Oh wow, you're right. We should always judge artists strictly by how much gear they have. That should be the only reason to like them. I agree.
That was clearly not his point.
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On a separate note and unrelated to this thread...you seriously want to have a mass murderer as your name and avatar? Is that some sort of nihilistic hipster smug statement that is supposed to be cool or something? I am hardly Mr PC but that is a bit much.
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It is nice to see that the general consensus is to appreciate the studio being built regardless of what you might think of his music. Certainly a way more positive use of money than clubbing it up with an entourage of leeches.
I post becuase y'all want to know what he makes with this gear....this is made with a Moog and epic verb/dely/filter work. great production quality
sadly the youtube ver is shit quality compared the the WAV file.
(no sub bass on the youtube track)
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If you look on Deadmau5's live feed you can see he has a keyboard controller behind him with an absolutely massive touch screen to his right hand side that he can use. Very interesting stuff! That studio would get me divorced
That part in the middle, where it exploded into the best chorus progression I've ever heard... How does he do it? I mean what music schools do you have to go to to achieve such thought provoking and intense music?
wow that's the best progression you've ever heard?
I don't mind his music. Not my fave, but whatever. I like it better than a great deal of music out there.
My only thing is that, combined with how much touring and work he does, there's no way he can really sink his teeth into all that gear, especially like the 200e system.
Cool to own it and slut out, but I know I would never be able to do proper woodshedding in that environment and really get to know my tools.
Maybe he just bought all that stuff because it's what he loves? You do realize there isn't a commercial motive behind every purchase?
I'm sure he's got the love for it. But it's gotta have a purpose too. And to say that purpose is just edm is crazy.
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Oh... I'd definitely call that a rig.... That's a mega synth lab. The term "sound design" can be ambiguous. To me sound design is everything from crickets to warped reality. I know because I spent about 8 years making a living doing it. Scoring a film isn't about a wall of discrete modulars.. But that isn't to say someone scoring a film wouldn't create a sound or two on that wall. but in reality...that would be the exception. The term "sound design" has taken on another meaning... and that involves the manipulation of synth sounds, and also involves effects and processing of other types. I think this is great. It means that the furthering of electronic music is alive and well. Don't get stuck on a genre...it's much larger.
There's plenty of synths and electronic stuff in film scores though.
Obviously a lot of it is orchestral.
But I'm saying- He just started using Cubase, which is sort of the defacto standard of film scoring daw's. Plus, look at how that room is designed!
Yeah you CAN spend money on that because you love what you do. But most likely your buying it with a true purpose in mind and that purpose is surely not just edm. What else would you use all that stuff for?
But who knows.. It's just a hunch.
Props to you for doing that type of stuff (film scoring and sound design). It's definitley something I want to get involved in. I'm trying to figure out where to start but I guess I'm just gonna dive right into it and learn along the way!
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I see this thinking and rationalization used a lot here and frankly... I don't get it.
We re "supposed" to be artists, right? Creative with a drive to be original, right?
So, if "most people" are doing something, isn't that a good reason do NOT to that very same thing?
Create your own sound or at least separate yourself from the pack, if even only a little.
But hey, maybe that's just me.
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I agree with most of what your saying.
But IMO, thinking is the part that makes people original. The tools, not so much.
If you look on Deadmau5's live feed you can see he has a keyboard controller behind him with an absolutely massive touch screen to his right hand side that he can use.
That's his Virus TI which is what he typically uses as a controller kbd.
I tuned into his live feed. Wow.. that touch screen is massive! Cool what he's doing with it for that close encounters track. Shit like that is creative & interesting. He's working out programming the touch screen and mappings for the live show.
Looks like he's going to be streaming lots working on his set for the Veld festival next week. deadmau5 live
I agree with most of what your saying.
But IMO, thinking is the part that makes people original. The tools, not so much.
I would certainly hope that's the price of entry and almost amazing it even needs to be said... but you're right on another point too, people are buying gear and expect more and more of the "music" to be done for them...
All part of the "givemenow 'cause I'm entitled but I don't want to put in any actual effort" syndrome... Oh, he does it that way, I will too. Everyone does it, so that's what I want! (Ugh)
I would certainly hope that's the price of entry and almost amazing it even needs to be said... but you're right on another point too, people are buying gear and expect more and more of the "music" to be done for them...
All part of the "givemenow 'cause I'm entitled but I don't want to put in any actual effort" syndrome... Oh, he does it that way, I will too. Everyone does it, so that's what I want! (Ugh)
Yes...I see this happening sometimes. Packaged loops for the flavor of the day. None of that will do much other than be a fantasy. It won't turn you into a composer. But well... that term has also become subjective. Less is often more. But also, many things of inspiration have been sparked by a sound or a serendipitous combination of random tracks. There will never be a magic bullet shortcut with music. Anything that is good will be the product of talent mixed with a varying degree of hard work. You can't buy that.. It will never be for sale. Gear is great...I probably have way too much...but I love it all. However, none of it guarantees an artistic yield. That's where you enter.
Loved the video! I have to admit I was hesitant to come to this thread, seeing that it had "Deadmau5" in the title and it was already 8 pages long, thinking I was going to walk into a hate fest. Surprised to see it just consisted of a few people saying, "well, if I had the money..." and "I don't like his music, but..." as well as trying to find something wrong with the studio lol.
Dead mouse. A forum he registered on (can't remember) had a limited username slot, so mouse became mau5 (maus) to be funny. It was homage to the dead mouse he found in his old production rig.
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Why would you waste your energy with negativity over something so trivial. Hes very successful doing something he loves. I for one am jealous and inspired equally. I wish everyone could be as successful doing something they love. Maybe they wouldn't walk around hating everything and wasting their time. I like the fact he is business savvy and is receiving what is his rather than a label or publisher. That's bypassing the capitalist agenda of the industry and inheriting the surplus value of his labour instead of becoming a commoditized unit shifter who has to sell x before he receives y, the model that kills creative process, when x is your bread and butter.
Why would you waste your energy with negativity over something so trivial.
exactly. generating negative energy doesn't result in better music, or a more fulfilling life.
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Hes very successful doing something he loves.
Yes.
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I for one am jealous and inspired equally.
I'm not, my studio's WAY cooler
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I wish everyone could be as successful doing something they love. Maybe they wouldn't walk around hating everything and wasting their time.
violà, nailed it.
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I like the fact he is business savvy and is receiving what is his rather than a label or publisher. That's bypassing the capitalist agenda of the industry and inheriting the surplus value of his labour instead of becoming a commoditized unit shifter who has to sell x before he receives y, the model that kills creative process, when x is your bread and butter.
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Of this I AM a little jealous. *looks at pile of unpaid bills in the corner* About being a successful business man and artist at the same time I mean. It's a very hard thing to combine.) Most likely he has a manager and secretary taking care of the business end though...
But there's two "caveats".
He's admitted to "sell out" a few times, and he HAS to stick to his "model" of music, otherwise his fans would not understand/recognise it, and run away. Or even start hating him for not delivering more of the same. That's the trap of fame in this consumer grid. I think the guy is intelligent enough to understand this, and has enough pleasure working within this model.
He HAS to re-invent his music/business model though, at some point, and sell it to the gatekeepers of consumer music, otherwise they'll dump him.
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Oh yeah.. one other thing. I see the "net worth" list posted. IMO it's degrading and outright wrong to value human beings (as commodities) in money.
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Anyway... Deadmau5 is an interesting character for sure. And he built a beautiful studio. He's got taste in gear, obviously.
Maybe he'll grow, spiritually and also musically. Those two go hand in hand mostly.
I wonder what converters he got? Anyone know?
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Why would you waste your energy with negativity over something so trivial. Hes very successful doing something he loves. I for one am jealous and inspired equally. I wish everyone could be as successful doing something they love. Maybe they wouldn't walk around hating everything and wasting their time. I like the fact he is business savvy and is receiving what is his rather than a label or publisher. That's bypassing the capitalist agenda of the industry and inheriting the surplus value of his labour instead of becoming a commoditized unit shifter who has to sell x before he receives y, the model that kills creative process, when x is your bread and butter.
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A lot of the more popular artists get a lot of hate on this forum, like Justice and Skrillex for example. Fight the urge to try and fix them...for they are sad...sad helpless creatures, who just need a hug. Just pet them on the head and reassure them that everything will be okay
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6 SSL Xpatch units in there for routing. Those Vermona Perfourmers are intriguing.
He's got a Weiss DS1 up front with him as part of his mastering chain.
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as for the moral thing.. well..
I end up on the odd bender once in a while, yet I still VERY MUCH feel that the drug aspect is one of the worst things we deal with in the electronic dance scene. I've been DJing over 15 yrs and never had a problem keeping a handle on the partying. Unfortunately, I've seen a lot of people who have. I've seen people's lives ruined, people getting taken away in ambulances, and good people who are no longer with us as a result of their carelessness. It's not the best part of our scene and I don't like it to be as much a focus as it is. It's hurt the scene a lot over the years and totally destroyed some scenes. I'd never promote drugs as a cool thing. I always liked Madonna, but that was a straight up tacky move and it was good to see a clear statement made there!
One other thing struck me abot him.. from his interview; That he's telling other artists (Madonna) what to do or not to do. This from his idea of moral superiority. It's a Pandora's box (individual responsibillity and souverignity?) he's opened before. It's hypocritical, and exactly this is typical of the mainstream culture he's part of.
Now you're putting words into his mouth. He's not telling Madonna what to do but he's telling how he thinks about it. Just like anyone else he has opinions about pretty much anything so he's not traveling the high road. Because it's so much blown up in the media people think he's somehow lecturing her.
If you have to blame someone you should look at the media that are spinning some comments into something big so they can make a buck or two. They are like parasites feeding of famous people that cannot speak their mind anymore and then are depicted as dumb tight asses because the presses have to keep rollin.
He will probably be better than Hans Zimmer because not only does he know how to play piano and arrange music but he also knows all the technical stuff.
He will probably be better than Hans Zimmer because not only does he know how to play piano and arrange music but he also knows all the technical stuff.
just choked on my coffee laughing at that, comedy gold
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But I'm saying- He just started using Cubase, which is sort of the defacto standard of film scoring daw's.
Actually it's quite rare ( apart from Hans Zimmer who is also an investor in Steinberg ). It's mostly Logic and Digital Performer everywhere you look at film composer's rigs.
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He will probably be better than Hans Zimmer because not only does he know how to play piano and arrange music but he also knows all the technical stuff.
Uh... no. Playing the piano and knowing technical stuff is not enough to make you a film composer, even a bad one. And Hans is good, very good ( although not my favorite )
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Now you're putting words into his mouth. He's not telling Madonna what to do but he's telling how he thinks about it. Just like anyone else he has opinions about pretty much anything so he's not traveling the high road. Because it's so much blown up in the media people think he's somehow lecturing her.
If you have to blame someone you should look at the media that are spinning some comments into something big so they can make a buck or two. They are like parasites feeding of famous people that cannot speak their mind anymore and then are depicted as dumb tight asses because the presses have to keep rollin.
He targets artists who are more open about the use of substances, period.
That is hypocritical because (part of) his audience is enjoying HIS music intoxicated. If anyone thinks that a crowd of young people in a concert like that is sober, you're delusional. They're having fun on the music. And it's not the first time Deadmau5 has come out like that. (Last time he called security on a fellow artist who lighted up a spliff backstage.)
The BS about poor kids being carried away on stretchers is because his concerts are overcrowded and ppl. pass out. So.. there you have it. He's spinning a BS story. Perfect posterboy for the consumer entertainment media in a certain part of the world.
My question is not: Should ppl. do substances, but: Who does he think he is to determine that for other people?
I'm sorry I'm quite blunt, but I'm allergic to people (like our mouse) that tell other people how to live their lives when they don't know what they're talking about.
The media, tabloids and "famous" people are part of the same system. It's a symbiosis, one cannot live without the other. The idea of why these people are "famous" is not because they're talented (there are famous hacks and talented nobodies) but because they play a role in a theatre play that is their (public) life. If you can't see that, IMO you're "starstruck".
Don't get me wrong, I'm not putting down "famous" people, their lives are very demanding because all eyes are on them ALL the time, and their fans are the third party of the symbiosis. The fans are entertained by the "fairy tale".
If you think I'm off my head, go watch TMZ for a week or so.
edit: actually I just did right now: http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/28/snoop-...d-norway-weed/
All the ingrediënts are there: A star doing something naughty, entertaining his fans, and the mass media covering it all, thus reïnforcing the idea that what the artist did is actually really naughty, and creating a mythical "rebel" aura for the star artist and strenghtening his "star" status. Symbiosis. Without the media attention he'd be another talented rapper. For Deadmau5 it works a little different; his blunt comments on the internet are the topic du jour. Without the "star" status he wouldn't draw those crowds, no matter how talented he is, or might be, complaining about it is part of the game.
Well his opinion about substance abuse is rather mild by my comparison. Because I think people using substance for recreational purposes are poor excuses of human beings for needing a substance to improve their lives somehow while there are enough ways to enjoy yourself without any substances.
Besides he'd repeatedly said that he's not telling other people what they should do or not. Just that he thinks people are accountable for their own actions which I agree with.
And as to the symbiosis of the tabloids and the artists. It may be the way things are but when so called journalists are tapping into phone lines of famous people and (even worse) get away with that it's pretty much a f-ed up situation that needs to change. But as long as the sheep like masses feed off this crap just to make them feel a little better of their miserable lives it's never gonna stop anyway. And in a way this is quite similar of whole generations being addicted to something they can't control. At least that is what they think because they don't get a reality check.
You could stop watching TV and dumb sites and you can focus on your own life just a little more. Especially spending time in the studio instead of some silly interwebz forum.
He will probably be better than Hans Zimmer because not only does he know how to play piano and arrange music but he also knows all the technical stuff.
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