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A riddle for true slutz

Which drum machine has a step sequencer, separate out for each drum and velocity sensitive pads/triggers?
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Maschine + a soundcard with multiple outputs.
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Which drum machine has a step sequencer, separate out for each drum and velocity sensitive pads/triggers?
I'm guessing tempest as well
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Actualy no. Its your drum machine isnt it? I bet it is
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The tempest looks very very cool. Thanks!

(this is not really a riddle )
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Which drum machine has a step sequencer, separate out for each drum and velocity sensitive pads/triggers?
Roland R-8.

Although the step sequencer isn't useful for live uses, since you have to stop the machine in order to switch sounds...
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Roland R-8.

Although the step sequencer isn't useful for live uses, since you have to stop the machine in order to switch sounds...
Looks very cool. Kinda what i'm looking for.

What do you mean when you say the machine must be stopped to switch sounds?
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Does anyone know the Korg DDD-1? Does it have separate outs?
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Roland R-8.

Although the step sequencer isn't useful for live uses, since you have to stop the machine in order to switch sounds...
it's been years since i've used the R-8, but are you sure about that?


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Does anyone know the Korg DDD-1? Does it have separate outs?
yes, it does (six assignable). the pads are "velocity sensitive", but they feel pretty odd. like big clacky computer keys. i wouldn't really suggest the DDD-1, though it's pretty interesting.



the thing is, there's not much at all out there that has outputs for each sound. not sure if you meant this literally though, or are just looking for a number of assignable outputs.
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Does anyone know the Korg DDD-1? Does it have separate outs?
Yup! it has as previously stated 6 seperate outs plus 2 main outs.....and if you have the sampler card option fitted a seperate out for the sampler as well.

it also has a trigger out for triggering a drum voice on an analogue module, or for stepping an analogue sequencer/arp. There is an audio input for sampling which can also be assigned to trigger one of the internal sounds.

Despite the crap pads I would say get one if cheap enough! approx £50 GBP. Its 12bit and pitching the internal sounds can create some interesting effects, the sequencer is very easy to get the hang of and you can record in real time individual voice's tuning, decay time and dynamics. Step editing is straight forward as well.

All in all a winner i would say, the one let down is quite noisy outputs (though I havent had the chance to test the individual outputs yet only the headphones output). Last thing is that the swing is pretty much useless if set to swing 16ths, but I found swinging the 8th notes and speeding the tempo up gave quite nice swing levels.
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it's been years since i've used the R-8, but are you sure about that?
Yes.
Unfortunately - otherwise you'd have a truly fantastic machine that would be far more recognized than it is.

In step record mode, to switch instruments you have to stop the rythm playing, hit a pad to assign the new instrument, and then you can start the rythm again and punch in your steps (with velocity).

There is no way to assign different sounds than the one you currently program while the sequencer is running.


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What you may be thinking about is that you can edit the voice of any instrument while it is running - just go into sound edit mode (which you can do in both play and record modes) and whichever pad you hit is the voice you then can perform edits on without losing a beat.
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yes, it does (six assignable). the pads are "velocity sensitive", but they feel pretty odd. like big clacky computer keys. i wouldn't really suggest the DDD-1, though it's pretty interesting.



the thing is, there's not much at all out there that has outputs for each sound. not sure if you meant this literally though, or are just looking for a number of assignable outputs.
6 assignable is great. The Korg seems interesting, thanks. It can be a cool addition to my TR-707.
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R-8 might be velocity sensitive but I HATE those buttons/pads...

DDD-1 is such a pile of garbage... kind of love it tho...
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Which drum machine has a step sequencer, separate out for each drum and velocity sensitive pads/triggers?
I don't think something like an MPC or R-8 qualify? They only have 8 outs... those things have much more instruments it can play at once

Do you just mean.. what drum machines have velocity sensitivity and 8 outs?
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R-8 might be velocity sensitive but I HATE those buttons/pads...

DDD-1 is such a pile of garbage... kind of love it tho...
A lovable pile of garbage is a wonderful thing
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I don't think something like an MPC or R-8 qualify? They only have 8 outs... those things have much more instruments it can play at once

Do you just mean.. what drum machines have velocity sensitivity and 8 outs?
The point is to output each drum to a different out. That's how I have my 707 connected ATM. Since I usually don't use more then 6-8 drums at the same time when programing a beat I don't mind using a machine that has 6 or more assignable outputs.

The "feel" of the pads is not that important to me because I usually program in step mode. I love the programing approach of the TR-x0x machines, especially the 707 which gives you a led based step sequencer with an LCD that displays a grid of all the hits already programed. The only downside of the 707 (beside the fact that it has a very basic sound) is that it's not velocity sensitive.
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you want an R-8mk2. programming grid a la the 707/727/626/505 and assignable individual outs. plus each step can have it's own pitch and velocity settings. you can get some very expressive stuff and the classic sounds to boot.
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