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Old 9th July 2012   #1
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Fat round kick drum like Dirty South & Thomas Gold's "Alive"

I am trying to create a huge, fat, round kick drum like the one used in "Alive" by Dirty South & Thomas Gold. I even tried sampling the actual kick from the track itself but after importing it into my DAW (FL 10) it just never has the same effect. My kick drums always sound like they have to much tail verb or boxiness and not enough quick, deep, punch.

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Dirty South & Thomas Gold feat. Kate Elsworth - Alive (Original Mix) - YouTube

Any ideas? Please be specific.
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tbh, that sounds like a plain jane 909, straight.

its GREAT, just not that special.
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I have compared it at the sam e volume level to tracks by Michael Woods, Bass Kleph, Eric Prydz, etc and the kick in Alive is just way more strong powerful than any of them. I'm sure it has to do with mastering, etc as well but it can't just be a straight 909, they have some serious tweaking and possibly layering done to it.
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Can you hear the top end on that thing?? It's a monster!
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Sounds like a 909-type kick with a low freq sine wave augmenting it, sculpted with good EQ and plenty of simultaneous snare-type hits emphasising the downstroke in the composition!
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So you think they have a 909 + sub sine wave + several hi end (tick/snare) type samples all layered and compressed?
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I'd say that's exactly the same kick, Swedish House Mafia used on "One"
And no, it's not a 909.

There's a youtube-vid, where SHM show how they layered a top-kick sample and a bottom-kick sample to get this kick sound (i'd guess they used vengeance samples). Since the multitracks of "One" were floating around in the net, you could hear this particular kickdrum in a lot of tracks of this genre.
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Stop with the "Um.. it sounds like a 909 with compression and eq" talk already!! You guys have to realize, that the top dj's and producers these days has 0 free time, which means they don't have time to create their own kicks. And because of this, the result is, Vengeance. The kick your after in "Alive" can be found in the Vengeance Elektroshock Vol. 2 (VES2 Bassdrum 088). (alt the VES2 Bassdrum 068 as i've heard that kick in many Thomas Gold tracks)

PS: As mentioned before, SHM used the 088 kick as top kick, i haven't found the "fat" kick yet, but it's the same as axwell used in "In The Air" if that helps.
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the top dj's and producers these days has 0 free time, which means they don't have time to create their own kicks. And because of this, the result is, Vengeance.
Wow, I wanna be a top dj too.
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what a great thread, we should all use the same Kicks, then we can all be number one!

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Maybe Thomas Gold and Dirty South used that kick, but Swedish house mafia didn't. That samplepack came out half a year after Swedish house mafia released "One". And Axwell used that kick at his In the air remix from early 2009 too. That must mean he didn't use the kick from Vengeance.
Ergo, he made it himself. Atleast combined a few, but he didn't take one that came straight from a samplepack. U know that, Veangeance samples kicks from tracks made by Swedish house mafia guys.
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