I've always been bad with traditional song structures, and have wanted to use the sounds of nature as a guide for arranging.
Take a field recorder into a spot for a little bit, and record. Replace each element from nature with a sound/melody. Say, a bird is chirping on the right side, then a car drives by behind you. Replace both of those elements with a similar sound that has melody. I think it'd be cool for a "sound environment" type of thing.
Anyone done this before? Aren't there "organic"/"game of life" ways of arranging things?
Nice idea/topic! Really interested in the outcome.
I think you should do this. It may not be of shock to you but many of nature's intervals are based around the golden ratio so you might want to use a golden ratio overlay that you can scale over the field recording and see if you can find it in more chaotic systems also like your example.
Ill base my song structure on how much cash I can make and spend it with hot women. Its been a while but they were good days. I found the girls to be very natural. I may see a pigeon floating by my studio window now and then but Im not feeling a musical vibe off it. The thought of hard cash and hotties. Thats what keeps me still going.
Nice idea/topic! Really interested in the outcome.
I think you should do this. It may not be of shock to you but many of nature's intervals are based around the golden ratio so you might want to use a golden ratio overlay that you can scale over the field recording and see if you can find it in more chaotic systems also like your example.
I'm definitely familiar with the golden ratio / pi / fibonacci sequences, and their place in nature. I always found it really interesting, any sort of mathematical proportion that occurs in nature; growth pattern of trees, shells, human body, etc.
Ill base my song structure on how much cash I can make and spend it with hot women. Its been a while but they were good days. I found the girls to be very natural. I may see a pigeon floating by my studio window now and then but Im not feeling a musical vibe off it. The thought of hard cash and hotties. Thats what keeps me still going.
Not much fun when you only have 3.14" to work with
I'm definitely familiar with the golden ratio / pi / fibonacci sequences, and their place in nature. I always found it really interesting, any sort of mathematical proportion that occurs in nature; growth pattern of trees, shells, human body, etc.
I'll look into what you are talking about!
I eventually figured that mathematical proportions don't just occur in nature but rather we are starting to able to perceive those proportions in the maze of chaos.
Everything in this universe from my understanding is based on parameters and relationships between them. Sometimes the complexity of these interactions is so big that the basic and fundamental relationships are hidden from the human perception.
Anyway it would be a too big of a task for the human brain (even with it's amazing power to translate sense into meaning) to understand the true simplexity of the universe so we are for now bounded to a more binary way of thinking.
Ill base my song structure on how much cash I can make and spend it with hot women. Its been a while but they were good days. I found the girls to be very natural.
indeed !
... more natural than passing CARS anyway
(birds.... ok. But: are CARS "natural"?!? Are they more "natural" than a synthesizer?)
Ill base my song structure on how much cash I can make and spend it with hot women. . . The thought of hard cash and hotties. Thats what keeps me still going.
It's interesting and fun to go out in nature to get ideas, but I don't feel there is much point in attempting a 1:1 relation unless you're doing an art installation.
I find Five12 Numerology the easiest program to rough out self relational compositions, but some people go for Max.
But really anything you do is natural. Free improv, yo. The book effortless mastery by Kenny Werner is a nice easy read.
Well, I would eventually like to do sound for installations. I have friends who do that sort of thing, and I've become interested in creating sound environments to accompany their pieces.
Ha, I know cars aren't natural by any means, but they definitely happen. Just an example, anyway.
I read once that one of the guys from Tera Melos recorded a sprinkler, and ended up using that as the rhythm for either drums or guitar. I have heard fans make a lot of cool polyrhythms before, and I wish I had recorded them. Almost like industrial style stuff.
You might try using piezo electric triggers and a drum module or anything that responds to CV. They are pretty fragile, but with some protection you could set them up to get run over, stepped on, etc. Or you could do things like drop a bouncing ball on it.
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I have heard fans make a lot of cool polyrhythms before, and I wish I had recorded them. Almost like industrial style stuff.
These are cool attached to fans, especially if you can control the speed of them.
Aren't there "organic"/"game of life" ways of arranging things?
Reaktor ships with a Game of Life sequencer that can be used standalone and has visually adjustable parameters. It comes attached to the Newschool ensemble.
(birds.... ok. But: are CARS "natural"?!? Are they more "natural" than a synthesizer?)
in such a case your making loads of cash from your music, a car is perfectly natural. The faster, more expensive it is the better, After all entire sum of all its parts came from this earth and were once part of a sun that went supernova. How more natural can you get than a ferrari or a Zonda and sitting right next to you one of earths most beautiful creations...and Im not talking about hilda ogden.
but I had better leave this thread now Im sure my comments will not be appreciated.
Nature works with geometry. Thats more exact and faster than a crutch like math. Math is just an attempt to get a grip on geometry and it doesn't work all the time. The cromatic scale (and a few others, too) can be shown overlaying a logarithmic spiral over a polar diagram, for example. Math loses because of rounding errors. Researching all that is so much fun, no wonder they don't expose schoolchildren to it.
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Free improv, yo. The book effortless mastery by Kenny Werner is a nice easy read.
