I really feel like psytrance is the next big thing. Ive noticed it getting popular around where I am (were people barely listened to edm a year or two ago).
The only thing is its becoming stale, and to be honest anytime its about to go popular it just doesnt for some reason. I like Infected Mushrooms stuff, but its not really Psy anymore and I think that kind of keeps it from getting big. If you look at the beatport top10 for psytrance it doesnt even sound like psytrance more like progressive house with some psy sounds. I have been trying to innovate in the genre, but who knows.
Personally I think its the only genre that hasnt been burnt out in the mainstream, granted I am only 20 so if it ever did get hugely popular at sometime please correct me?
I could also see industrial coming back. At a recent rave in brooklyn I noticed alot of "industrial" "cyberpunk" kids so who knows.
I really feel like psytrance is the next big thing. Ive noticed it getting popular around where I am (were people barely listened to edm a year or two ago).
The only thing is its becoming stale, and to be honest anytime its about to go popular it just doesnt for some reason. I like Infected Mushrooms stuff, but its not really Psy anymore and I think that kind of keeps it from getting big. If you look at the beatport top10 for psytrance it doesnt even sound like psytrance more like progressive house with some psy sounds. I have been trying to innovate in the genre, but who knows.
Personally I think its the only genre that hasnt been burnt out in the mainstream, granted I am only 20 so if it ever did get hugely popular at sometime please correct me?
I could also see industrial coming back. At a recent rave in brooklyn I noticed alot of "industrial" "cyberpunk" kids so who knows.
If Psy gets popular, it won't get popular with the majority of psytrance fans. I always hear people in the psytrance community saying that they are bored with the Israeli full-on stuff and even I think it's getting old and tired now. The new Goa stuff sounds far too polished and too much like Astral Projection which is also common complaint I hear on discogs. Darkpsy and Forest psy have their own small fan groups but both genres are relatively new and will never ever hit the mainstream because they are far too radio-unfriendly.
As for all the experimental variants of psy and progressive...those have been popular for a little while, but I wouldn't really say they are anything to do with psytrance, they sound far too much like club music and the average end-listener can't tell the difference between psy-progressive and progressive trance.
Industrial kids are always at those raves, we don't get them here in the UK because it's 2 very different scenes, but I know they are constantly at raves over there and have been since the (almost) beginning of the US rave scene when they were known as 'club kids' in the mid-late 1990s. I used to be an avid fan of industrial/EBM but I eventually got bored when the artists stopped performing and most shows/concerts were comprised of 2 guys and a macbook (This was about 3 years before Skrillex etc. did the same in EDM). Since then industrial/cyber/EBM/etc. has merged with the electro side of EDM and nothing fresh has come out of that hole, I do check around regularly but nothing has really moved forward since 2006ish.
This is pretty much why I don't think anything in electronic music will be the next 'big thing'. I've kept my ear to the ground for as long as I've been interested in Electronic Music and I've watched every genre run it's course and devolve into just churning out what has already been done before en mass, even from the perspective of the end-user. I'll be very interested to know what comes next but whatever it is it will have to be vastly different from everything we've heard already.
If Psy gets popular, it won't get popular with the majority of psytrance fans. I always hear people in the psytrance community saying that they are bored with the Israeli full-on stuff and even I think it's getting old and tired now. The new Goa stuff sounds far too polished and too much like Astral Projection which is also common complaint I hear on discogs. Darkpsy and Forest psy have their own small fan groups but both genres are relatively new and will never ever hit the mainstream because they are far too radio-unfriendly.
As for all the experimental variants of psy and progressive...those have been popular for a little while, but I wouldn't really say they are anything to do with psytrance, they sound far too much like club music and the average end-listener can't tell the difference between psy-progressive and progressive trance.
Industrial kids are always at those raves, we don't get them here in the UK because it's 2 very different scenes, but I know they are constantly at raves over there and have been since the (almost) beginning of the US rave scene when they were known as 'club kids' in the mid-late 1990s. I used to be an avid fan of industrial/EBM but I eventually got bored when the artists stopped performing and most shows/concerts were comprised of 2 guys and a macbook (This was about 3 years before Skrillex etc. did the same in EDM). Since then industrial/cyber/EBM/etc. has merged with the electro side of EDM and nothing fresh has come out of that hole, I do check around regularly but nothing has really moved forward since 2006ish.
This is pretty much why I don't think anything in electronic music will be the next 'big thing'. I've kept my ear to the ground for as long as I've been interested in Electronic Music and I've watched every genre run it's course and devolve into just churning out what has already been done before en mass, even from the perspective of the end-user. I'll be very interested to know what comes next but whatever it is it will have to be vastly different from everything we've heard already.
I agree. Although there is still alot of good fullon, its just people are either to afraid to combine more trancier elements, or they combine to much trancier elements, or they make it overly psyish with the same generic sh101 or virus lead sound etc etc. I agree that forest and dark/twilight and psycore could never go mainstream. Too weird, then again people liked dubstep because it was "weird and different" as well. However, I think with more of a live act it could become popular. I am trying to implement my bass playing into my tracks, and I would def snag a drummer and guitarist if I ever played live.
I agree. Although there is still alot of good fullon, its just people are either to afraid to combine more trancier elements, or they combine to much trancier elements, or they make it overly psyish with the same generic sh101 or virus lead sound etc etc. I agree that forest and dark/twilight and psycore could never go mainstream. Too weird, then again people liked dubstep because it was "weird and different" as well. However, I think with more of a live act it could become popular. I am trying to implement my bass playing into my tracks, and I would def snag a drummer and guitarist if I ever played live.
EDM is pretty stale in general atm though.
Yeah, there's always a few full-on tracks that catch me off guard and stand out from the rest...in fact psy is probably the only genre that has modern music I enjoy. I was going to mention psycore, it seemed like Psykovsky was going to get a little bit of popularity but I think that fizzled out.
If I was to make psytrance new and fresh the first thing I would do is change the kick and bass totally as I think that's become such an old hat now that it really needs to move on. Good for you for adding instruments though, I think EDM definitely needs far more people who can actually play stuff. It's great that we can make music at the click of a button but it isn't making the next generation of musicians any better at actually making something with soul and substance. I've got plans to incorporate various instruments into my own electronic music but it's tricky to get the balance right without either being just another band that plays electronic influenced music or a producer that just uses instruments for samples and carries on down the formulaic EDM road.
I dont think anything is going to be the next big thing but as far as being something that will start to be played in clubs heaps almost as much as dubstep or posssibly take its place in a lesser way, its probably trap.
Yeah, there's always a few full-on tracks that catch me off guard and stand out from the rest...in fact psy is probably the only genre that has modern music I enjoy. I was going to mention psycore, it seemed like Psykovsky was going to get a little bit of popularity but I think that fizzled out.
If I was to make psytrance new and fresh the first thing I would do is change the kick and bass totally as I think that's become such an old hat now that it really needs to move on. Good for you for adding instruments though, I think EDM definitely needs far more people who can actually play stuff. It's great that we can make music at the click of a button but it isn't making the next generation of musicians any better at actually making something with soul and substance. I've got plans to incorporate various instruments into my own electronic music but it's tricky to get the balance right without either being just another band that plays electronic influenced music or a producer that just uses instruments for samples and carries on down the formulaic EDM road.
Yea I try to stray away from the laser kick. IT is effing cool sounding though. I think it really helps accent the rolling bassline. Yea I am tryin 145 Bpm Slap Bass its pretty uhh wack especially since i havent practiced. Psycore is awesome haha CinderVOMIT makes some ridiculous tracks. SumioSaundi is also very good and creative, this album has a track called multytabs that has such a funky bassline its alot of fun haha Mindex – Cats On Air - Free Download at Ektoplazm - Free Music Portal and Psytrance Netlabel
Im mid forties and i dont think ive ever heard a proper psy trance/goa trance ectect tune on the radio.At least official stations and ive listened to a fair few.So no glad to say its unlikely to become the next big thing altho its built on the simple idea of electro/high energy pop music.The real artists of this genre do it for the kicks.Sell outs in every genre tho.Look at drum and bass and dubstep and commercial house/trance/techno ect
I dig some Trap sh!t, I also dig some Dubstep, but if you have good taste, 95% off all music sucks. It doesn't seem like the genre matters that much too me.
Ugh. Hype is so grotesque, especially for something so uninnovative and not good sounding. Who are the trendriding ballriders who forget any idea of personal identity in order to sound like everybody else faster than everybody else? Super super weird.
Ugh. Hype is so grotesque, especially for something so uninnovative and not good sounding. Who are the trendriding ballriders who forget any idea of personal identity in order to sound like everybody else faster than everybody else? Super super weird.
When I started noticing music getting bad I noticed that there wasn't just an inclination to churn out tracks but aliases, labels and personas were getting churned out too. Now we're moving on to genres and 'next big thing's.
Dubstep was a big thing! Let's quickly re-hash something and make a new big thing!! I'll come up with a name and start making soundcloud groups and facebook pages, you write up a pretentious wikipedia entry, get a hashtag trending on twitter and create some artist pseudonyms so it seems more popular than it actually is. The music? Oh we'll handle that later, we can just speed up electro house by a couple of BPM and take the vocals out or something. It doesn't matter, we're bound to get something original if we just mess around in Ableton for a few hours.
Some of you in this thread sound like sad old men. Sorry to say. Hope I never sart hating new iterations of dance music. I'm 30 and go see current producers like Zedd, Aoki, Skrillex, Justice, TEED, Noisia, random dubstep , hardcore, by trance, retro, deep house, etc type djs with my friend who is 47, and we have an amazing time.
If youre starting to describe new music as "noise" u sound like your parents talking about led zeppelin and you sound closed minded.
Only unacceptable thing in dance is Tiesto. Everything else is fun as hell.
Yeah, I'm smack "in between" those two age brackets you mentioned and hate reading comments (on Y-T especially) where people criticize todays EDM, often comparing it to 90's EDM. They are obviously inherently "stuck" in the 90's. It IS sad! IMO, they aren't true EDM fans, they're only fans of 90's. Some of the greatest EDM tracks ever, were created in the 90's but there is also PLENTY of good EDM being produced today.
HOWEVER, to classify Tiesto as "unacceptable" is really kinda stupendous in its own right. Why is when a "personality" reaches mega-stardom, he/she suddenly becomes a villain? I don't listen to much of Tiesto's music, but name someone else who's done MORE for EDM globally? Maybe Pete Tong; MAYBE! People often say "he's a sell out" as well. How so? He's ALWAYS doing something EDM related, whether it be new, different, etc... The fact that he's STILL producing clearly demonstrates his passion for EDM, and for that reason alone, he deserves @ least some respect. It can't be about $$$ because if it were, he would have retired MANY yrs ago, purchased an island off the pacific coast and would be spending his day's sipping colada's on his own private beach. So why does he continue at the rate he does? Because he actually loves it. That's FAR more than one can say for a vast number of "other" personalities on the EDM scene today.
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Where? Go and show us plenty of good 'EDM' from this year.
Do you mean "Electronic Dance Music", or electronic music in general? 'Cause, yeah, I don't ever hear much EDM that is very good at all or that I want to listen to long term (or any term). However, there's quite a bit of really good electronic music being made all the time... it's just not necessarily "dance" music. Nor is any of it usually found on Beatport.
And if by "dance" music, anyone means electronic music with a four on the floor beat... THAT is House, I don't care what other sub categories you wanna label it with... and IMO, it can crawl over in a corner and die. Anymore, you have to be extremely great artistically... subtle, & detailed... to be able to make electronic music with a four on the floor beat that DOESN'T sound immediately monotoneous, annoying, and amateur.
And that is the majority of electronic "hobby" music that's posted all over the internet constantly, and the majority of it is bad... in a monotoneous and annoying kind of way.
And if by "dance" music, anyone means electronic music with a four on the floor beat... THAT is House, I don't care what other sub categories you wanna label it with...
Do you mean "Electronic Dance Music", or electronic music in general? 'Cause, yeah, I don't ever hear much EDM that is very good at all or that I want to listen to long term (or any term). However, there's quite a bit of really good electronic music being made all the time... it's just not necessarily "dance" music. Nor is any of it usually found on Beatport.
And if by "dance" music, anyone means electronic music with a four on the floor beat... THAT is House, I don't care what other sub categories you wanna label it with... and IMO, it can crawl over in a corner and die. Anymore, you have to be extremely great artistically... subtle, & detailed... to be able to make electronic music with a four on the floor beat that DOESN'T sound immediately monotoneous, annoying, and amateur.
And that is the majority of electronic "hobby" music that's posted all over the internet constantly, and the majority of it is bad... in a monotoneous and annoying kind of way.
I'm talking about EDM, I'm sure the Boards of Canada/Aphex Twin/etc. electronic music is no doubt still doing well. But EDM...not a chance, people seem to think that if you don't like modern EDM you're obviously not looking correctly but I can safely say that I keep my ear closer to the ground than many of these bandwagon jumpers and I think a lot of what's coming out now is appalling.
The fact we have all this new technology, all this free flowing information, much more money in EDM than ever before, more fans, more distribution methods, much more music and they can't even make something as GOOD as 80s/90s 'EDM'. Wise up people, you should be doing BETTER...not equal or worse. I'm the prime age for enjoying this new music and even I think it's ****ing crap compared to the majority of stuff I wasn't even alive to hear. It's annoying to be told 'You're just a jaded old man, stop living in the past!!!'. Newsflash: I was still in my Dad's bollocks back in 'the past'. This isn't about nostalgia or being jaded, it's a matter of good music. I've got my whole life ahead of me and I don't want the soundtrack to be shitty, so start making music instead of excuses. Thanks.
good is very subjective, but for me it was enough to renew my faith in the genre 'EDM'! There is more but I can't remember :(
I have been trying to find com truise's album but apparently cd's are dead these days? oh well...one day brah! not paying $40 to download it from beatport tho
Where? Go and show us plenty of good 'EDM' from this year.
What do you mean by EDM in this context? Just electrohouse and dubstep, or any electronic music that is danceable?
I got no idea about good electrohouse or dubstep, but I've bought plenty of good records made this year. Maybe not groundbreaking but good stuff nevertheless.
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What a stupid genre name. lol
its pretty uhh wack especially since i havent practiced. Psycore is awesome haha CinderVOMIT makes some ridiculous tracks. SumioSaundi is also very good and creative, this album has a track called multytabs that has such a funky bassline its alot of fun haha 
