Livid Instruments CNTRL R...anyone using this??

[Word]

I was gonna, got the rgb slim instead. I played with it for a couple days, loved it. But currently it's benched because I really only use it to play live, not compose.

I use the akai mpk25 to compose, I hate it though. For some reason when I pull out the usb cord it makes my computer crash. It's obnoxious. Sometimes the mod wheel starts to move itself, too. And as quality goes, you get what you pay for.

[minibof]

Originally Posted by Word

I was gonna, got the rgb slim instead. I played with it for a couple days, loved it. But currently it's benched because I really only use it to play live, not compose.

I use the akai mpk25 to compose, I hate it though. For some reason when I pull out the usb cord it makes my computer crash. It's obnoxious. Sometimes the mod wheel starts to move itself, too. And as quality goes, you get what you pay for.

Thanks Word.

How do you find the software/programmability side of things? I couldn't find any info to confirm that it's supported natively in Live but it seems there's a community making templates for the hardware.

Thanks

[Word]

Yeah I've only used it in live,

But the editor software is, functional I guess hahaha. Its not the greatest, but it gets the job done. My gripe is that you can only edit one button/fader/encoder at a time. As for the templates, their community is tiny and quiet. Last time I checked there were a couple.

[percussa]

Originally Posted by minibof

Morning all,

I've had a few midi controllers over the years but never really stuck with one for one reason or another.

These days I'm pretty much arranging everything in Live and mixing in Logic and it's the composition side of things I'd like some more hands-on control over, other than just my midi keyboard.

So, I've looked at the obvious candidates including Akai APC 40 and Novation Remote Zero mkii but I'm not 100% sold on either just now.

I do own a launchpad which I've used a little but never fully utilised (more so with Numerology strangely) and an original Faderfox LV2 which is nice but requires full attention to make sure I'm in the correct function.

Which leads me to my next point...is anyone using the CNTRL R or any of the other Livid controllers to great effect? I'm a huge step-sequencer fan for drums which is why I'm drawn to this unit over the others.

Also, I should mention I'm not adverse to a bit of programming/setting up if it means I get my ideal workflow.

Thanks for any constructive comment

Have you checked out the AudioCubes yet?

see http://www.percussa.com/2010/12/21/s...bleton-live-8/

[minibof]

Thank you.

I'm vaguely familiar with those cubes but never really had a close look at them.

I'll check that link but I think I'll still need a fader bank.

Mb

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[percussa]

Originally Posted by minibof

Thank you.

I'm vaguely familiar with those cubes but never really had a close look at them.

I'll check that link but I think I'll still need a fader bank.

Mb

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have you thought about touchosc and an ipod touch?

[Hint]

Originally Posted by minibof

Thanks Word.

How do you find the software/programmability side of things? I couldn't find any info to confirm that it's supported natively in Live but it seems there's a community making templates for the hardware.

Thanks

Be aware that in order to use these controllers effectively with Ableton, particularly the RGB functions, you need a Python script. Unlike (for example) Traktor, it's not as simple as using MIDI learn in Live or whatever. Live's mapping capabilities for controllers are intentionally limited and officially undocumented.

I bought a Livid RGB Ohm and a copy of Live after watching a couple of videos and thinking I could set something up quickly myself. I was pretty disappointed when the reality set in. Fortunately the Livid community is helpful and I got assistance making a custom Python script.

Be prepared to either limit yourself to the available templates or to spend a considerable amount of time working out what you want to do and learning Python coding. They are a great company making great controllers, but it's important that you know what you're getting into.

[percussa]

Originally Posted by Hint

Be aware that in order to use these controllers effectively with Ableton, particularly the RGB functions, you need a Python script. Unlike (for example) Traktor, it's not as simple as using MIDI learn in Live or whatever. Live's mapping capabilities for controllers are intentionally limited and officially undocumented.

I bought a Livid RGB Ohm and a copy of Live after watching a couple of videos and thinking I could set something up quickly myself. I was pretty disappointed when the reality set in. Fortunately the Livid community is helpful and I got assistance making a custom Python script.

Be prepared to either limit yourself to the available templates or to spend a considerable amount of time working out what you want to do and learning Python coding. They are a great company making great controllers, but it's important that you know what you're getting into.

If you get AudioCubes, mixing colours from within Live is super simple. You just create clips which send MIDI CC messages, to the MIDI port for MIDIBridge, the main MIDI routing app for AudioCubes (see AudioCubes bring Live Performance one step higher )

In MIDIBridge the MIDI CCs are received (red/green/blue) and sent to the cubes. Of course you can also send MIDI CCs into MIDIBridge from any other controller, like a fader box.

Feel free to email cubes [at] percussa [dot] com if you have any questions.

[Spip]

This thread is about Cntlr:r not about your cubes…
Don't spam it, please

Does anyone know the difference in quality between Ohm RGB and the Cntlr:r ?

[percussa]

Originally Posted by Spip

This thread is about Cntlr:r not about your cubes…
Don't spam it, please

Does anyone know the difference in quality between Ohm RGB and the Cntlr:r ?

Spamming is submitting information that has nothing to do with this forum.

[Spip]

9 posts with half in this thread...

Thank you for being so useful and so much interested in the life of this forum

PS :another thank you for the nice little vocabulary lesson.

[oopfoo]

I've hemmed and hawed about a Livid unit for some time, but never felt it was RIGHT. This morning, I've just purchased an 8-unit Livid Elements rack. I'm interested to see just how complex this setup might actually be, and have some interest in using the unit with Kyma as well as Live. I'll be reporting on what it takes.

Percussa, I think the point was that you are steering the discussion toward a commercial product that YOU happen to make and sell. While I think the cubes are interesting, it's not really appropriate to throw sales information for them into a thread where the OP's question wasn't about such controllers. It's not about insulting you or your product, not at all.

[Spip]

Originally Posted by oopfoo

This morning, I've just purchased an 8-unit Livid Elements rack. I'm interested to see just how complex this setup might actually be, and have some interest in using the unit with Kyma as well as Live. I'll be reporting on what it takes.

Thanks, I didn't pay attention to these ones.
What about the quality of the knobs, they look a little bit small and fragile. I'm on the fence to order one myself. If you have any comment, please do
I'm not totally seduced by the Cntlr:r but I need a good controller for playing with Max and to be honest I don't know what to do.

[Word]

Originally Posted by Spip

This thread is about Cntlr:r not about your cubes…
Don't spam it, please

Does anyone know the difference in quality between Ohm RGB and the Cntlr:r ?

They both have midi, they both have the same basic features

The difference is, the cntrl r has a 2 extra rows of buttons to be used as a step sequencer. Also there is a vst made for the step sequencer in ableton for free

[minibof]

Originally Posted by Word

They both have midi, they both have the same basic features

The difference is, the cntrl r has a 2 extra rows of buttons to be used as a step sequencer. Also there is a vst made for the step sequencer in ableton for free

It's that step-sequencer functionality that draws me towards the cntrl-r over any other Livid controllers. Getting close to pulling the trigger on one. I will report back with the programming side of things once I'm underway, but I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty if it means finally creating a solid template to use with Live.

mb

[oopfoo]

To revive an old thread, I just received my Elements controllers this week.

Includes 2 16-knob controllers, 2 16-button controllers, 2 fader/button controllers, and 2 8-fader controllers. AND...since they delayed my order, they sent me a free arcade button controller (which turns out to be crazy useful)!

I've just started poking about with it, but have found standard MIDI and CC assignments are pretty simple. The Elements software is a pretty trick piece of gear to program their Brain controller and setup the hardware to do pretty much what you want to do. Then, it's just a matter of making your assignments.

The only snags I ran into: 1) the connectors are a little short to reach the bottom-left corner of the box, especially in the multi-connector controls. I solved this by flipping the 16-button controllers upside down and sticking them there. You just assign them upside down in the software and use them normally from there on. 2) the screws are not M3-6 like the rest of my Eurorack crap, but the M2.5 screws found on laptops. I called to ask about this, and they sent me a big package of them.

I'll have a full review coming, but so far, my experience with Livid has been wonderful! Rachel and Fletch are awesome, and went all-out to make sure I've been happy with the new product. Highly recommended.

[Hobbs_Won]

I hate to bump an old thread but I am on the fence with buying one of these...

Actually.. I want to build one with the brain kit. Originally, I wanted to install an MPC sensor PCB in it (because brain can work with almost any component)...

But the ribbon cable is huge for the original MPC's and I am not sure of a workaround because the Livid brain/breakout boards only accept 10, 14 and 16 pin ribbon headers.

So, the big hold up is the Livid pads.... does anybody have experience with the sensitivity? Are these functional only as a "press" button or can u actually drum on these things?