I know there are many that do essentially the same thing, but on Serban Ghenea's pop records he frequently uses a bitcrusher style effect that results in an amazingly pleasing "magic frequency" kind of thing that is almost metallic yet takes you away instantly. I've used many bitcrushers, but they all sound much more normal and much less sweet. Ironically, I'm not looking for "dirty" or "grimey" at all here! Does anyone have any recommendations for how to get this (other than talent :P)?
toneboosters makes a free one called TimeMachine, which to my ears is the most pleasant of any decimator i've ever heard, and i'm really picky about that effect.
toneboosters makes a free one called TimeMachine, which to my ears is the most pleasant of any decimator i've ever heard, and i'm really picky about that effect.
completely forgot about that one, thanks for reminding me.
sorry for not posting examples earlier, thanks for the feedback so far!
Songs:
Flo Rida - Good Feeling @ the beginning (guitar part)
One Direction - One Thing @ 19 seconds and throughout
Katy Perry - Wide awake @ the beginning (synth part)
Katy Perry - Part of Me @ the beginning on the 1+3 kick drum
...and many more, but I trust that should be enough! "if ya don't know, now ya know... [expletive deleted]"
Suffice to say, he uses it all the time and I think a big part of his "magic" is what this frequency adds. Have I said too much?
sorry for not posting examples earlier, thanks for the feedback so far!
Songs:
Flo Rida - Good Feeling @ the beginning (guitar part)
One Direction - One Thing @ 19 seconds and throughout
Katy Perry - Wide awake @ the beginning (synth part)
Katy Perry - Part of Me @ the beginning on the 1+3 kick drum
...and many more, but I trust that should be enough! "if ya don't know, now ya know... [expletive deleted]"
Suffice to say, he uses it all the time and I think a big part of his "magic" is what this frequency adds. Have I said too much?
Wow, current pop music sure is crappy (just had to get that out ;-)).
Now, on the Katy Perry song (kickdrum) it sounds like the typical EMU SP12(00)/EMAX etc. transpose, you might try the NI emulation without hardware.
Otherwise, no idea. I personally like the ancient vcs-reducer2 plugin for Windows and the Airwindows bitcrusher on a Mac. But it might actually just be Logic's internal bitcrusher, and was probably added in the production stage, not by the mixer.
Why no mention of biscuit?
With its built in super creamy LPF, it is undoubtedly the sweetest and imho most feature packed.
My only gripe = no LFO on sample rate
Now, on the Katy Perry song (kickdrum) it sounds like the typical EMU SP12(00)/EMAX etc. transpose, you might try the NI emulation without hardware.
As a reply to original question, I never thought I'd need one or even used one before I got D16 Decimort. It has presets for "classic boxes" like the above mentioned SP-1200 and MPC60, EPS etc. I don't know if it sounds like the real thing, but it does sound damn good.
D16 Group is by far one of my favorite software producers.
As a reply to original question, I never thought I'd need one or even used one before I got D16 Decimort. It has presets for "classic boxes" like the above mentioned SP-1200 and MPC60, EPS etc. I don't know if it sounds like the real thing, but it does sound damn good.
D16 Group is by far one of my favorite software producers.
It doesn't sound anything like the real thing, I've made the comparison. The NI "emulation" is closer to the digital side of the effect, but won't replace the real thing either. And for bitcrushing duties in the box I prefer the aforementioned plugins.
Have the Malgorithm and have used the Geiger counter, both are great and offer a lot more than Bitcrusher.
+1 way more.
thing I like about the Geiger is that it can do "subtle" as well.
getting one or the other based on sound was a toss-up, but I like the wavetables of the Geiger.
It's been mentioned in several articles that Serban Ghenea would use the Digidesign Lo-Fi plugin for the bitcrushing effect. I'm not sure if that's all he's been using though. It does work great in a mix, I don't use it much now but in the past have used it on probably hundreds of mixes. Sometimes those ancient plugins were just as good as the new stuff, I have a soft spot for the old Comp II, which didn't even try to sound clean, crunchy crunchy, maybe better in context than the muffly new stuff. It's weird, the more some plugins try to to sound analog or get rid of artifacts the less I like the overall sound, digital crunch, it's going to happen anyway, why try to hide it.
I agree about digital plugins needing to just be digital sometimes, it does seem like we like those artefacts nowadays, guess we're just one step closer to the day when we say: "all these modern records sound so analoguey and dull, I miss the good old days back when *real* records were made with simple plugins and none of these crazy modelling things we got goin on now"
The Decimort , while it doesn't sound like the boxes it "emulates" at all IMHO, is pretty nice. And + 1 for the WMD Geiger Counter module, a *very* electric little monster :-)
The Katy Perry & Flo Rida songs are produced by Dr. Luke and from what I've noticed by studying his music is he uses a lot of the bit crush sound...however Serban does mix like all of his records lol so who knows
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