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Old 20th July 2012   #1
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Linn 9000 vs Linndrum?

what do you think of the 9000?
i'm thinking of using the samples for my next project - did Prince ever use this instead of the Linndrum?
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Well, It's sampling drum machine. Do you mean the pre-loaded sounds? Wouldn't users have sampled real drum kits into it?

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I have a linndrum and linn9000.

Sold linn9000.. And mine was not buggy.
Great concept. Let down by poor implementation. A forat9000 would be wicked, but to take a Linn9000 up to a Forat9000 could make you rather poor.

The Linn9000 to me sounds like 1986. Think Stock Aiken Waterman production.
Not as solid sounding as the thuddy Linndrum.
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I've had a couple Linn 9000s but also sold them. I never liked the internal sounds. The older Linndrums are much better. The power supplies in the 9000 are very unreliable as well...
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9K Power supplies can be swapped out for a more modern solution.

The strength in the 9K is the sample option and the sound libraries on floppy.

Stock sounds are rather dissapointing. Very good hihat though !

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I also have the LinnDrum and the 9000, and they are both classics, but while the LinnDrum is the drum machine of the '80s because of its stock soundset and its ease of use, the forte of the 9000 is its powerful sequencer.

Also, the stock bass drum of the 9000 is a bit "pillow-like", so I've been told by Bruce Forat that many customers back in the day didn't like it, and swapped the stock bass drum with a newer bass drum chip that had a punchier sound. I got that chip too, definitely punchier.

The LinnDrum is the drum sound of the early and mid '80s.

The 9000 wasn't as successful because of its notorious software problems, and its cost; and as I've read on books and interviews, S.A.W. didn't use its internal sounds, but as a "workstation" master sequencer; they triggered other drum samples from it.
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Didn't linn basically shut down around the time of the 9000?
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Out of curiosity, how much would be a fair price for an original LinnDrum?

I've seen one recently serviced for 7200$ in another forum, and my thought was that it was simply crack-pot price... so I was wondering if I'm wrong or if they are actually worth insane amounts...
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7200 is for a linn lm 1.(the one you probably want-was on most of 80s pop songs) They are very rare and that was/is the machine prince used. The linndrum which is the newer model, is far more limiting but still sounds great. I own all of these and the lm 1 is my favorite. However, learn how to process these because the sounds you here on records are not what it will sound like when you turn them on. They are seriously dry and need heavy eq and effects. I am the linn drum KING on these forums. I record and use them daily on every single one of my projects.Probably more than anyone else. I mean daily lol. They are essential to the music I make. Any questions you can message me. 1000-1500 is the going price for a linndrum that's in good shape. 6000-8500 is the going price for an lm-1. 2000-3500 for a 9000. Good luck.
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Is your drum machine fetish annoying you yet?
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Yes it's too damn expensive and a pain to record. Cables everywhere !
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I had Linn 9000 for a short period and have LM2 ( actually had few in past years ...BUT this one that I have now is here to stay) with JL cooper midi

Sold 9000 cause I found Studio 440 far better machine!! sound wise and workflow of 440 blows Linn 9000 away ... also sold my sp 12 ....its nice machine .. but not my cup of tea!

only sampling drum station that i have and can eat all SP1200, Studio 440 and 9000 is DYNACORD - ADD ONE !! its rare piece but great BEST drum sampler I ever heard.

I never had LM1 but ive tried it and it is great fat sounding drum machine but to give 5K+ $ for that box is insane !!!
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Roginator I've sold to you the 440 cause the forat 9000 is definitely playing in another league -the sc 440 has a static groove in comparaison . 440 has a lovely sound (not as dynamic / heavy as the forat IMHO which is 8 bits of pure joy),

440 sequencer has limitations in comparaison and the ability with the 9000 to have direct access to sliders for changing the sample tune or other parameters live is super efficient...Pads of the linn are also an experience of its own.

Ok the forat is a linn 9000 on stereoid ...and my father is stronger than yours -Forat 9000 customized for Isham | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

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Roginator I've sold to you the 440 cause the forat 9000 is definitely playing in another league -the sc 440 has a static groove in comparaison . 440 has a lovely sound (not as dynamic / heavy as the forat IMHO which is 8 bits of pure joy),

440 sequencer has limitations in comparaison and the ability with the 9000 to have direct access to sliders for changing the sample tune or other parameters live is super efficient...Pads of the linn are also an experience of its own.

Ok the forat is a linn 9000 on stereoid ...and my father is stronger than yours -Forat 9000 customized for Isham | Flickr - Photo Sharing!


haha

You have nice forat 9000 ..but on that level its actually far from stock linn 9000

anyway ... ill stick to ADD one and Studio 440 for now
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You are right my friend (I respect your always good tastes in gear even I challenged you a bit here)

Of course to upgrade a linn 9000 to a forat 9000 has a cost and it is not really a comparable machine (there were btw also forat 9000 from scratch and Bruce sold them directly as is during few years ).

I'm a lucky owner of all Linn family (from lm1 to tempest) and if I had to keep only one it would be without a doubt the forat, my linndrum is midified and has ziff sockets for changing easily EPROMs (808 sounds in linndrum is really weird) and I like it for disco stuffs.

The lm-1 sounds indeed raw and heavy, it reminds me always Prince and Genesis early good songs (7k $ is indeed insane but rarity creates this inflation I suppose), my next move with it is to let Bruce adding the tuning pots in front and potentially something special as "triggers ins" if possible... I was offered some heavy amount of cash but well it is a piece of history which stills sound very special...
Sorry for the out of topic story maybe it helps a bit the thread starter ...
David Z (Prince producer on this track) used the Linn 9000 on "kiss" song

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I have the zif sockets as well. It's pretty sweet. Bruce sells the all kinds of chips. Even lm 1 chips. I don't own a tempest how is it? I make strictly 80s pop.
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You have nice forat 9000 ..but on that level its actually far from stock linn 9000

anyway ... ill stick to ADD one and Studio 440 for now
would love to have some of the add one drum samples, where can you download some free samples of the stock kits from?
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would love to have some of the add one drum samples, where can you download some free samples of the stock kits from?
Nowhere :(

I dont know where to look too.. I have few disks but its hard to find Original ones!
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Both machines are cool. And, the sounds are different. I like the LinnDrum II because it "always" sounds good, and it is super easy to use. At the same time, I used to own a 9000, and I liked it as well. The sounds were a little cleaner, I think. If possible, you should own one of each.
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