Cosine waves warmer, fatter, deeper than Sine waves?

[evosilica]

This thread has great potential!

[Dave Peck]

Aahhh. Warm pi.

[taigareverie]

Sine wave is 90 degrees happier than cosine. Use cosines for dark music.

[HomeProducer]

Use Cosine Wave to avoid click with short attack

Your music will sound warmer

[evosilica]

be sure to use the latest version of pi though. there have been some updates recently to improve its warmth.

[taigareverie]

[edit] Oops. I destroyed teh Internets by quoting Pi to the millionth decimal place. I promise I will not play with Pi and cosines anymore.

[shponglefan]

I prefer e over pi. Gives it more grit.

[Brainchild]

You guys are NOT using digital Pi, I hope. Looking at taigareverie's post, I mean...look at that truncation. You can practically see the aliasing pouring off it. For that super round warmth, analog pi is the only way to go.

[The Real MC]

Joking aside, the early EML synths DID offer sine and cosine waveforms on the VCOs. When they hired a marketer he asked them why they designed waveforms that sound the same. The response was they looked different on the 'scope.

[gremlin moon]

Here is a sneak peak at a Reaktor Ensemble I am working on:

[taigareverie]

Originally Posted by The Real MC

Joking aside, the early EML synths DID offer sine and cosine waveforms on the VCOs.

FM synthesis was based on sine waves. Mess with VCOs, cosines and Pi and you get PiTA (Pi Total Analogue) synthesis. What's the point when FM was a PITA from the start? Or was PiTA the inspiration for FM? When was this EML synth introduced?

[Rimwolf]

I knew this thread would go off on tangents.

[The Beatsmith]

erm.... uhm... can't think of any relevant puns. puns are integral to any good gearslutz thread.

[ofajen]

Originally Posted by The Beatsmith

erm.... uhm... can't think of any relevant puns. puns are integral to any good gearslutz thread.

Yes, they are a sure sine of a great thread.

Otto

[cryophonik]

Cosines? Is that like having 2 sine waves and you detune them?...than what?

Originally Posted by taigareverie

FM synthesis was based on sine waves. Mess with VCOs, cosines and Pi and you get PiTA (Pi Total Analogue) synthesis. What's the point when FM was a PITA from the start? Or was PiTA the inspiration for FM? When was this EML synth introduced?

That made my morning.

[StringBean]

I cosine this thread

[cryophonik]

Originally Posted by The Beatsmith

erm.... uhm... can't think of any relevant puns. puns are integral to any good gearslutz thread.

Give me a secant and I'll come up with one for you.

[Boreal]

Wait.. aren't sin and cos waves how you make triangle wavs? And then if you add two of those you get rectangle wavs? (not square wavs rectangle wavs... much fatter.. I think Skrillex uses them to drop the bass?!?!?)

srry just trying 2 keep up

[zerocrossing]

The best tones can only be made when you mix sine and cosine waves of equal amplitude and frequency. So sweet.

[apres garde]

get a prophet vs for those sick vector drops

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by zerocrossing

The best tones can only be made when you mix sine and cosine waves of equal amplitude and frequency. So sweet.

These days I actually only listen to dubstep songs where the midrange bass does this.. sounds so much better than other sound creation techniques

[StringBean]

Originally Posted by zerocrossing

The best tones can only be made when you mix sine and cosine waves of equal amplitude and frequency. So sweet.

Dude I tried this and my song got a lot better. Thanks!

[HomeProducer]

Originally Posted by StringBean

I cosine this thread

lol!

[G. Kaye]

Tangent Bass FTW

[poonti]

Originally Posted by Boreal

Wait.. aren't sin and cos waves how you make triangle wavs? And then if you add two of those you get rectangle wavs? (not square wavs rectangle wavs... much fatter.. I think Skrillex uses them to drop the bass?!?!?)

srry just trying 2 keep up

this thread is proving once again that synth gearslutz are complete nerds

[gregwar]

detune 2 cosines than what ?

[quadrafunk]

I prefer floating point pi.

[acreil]

I only use complex exponentials.

[The Real MC]

Originally Posted by acreil

I only use complex exponentials.

Get real.