Slim Phatty (sub bass patch has white noise) WHY?!

[verve92]

Does the SP even have a dedicated noise generator? The LP does not.

[TYPHY]

Nope.. only as a lfo source, but there is no lfo on this patch.
I can throw a low pass filter at 800hz on the audio track inside PT and get rid of it pretty good.
I'm just bugged by why it's there in the 1st place.

[Myrok Rolles]

Sure you didn't buy the cracked version?

[Elvis Gotta Gun]

Are you using a noisy preamp?

Did you turn the phatty volume all the way up?

[ozy]

ahem...

which waveform did you use as a starter?

[Fifstar]

I can barely hear anything on the second example unless I turn the volume way up, isn't it just some low level noise from the synth or preamp?

[Elvis Gotta Gun]

Too embarrassed to report back I see.

Stick to modelling.

[ozy]

Originally Posted by Elvis Gotta Gun

Stick to modelling.

I think he was just joking about the "modeling" thing.

It was a joke, right?

"VA", "modeling", the likes?

No? Not a joke?

[TYPHY]

I'm using a Komplete Audio 6 interface.
The SP volume knob IS all the way up, which is another question I have.. how come I always seem to have to turn the volume knob all the way up when I'm making sub bass patches? I guess they just get quieter by nature?

Anyways, I'm using a square wave.
I'm thinking the hiss is caused by using overload? I had the knob turned up to 10 o clock.

It was bugging me but putting a simple low pass filter at 800hz on the track got rid of the hiss.

And yes.. I am a Ralph Lauren Model.

[verve92]

Originally Posted by Elvis Gotta Gun

Too embarrassed to report back I see.

Stick to modelling.

Awww C'mon man. Give the cat a break he has a Moog!
BTW if you are joking use the:
OP: You could always use the Moog forum. Lotta knowledge there as well.

[Elvis Gotta Gun]

Originally Posted by TYPHY

And yes.. I am a Ralph Lauren Model.

Oh, err... okay then.

Thought that was a joke, hence the sarcastic jab.

[mike vee]

[verve92]

^^^^Post of the year on GS!^^^^

[ozy]

Originally Posted by TYPHY

And yes.. I am a Ralph Lauren Model.

sorry. Didn't mean to offend you.

Every job has its own dignity, no matter how humble.

Originally Posted by TYPHY

how come I always seem to have to turn the volume knob all the way up when I'm making sub bass patches? I guess they just get quieter by nature?

Of course you KNOW, from any acoustics handbook, that the human ear perceives middle/high frequencies as "louder" than bass frequencies, so that the lower you go with filter cutoff, the "quieter" the sound will sound like, right?

Sub-bass is not about "perceived loudness". You wanna loudness which suffocates any hiss, you use a distorted guitar and crunch power chords on it. No hiss will be perceived by human era at a headbanger concert, rest assured.

You of course also know that, once the incoming signal (=synth bass) is attenuated by the filter and you boost the amp (be it synth's amp or a mixer pre or a final amp), the amp will enhance everything including hardware noise. Right?

So that, the lower the original signal by reference to hardware's noise, the worse the noise after you pump everything to 11, right?

Question is: what's your purpose in using sub-bass?

Getting louder? Giving "body" to the sound?

That's NOT what sub-bass is about.

I used to generate sub frequencies with one of my synths, as a joke: closed filter, pump the amp, hit a low C... hear beeer bottles rattle, but no apparent sound from the synth.

Well... there was PLENTY of hiss going around when I did that.

Hope this helps.

[justjoo]

That's normal.
I've tested two little phatty (the oldest one and the most recent model) and two Voyagers: all of them had a bit of noise.

[verve92]

Originally Posted by justjoo

That's normal.
I've tested two little phatty (the oldest one and the most recent model) and two Voyagers: all of them had a bit of noise.

Just curious. How do synths respond to noise gates? I never liked them especially cheap ones in the MFX units would kill the sustain and would just cut it off. Most of my synths are quiet, except for the monotribe and the normally noisy chorus on my AJ1