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#1 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: California
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Thread Starter | Made in the USA Analog Synth Shootout
I just released this feature shootout on my site. It compares the Slim Phatty, SEM, and Mopho, then lets you vote on which is the best.
Shootout here: Analog synth shootout |
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#2 | | Gear addict
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Cool GFX
I voted the Moog after reading your write up but have wanted a SEM more after listening to sounds
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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If I had to just pick out of the 3 I'd go SEM.
But the whole Mopho Key w/Tetra combo seems very "useful"
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#4 | | Gear addict
Joined: Mar 2011 Location: New York
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Can you add studio electronics please?
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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The best part about all three is that they're amazing sounding and great deals no matter which you choose.
If I had to break down the strengths, I'd say:
-Oscillators-
1st Place: SEM
2nd Place: Slim Phatty
3rd Place: Mopho
-Filter-
1st Place: Slim Phatty
2nd Place: SEM
3rd Place: Mopho
-Modulation-
1st Place: Mopho
2nd Place: Slim Phatty
3rd Place: SEM
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#6 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 825
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Originally Posted by Goodfellow Can you add studio electronics please? | |
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Goodfellow Can you add studio electronics please? | I agree with this.
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#8 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: California
Posts: 186
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by ctrlshft The best part about all three is that they're amazing sounding and great deals no matter which you choose.
If I had to break down the strengths, I'd say:
-Oscillators-
1st Place: SEM
2nd Place: Slim Phatty
3rd Place: Mopho
-Filter-
1st Place: Slim Phatty
2nd Place: SEM
3rd Place: Mopho
-Modulation-
1st Place: Mopho
2nd Place: Slim Phatty
3rd Place: SEM | I would've liked to include a deeper analysis of sounds in the shootout along with some audio examples. But it could've grown out of control, possibly to epic proportions.
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#9 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2010 Location: Atlantic Rim |
There are lots of good modular manufacturers in the US... just saying.
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#10 | | Gear maniac
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#11 | | Gear addict
Joined: Mar 2011 Location: New York
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Originally Posted by vmachine | Used...
Yeah, saw that seconds after my post. Still, would be interesting to up the number to $1500. While not linked directly to a historical brand, I'd say that the SE-1 has a historically grounded sound. Arguably more Moog than the modern ones of the name.
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#12 | | Gear maniac
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If it were $1500, then the Future Retro XS would need to be added too. I kinda think the XS is the next level up as far as features go.
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#13 | | Gear addict
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Tetra should be in the mix there...but I guess not since it doesn't have an audio input.
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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Or a decent interface.,...
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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I don't understand this "American-centric" issue. It's interesting and productive to discuss synths in light of their features, materials that they are made of, their inner structure and such.
Since when nationality is an interesting and productive category to annalyze synths?!
There are also german, french, italian, japanease, indian etc - synths.
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#16 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Oct 2011 Location: California
Posts: 186
Thread Starter |
Anyone feel like saying why they choose one over the other two?
I like the SEM the best because I think it sounds better than the other two. The white paint job is cool too. The new SEM seems primitive and raw. Like it didn't need to evolve or get any upgrades to still sounds better than almost everything else over the last 30-whatever years.
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#17 | | Gear maniac
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by zahush76 I don't understand this "American-centric" issue. It's interesting and productive to discuss synths in light of their features, materials that they are made of, their inner structure and such.
Since when nationality is an interesting and productive category to annalyze synths?!
There are also german, french, italian, japanease, indian etc - synths. | I think it's actually pretty interesting to look at synthesizer design from a cultural perspective. And the shootout is "American-centric" cause the USA rocks at building synthesizers.
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#18 | | Gear addict
Joined: Apr 2011
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Originally Posted by vmachine Anyone feel like saying why they choose one over the other two? | The Mopho because it's very versatile and sounds great. Quote: |
The white paint job is cool too.
| And that's what I hate about it. White is so blah. Quote: |
The new SEM seems primitive and raw. Like it didn't need to evolve or get any upgrades to still sounds better than almost everything else over the last 30-whatever years.
| That's a bold statement. Personally, I've never been into the Oberheim "sound." Moog, yes. Sequential Circuits/DSI, yes. Roland, yes. Korg, yes. Oberheim, not really.
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#19 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Hazmatic That's a bold statement. Personally, I've never been into the Oberheim "sound." Moog, yes. Sequential Circuits/DSI, yes. Roland, yes. Korg, yes. Oberheim, not really. | You might not be in to the Oberheim filter sound, but trust me, you might be in to the oscillator sound even if you don't know it.
It's got the biggest, hairiest, most pendulous oscs you've ever heard. Run through a Moog filter for some truly obscene bass. The oscs sound quite a bit like the Minitaur's do.
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#20 | | Lives for gear
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I like American products. The missiles, uncle Sama-el, and guns in your pic are corny. |
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#21 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by 10 ton splash I like American products. The missiles, uncle Sama-el, and guns in your pic are corny.  | It shoulda had naked girls with fake tits and a whole crapload of Miller Highlife.
My vote: SEM
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#22 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by 10 ton splash I like American products. The missiles, uncle Sama-el, and guns in your pic are corny.  | It's supposed to be. I wanted it to have that "local car dealership on the 4th of July commercial" look to it.
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#23 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by Hazmatic That's a bold statement. Personally, I've never been into the Oberheim "sound." Moog, yes. Sequential Circuits/DSI, yes. Roland, yes. Korg, yes. Oberheim, not really. | I never really like the "SEM" filter they put on other synths, but the real SEM filter sounds great. It's a lot stronger than you might think.
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#24 | | Lives for gear
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I voted the slim phatty because i own it...
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#25 | | Lives for gear
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No Minitaur? |
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#26 | | Gear Head
Joined: May 2012
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Based on my subjective opinion about the sound character only:
1. Phatty
2. Mopho
3. SEM
I've got a lot of criticism about the new SEM sound. Long story short, it sounds harsh, which I don't like.
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#27 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by vmachine It's supposed to be. I wanted it to have that "local car dealership on the 4th of July commercial" look to it. | Hahaha, ok Team America like!
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