No Disrespect to House & Techno but........
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So now we are clear....I agree with you, but its not so much the mix that bothers me, something has been lost from the actual music. The software tools make it too easy to copycat!

There are still people creating great music though, maybe its just the sheer volume of dance music that makes it harder to get to the good bits?
Oh dont get me wrong hell yeah there are some good tracks, just not enough though!

Software, well and presets maybe are hurting the genre!

It is sad, and instant gratification instead of a labour of love!
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Yo OP,


Are you looneytunes the reggaeton producer?
Nah man, But I have plenty of releases under Looneytune productions and mixed a few Reggaeton track stems!

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Can't be bothered reading all the posts, got half way though, sorry.

To the op, loads of hi-quality mixing and production around, you just gotta know the right ones.

I also don't like the modern 'pop' sound, all mid range and too damn loud.

I do love lots of hip-hop production though, Dre, Wu Tang, etc.

I like things deep, especially bass.



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thats because the hip hopers havent mooved to ableton live yet.. and in general ther is more money in hip hop because normal people buy that stuff while hosue techno is only bought by dj´s.. so how many dj´s you have within 100 people? 20? 30? ..ok.. thats the berlin figure,.

in the rest of th eworl its 1 or 2,.. or less

more money for the production => better sound


and in the low end.. slower speeds make a better lowend ..
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Can't be bothered reading all the posts, got half way though, sorry.

To the op, loads of hi-quality mixing and production around, you just gotta know the right ones.

I also don't like the modern 'pop' sound, all mid range and too damn loud.

I do love lots of hip-hop production though, Dre, Wu Tang, etc.

I like things deep, especially bass.



Look in the end of the day we all different in what we like......
In terms of sonics, width and depth!

I absolutley mean to not offend the house and techno headz by my thread.
I love House Music, and respect it and push the genre hard!!

Sure we cannot compare house to pop or rock or hip hop.

Like I said before It is very hard to say what I mean and feel via the Internot!
This guy as an engineer I do like, be it he is doing a band I dont like very much!

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Like I said before It is very hard to say what I mean and feel via the Internot!
This guy as an engineer I do like, be it he is doing a band I dont like very much!

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Look in the end of the day we all different in what we like......
In terms of sonics, width and depth!

I absolutley mean to not offend the house and techno headz by my thread.
I love House Music, and respect it and push the genre hard!!

Sure we cannot compare house to pop or rock or hip hop.

Like I said before It is very hard to say what I mean and feel via the Internot!
This guy as an engineer I do like, be it he is doing a band I dont like very much!

Dave Gahan
Its 2 different levels. Hip hop/rap, rock and pop have big labels and big money behind them. House and techno is still a DIY area.
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Check out Alex Kenji's tracks for great production. Nicky Romero - Toulouse, Knife Party - Fire Hive, Pryda - Illusions, etc.. etc..

Tracks also sound a lot better when you're not listening to YouTube.
Checked out those tracks. They all sounded horrible to my ears, particularly the Nicky Romero and the Knife Party tracks. Horrible mid-rangy distorted sounds, no warmth or anything ear-pleasing anywhere. If they played stuff like this at clubs I'd leave immediately, there's no way I'm listening to stuff like that loud on a decent PA, it'd destroy my ears.

This is what I prefer my house to sound like. Sounds great in clubs. And home too, of course.



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See, in contrast I found that absolutely terrible, monotone, and easily replicated. The same straight flat drum loop repeats through the whole thing with little else going on and a chord stab repeated in the most uninteresting way. This sounds like 90s house.

The second one is much better. Actually has a groove and is funky.
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People got different tastes I suppose... I personally can't stand that distorted mid-range lead that's so prevalent in dubstep and electrohouse right now. It's probably the ugliest sound I've ever come across. It literally hurts my ears.

I'd like to see you replicate a track like those though. Loopy, minimal house is EXTREMELY hard to get right, because the loop has to be so perfect. It sounds easy, but it isn't.
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Found this on vinyl at a local shop.
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@barfunkel - I have a feeling that first track was made by someone who didn't have a very notable music career. The second one is entirely different and I know well the type of crowd and venues it caters to and the market for it. It's successful for what it is, to the crowd it's meant to appeal to. Ultimately that's what matters. Skrillex isn't targetting deep house fans, John Digweed isn't targetting the D&B crowd, and Katy Perry isn't making music for headbangers. Part of being successful in this industry is being aware and in touch with the world around you.

Anyways.. These music discussions are completely pointless. It's useless debating taste.
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so um... come again... do you like techno or house?
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Software, well and presets maybe are hurting the genre!
Will this excuse ever end??
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Will this excuse ever end??
That is no doubt ridiculous. Presets have been in use as long as they've existed. Not every person with a good musical vision is a great sound designer. In the same token, the ability of a violinist to put on a good concert does not rely being able to build a violin.

Ultimately it's one person and one person only who is at fault if you're not able to find good tracks. Hint: he's the guy who greets you in the mirror when you brush your teeth.
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@barfunkel - I have a feeling that first track was made by someone who didn't have a very notable music career. .
It's made by Blaze. 6 albums, 72 singles, 278 remixes according to Discogs. And that's just under the alias Blaze.
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It's made by Blaze. 6 albums, 72 singles, 278 remixes according to Discogs. And that's just under the alias Blaze, if you include his other aliases and projects the numbers something like double.
Huh? Black Rascals is Blaze? I used to have Blaze - Lovely Dae on vinyl in the 90s and played it out a few times. I remember it well. That Black Rascals track sounded terrible though. Let's be honest, if I posted that in the work-in-progress forum asking for feedback it wouldn't be pretty.

edit: I see that Black Rascals is Blaze without Herbert. Any way.. MUCH better:

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OK, prove it
Prove what man?
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Guys arent we all friends here come on man!

Love yall its cool why we fighting for!
We can share our thoughts with out the riff raff!
Much love and make house!
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So you're sick of Depeche now?
Sometimes, new album should be sick though...2013 apparently.....

I also like this engineer cause he produce Depeche on the same stuff as me.......ha ha ha ha

All will be revealed soon

Just look out for the new thread I post shortly.........
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So over my old Neve console and damn ITB.........
Ahh my flame suit where is it!
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Its 2 different levels. Hip hop/rap, rock and pop have big labels and big money behind them. House and techno is still a DIY area.
Very true Sir!
I just find better albums are created on consoles ya know!
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That Black Rascals track sounded terrible though. Let's be honest, if I posted that in the work-in-progress forum asking for feedback it wouldn't be pretty.
The original copy of that record starts at 100€ at Discogs... though it could because of the track on the other side. I always preferred Blaze Theme Track myself. One of my favorite deep house tunes.

But tastes differ. I got no idea how anyone can like most of the stuff posted on this forum.
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Nothing wrong with ITB, i just think the stuff that is produced OTB is tougher thats all!
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@Looneytune - being a new user there's a button on your posts I should let you know about before someone else does. Starts with an E.. sounds like EDIT. No need to spam dude.
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@Looneytune - being a new user there's a button on your posts I should let you know about before someone else does. Starts with an E.. sounds like EDIT. No need to spam dude.
Oops sorry mang!
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FWIW 3 of my house music favorites (excuse the TERRIBLE youtube quality please?! )
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