make it louder actually does the opposite of what you want.

+1 sometimes ( when I want more aggressiveness) ill use a "1176" plug, mash the buttons, and throw it in parallel

[Greg B]

Originally Posted by Scott003

+1 sometimes ( when I want more aggressiveness) ill use a "1176" plug, mash the buttons, and throw it in parallel

I've been doing exactly that for years. Works well on busses and full mixes. Even better if you do it with good hardware, but I've used the UAD-2 1176N plug a lot for parallel compression. Although the compressed parallel bus usually needs to be turned down enough to feel natural. Just a matter of finding that sweet spot, but a great way to do "bottom-up" compression instead of "top-down".

[offki]

I've done it a few times. If you break the song into proper submixes you will get a louder and more dynamic mix because each part is limited more specifically (or not at all) and therefore you're going to get more control and then should need little if not nothing at mastering.