Stop with the "Um.. it sounds like a 909 with compression and eq" talk already!! You guys have to realize, that the top dj's and producers these days has 0 free time, which means they don't have time to create their own kicks. And because of this, the result is, Vengeance. The kick your after in "Alive" can be found in the Vengeance Elektroshock Vol. 2 (VES2 Bassdrum 088). (alt the VES2 Bassdrum 068 as i've heard that kick in many Thomas Gold tracks)
PS: As mentioned before, SHM used the 088 kick as top kick, i haven't found the "fat" kick yet, but it's the same as axwell used in "In The Air" if that helps.