Soundcloud Spamming

[nebelfrau]

Anybody making electronic music within the genres of dubstep, house, techno, "electronic", dubnic, NoHouse, housestep, techstep, watchyerstep, and so on are bound to be littered with spam... and the best part is is that you're asking for it. Why? Because every other person with a computer and the internet is making it and they alllll want to be famous. Even if you're the humble type, just doing your thing, not even trying to get out there or whatever, you'll still get spam.

What to do? Move to a commentless site or do it like a tape trader.

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by daverock

I think if you want to leave comments spamcloud should ensure the track has been listened to throughout. A small annoying hurdle if you want to add quick comments I know, but at least it's real. Either that or comments can be rated. Some moderation mechanism is needed.

this would be an easy hurdle for a bot to jump over, i would imagine. and a pain for the rest of us.
a CAPTCHA note system would defeat the spambots. implementation would have to be right or it would also be very annoying.

[spoinkel]

I'll follow you forever! ... if you follow me back.

[jdsowa]

The purpose of labels and radio stations is to bring disposable consumables to idiot teenagers. "Quality" doesn't enter into the equation. If a track has a high # of hits, it doesn't necessarily mean it will have mass appeal, but it does mean that the artist is capable of covering a great portion of your marketing effort, which, in these days of miniscule budgets is a highly desirable quality.

Music is in an especially sad state at present. In the past, a band had to go on tour and grind out shows. Not always pleasant, but at least you had camaraderie and the release of playing a show in front of people. Now, making music entails spending 8 hours a day at a computer, spamming friend requests, likes, comments, and whoring yourself out on kickstarter, groveling for donations, agreeing to do absolutely anything if only the person will just upgrade from the $25 donation to the $30.

[Goa-Dubs]

Originally Posted by msl

Its always been like that, just now with the web you see more of it easier maybe. Anyway you need to rediscover the love man. Thats what music is about. There is more amazing music out now than ever before, maybe negativity is stopping you from seeing it.


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It might seem like its always been like that but todays commercial is 1000 times more diluted than when i was hanging out even 1 or 2 or 3 decades ago..There seems to be the idea that we can have unlimited people and their ideas flooding every excessable orifice till we cant here even the sound of raindrops of the wind gently russling the leaves.Gone is miles davis/Bob Marley and Mrs Mills piano and hello cheap fl remix,digital as well.I just dont like it when everyone is playing pop modern commercial and it seems what i do is some kind of wierdo thing.Just want the real freaks to feel safe and happy again in this amazing world.When was the last time you saw a disabled person or spastic or an accident victim on the tv/radio or magazine with a recording /deal/contract.There aint any because society wants pretty trendy young things.Shallow and boring.Remember Ian Dury (polio)and Robert Wiate(wheelchair)great musicians.Where is that version now?Rant over........... edit-btw im an mid forties punker from age 10,ha ha what do you expect?

[loopback]

Originally Posted by Kindred

snip ...
I knew myspace was doomed when those programs came out which were 'automatic comment makers' or 'automatic friend adders'...not sure if such programs exist for soundcloud but that would be an ominous sign...

This is possible on Soundcloud too. I recieve 2-3 messages per month from guys that want to sell packages of listens to a specific track, followers or comments.

[Praxisaxis]

Originally Posted by Brassica

Comments totally spoil SoundCloud regardless. They're encouraging for the artist, but they really put me off listening to others music, especially when all I've heard is a bare 4/4 kick for 2 bars and "GENIUS!!!!!!" pops up.

Yeah I hate that. Looks like it's been addressed in the new soundcloud (the beta version does it differently)

[Praxisaxis]

Originally Posted by jdsowa

Now, making music entails spending 8 hours a day at a computer, spamming friend requests, likes, comments, and whoring yourself out on kickstarter, groveling for donations, agreeing to do absolutely anything if only the person will just upgrade from the $25 donation to the $30.

Of course that's not true of everyone... many of us support our creative stuff in other ways and feel no compulsion for any of that whatsoever.

[Praxisaxis]

The worst of the worst are the musical *****s who put tunes in their sigs on internet forums.

[dubmunkey]

Originally Posted by Praxisaxis

The worst of the worst are the musical *****s who put tunes in their sigs on internet forums.

+1

[teknatronik]

Originally Posted by Praxisaxis

The worst of the worst are the musical *****s who put tunes in their sigs on internet forums.

+2

[offki]

Originally Posted by Wildfunk

And what happens if you don't offer those 1.000 free downloads?

I'm sure after your "24-hour-free-download-promo" the track is all over the net for free.

No different from the tune being available via any other outlet.

[offki]

Originally Posted by Goa-Dubs

.When was the last time you saw a disabled person or spastic or an accident victim on the tv/radio or magazine with a recording /deal/contract.There aint any because society wants pretty trendy young things.

Erm, Guetta, Deadmouse, Skrillypoos, hardly attractive. Tiesto is probably below average too.




Lol. These the pretty young things you mean?

[Fluid Movement]

Originally Posted by Praxisaxis

The worst of the worst are the musical *****s who put tunes in their sigs on internet forums.

So true! Those guys are total idiots!

edit: wheres my sig??

[themachine]

Over the past week or two I've been getting spam followers - followers with nude women and no uploads. I haven't had that before grr

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[the donal]

Originally Posted by themachine

Over the past week or two I've been getting spam followers - followers with nude women and no uploads. I haven't had that before grr

Sent from my SK17i using Tapatalk 2

I think that SC is suffering a major bot problem now.

[Praxisaxis]

Originally Posted by teknatronik

+2

I was being ironic... but ah well :-)

[Goa-Dubs]

Originally Posted by offki

Erm, Guetta, Deadmouse, Skrillypoos, hardly attractive. Tiesto is probably below average too.




Lol. These the pretty young things you mean?

Apart from those slobs of course.Sort of folk you find down the job centre.Got lucky thats all.Imagine having their mugs on your album cover?

[Goa-Dubs]

Anyway folks i don wanna put anyone off ha ha,including meself.Jus put all your music into a grinder before you release it(an analog one)take that fake b...sh*t sheen off its face and kick it around the yard for a while.Maybe bury the tapes inna ground in a sacred spot for a year or so to tune the planets message through and invigorate them.You kno,do something constuctive for us listeners

[teknatronik]

Originally Posted by Praxisaxis

I was being ironic... but ah well :-)

hence, the +2 :P)

[modularjack]

A simple fix that would probably cut down a lot of the spam would be to disable links in comments. That is the worst of it IMO, like comment on the song fine don't steal traffic away from my stuff with your youtube & facebook links.

[Praxisaxis]

Another good option is for you yourself to not go trawling for followers and comments etc. Don't "follow" anyone unless you really do want to hear the next track they load up.

Keeping it real keeps most of your followers and comments genuine; people who you know - a small circle with similar tastes. OK, you'll have less followers and listeners, but any time your following increases it'll more likely be because other people are actually listening to your tunes. A boring strategy, perhaps, but more satisfying in the long run.

[Arthur Stone]

Originally Posted by Praxisaxis

Another good option is for you yourself to not go trawling for followers and comments etc. Don't "follow" anyone unless you really do want to hear the next track they load up.

Keeping it real keeps most of your followers and comments genuine; people who you know - a small circle with similar tastes. OK, you'll have less followers and listeners, but any time your following increases it'll more likely be because other people are actually listening to your tunes. A boring strategy, perhaps, but more satisfying in the long run.

+1

[Fluid Movement]

Originally Posted by Praxisaxis

Another good option is for you yourself to not go trawling for followers and comments etc. Don't "follow" anyone unless you really do want to hear the next track they load up.

Keeping it real keeps most of your followers and comments genuine; people who you know - a small circle with similar tastes. OK, you'll have less followers and listeners, but any time your following increases it'll more likely be because other people are actually listening to your tunes. A boring strategy, perhaps, but more satisfying in the long run.

I'm very lazy and don't have that much time to browse SC that much, so i generally just wait until someone follows me. I'll listen to their stuff and if i like it then i'll follow them. The only problem is with the ppl who follow you for like one day and then unfollow you.... This could be stopped easily by SC if they wanted to though.

[Arthur Stone]

Originally Posted by Fluid Movement

...I'll listen to their stuff and if i like it then i'll follow them. The only problem is with the ppl who follow you for like one day and then unfollow you...

IMO there are two issues here: first, no-one likes to feel 'cheated' which is what a 'fake-follow' does; second, if you like the music you follow then it's broadly irrelevant if you get followed by that artist.

I'd like to see maybe 3 filter options: people who's new releases I want to be informed about immediately (Priority 1), then people who's music I might like to browse if I have time (Priority 2), and people who I'm not that interested in (Priority 3).
This seems such a simple tool to implement I'm amazed SC haven't done this already; they risk losing it. Personally I don't use SC that much now as I can't find the music I like and it's becoming too spammy as a social communication network. I'm a paying customer too.

Doesn't seem much point in paying for a service I don't want to use.

[Lune]

Is there just a creative commons music sharing site where people can put up stuff and listen to other stuff without all the commercialism? In other words, a site for those who do it because they love it, versus those who are trying to make money off of it?

[nightmorph]

Originally Posted by Lune

Is there just a creative commons music sharing site where people can put up stuff and listen to other stuff without all the commercialism? In other words, a site for those who do it because they love it, versus those who are trying to make money off of it?

two big portals come to mind immediately:

archive.org. tons of netlabels put their CC stuff here.

freesound.org. more stuff done by folks for the love, and the samples & whatnot are also CC licensed.

to a lesser extent, bandcamp has a bunch of free music. be sure to check each release's license, though. i put my own albums & singles on bandcamp under CC licensing, because it is such an easy method of distribution. however, it doesn't have the built-in community features of soundcloud and other more social sites. it does have a section for artists to write up their own recommendations/reviews of other BC albums.

[Arthur Stone]

Originally Posted by Lune

Is there just a creative commons music sharing site where people can put up stuff and listen to other stuff without all the commercialism? In other words, a site for those who do it because they love it, versus those who are trying to make money off of it?

Soundcloud.

[szf]

I've gotten about 5 notifications that 'Scissor-Kill started following you'
over the past months... anyone else spammed by the same stupid notifications over and over

[Arthur Stone]

Originally Posted by szf

I've gotten about 5 notifications that 'Scissor-Kill started following you'
over the past months... anyone else spammed by the same stupid notifications over and over

Not now. I have notifications turned off in the preferences but I still get PM's. I just click on the 'report spam' button next to the user...with 10 million users Soundcloud will need to be notified before they can do anything about it. It's not really SC's fault but more a reflection on the peversion of human nature by the commercialisation of the 'friends' culture.

Most of the scams rely on Game Theory to work...if the spammer follows enough users then some will follow back. The only real protection is to only follow music you like or users who interest you.