Studio Electronics Boomstar

[PapiBlack]

Originally Posted by asynchro_nous

I hope SE are considering a fifth model for a hundred clams (or so) more that would allow you to switch out the filter.

That would fill a unique niche in the growing new analog world.

YES.

The marketing major in me agrees with you 1000%. There is a HUGE "midi Monotron on steroids" market that is starving for something cheap.
If SE wants to spread its name and be in virtually every home studio, a $100 synth would do a lot to spread awareness and give a taste of what more expensive analogs from SE could do.

[zerocrossing]

Originally Posted by relis

Here's an old demo I made to represent ATC-X's filters.

Moog filter starts at 0:35, SEM (LP than HP) starts at 1:35, 303 starts at 2:35, ARP starts at 3:35.

All sounds from ATC-X except pad, which is Yamaha EX5. Delays and phaser are from Access Virus Classic. Reverb is TC M2000.


relis ATCX filters

Ack! Why did you post this?!! Now you've ignited G.A.S. that I thought I'd squashed. I have an ATC-1 with the Moog filter cart and I thought that maybe I'd eventually buy more carts but the way my studio is set up there's no way I'd easily be able to switch them (putting it on the back was a design FAIL) and the hardware switcher seems impossibile to find.

Maybe I should upgrade to an ATC-x. My ATC-1 is my favorite analog, so why not extend it? Is the full complement of filters the only thing you get when you go for the X?

[lovekrafty]

Originally Posted by PapiBlack

YES.

The marketing major in me agrees with you 1000%. There is a HUGE "midi Monotron on steroids" market that is starving for something cheap.
If SE wants to spread its name and be in virtually every home studio, a $100 synth would do a lot to spread awareness and give a taste of what more expensive analogs from SE could do.

Considering that the SE filters options for the Omega 8 cost alone a minimum of $120 plus change, I seriously doubt it would be cost effective for them to make a " Monotron" with interchangeable filters.

LK

[Ausgeno]

Originally Posted by PapiBlack

YES.

The marketing major in me agrees with you 1000%. There is a HUGE "midi Monotron on steroids" market that is starving for something cheap.
If SE wants to spread its name and be in virtually every home studio, a $100 synth would do a lot to spread awareness and give a taste of what more expensive analogs from SE could do.

He said $100 more, not just $100.

[SSquirrel]

Originally Posted by hogberto

nice ass kissing, that man!

If I was kissing his ass, wouldn't I also be saying how I was first in line to buy it? I'm not. He quoted me and his first words were hoping for no hate. Just making sure I was understood properly

[relis]

Originally Posted by zerocrossing

Maybe I should upgrade to an ATC-x. My ATC-1 is my favorite analog, so why not extend it? Is the full complement of filters the only thing you get when you go for the X?

You get analog distorsion effect, ring modulation and nicer look, too

Analog distorsion is mind blowing:

http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/...tcxand05rw.mp3

Korg 05RW pads and choirs.
ATCX kick, arpeggios, bass (with internal distorsion), slap



If ATC1 satisfies you, go for ATCX, you won't regret.

Originally Posted by Disease Factory

This demo makes me want a ATC, i wonder how good it does fast attack reso bass ate 145 bpm 16th notes?

I don't have it any more to test this, unfortunately.

[Disease Factory]

Studio Electronics SE1 vs ATC1 | synthvibrations.com

Is there any truth to this, it states the envs on the atc are snappier.

[Bio]

Originally Posted by crescentmoon

While its nice to see a new product, I would like SE to improve their current product line by offering timely software updates for the Omega 8 that I own. It has been 4 years since the last update. Calls and emails don't seem to work...

Don't say such a thing or you will be considered as a hater

Same here...

[Bio]

Originally Posted by Disease Factory

Studio Electronics SE1 vs ATC1 | synthvibrations.com

Is there any truth to this, it states the envs on the atc are snappier.

On mine they were a "little" snappier but still not enough.

I've had other synth with digital env like the DSI Evolver, still the enveloppes are much better in the Evolver.

There are plenty of digital enveloppes that are better than the SE one. Faster or with a better curve I don't know. (And VC-analogue enveloppe that allow you to SAVE PRESET like the Moog one etc... )

The problem with the "update" SE provided regarding the enveloppe is that it only affect the VCA. My problem was not just with the VCA enveloppe.

Still, look like they listen on their customers for their new synth :great thing.

[crufty]

Originally Posted by Analogia

There will ccs for control and a way to route the modwheel to filter cutoff.

awesome--you da man!

[LWG]

Originally Posted by Analogia

Please don't hate on us too much, but as it stands now, we're only going to
be able to offer two modes of the SEM filter, LP and BP. We've put a lot of
hardware into this box, and on this feature we're not be able to satisfy the desire that there be the same functionality as the original SEM filter. Can't do everything. We're keeping the signal path clean and free from electronic switching. To get the HP output for us would require just that, and we're out of pcb room for another pot and mix amp. Over budget also. There will ccs for control and a way to route the modwheel to filter cutoff. Updated specs and a new pic will be up soon. Thanks to your comments and clever minds, we have made some very nice improvements.

Face mask is on.

Greg St. Regis
Studio Electronics

Greg,

Congratulations on the new products. During the design phase
of these new machines, had you considered using a ring modulator
instead of the sub-octave generator?


Thanks,


-L

[Disease Factory]

Hope the new envs are better.

[massimo]

Originally Posted by LWG

Greg,

Congratulations on the new products. During the design phase
of these new machines, had you considered using a ring modulator
instead of the sub-octave generator?


Thanks,


-L

+1, especially for the "ARP" version, since that is an unmistakable part ot the original Odyssey sound. While I can see the different versions of the Boomstar are not born as clones of any specific machine of the past, which is brilliant, maybe a touch here and there (single different touches for different versions) would go a long way along with the different filter sound to recreate some of the idiosyncracies that made those "cornerstone" synths of the past sound as they did (....happy SE1 user for the past 18 years here...)

best regards

Massimo

[UH417]

Classy, +1 for the 4075.

[zerocrossing]

Originally Posted by relis

You get analog distorsion effect, ring modulation and nicer look, too

Analog distorsion is mind blowing:

http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/...tcxand05rw.mp3

Korg 05RW pads and choirs.
ATCX kick, arpeggios, bass (with internal distorsion), slap



If ATC1 satisfies you, go for ATCX, you won't regret.



I don't have it any more to test this, unfortunately.

Hey! I like the look of the ATC-1! All crayola colors... I don't even mind the one knob editing. I'm used to it... hell I even like it.

Thanks for the demo, I did see something about the distortion but I didn't know about the ring mod. That is good news. I think it's time to clear out a few pieces so that I can finally gone one of these.

[Analogia]

Originally Posted by Analogia

Please don't hate on us too much, but as it stands now, we're only going to
be able to offer two modes of the SEM filter, LP and BP...


Greg St. Regis
Studio Electronics

Update. The BoomStar SEM filter will have the same features as the original. A LP to HP mix pot and a switch for the BP output.

Greg
Studio Elelctronics

[asynchro_nous]

Greg, thanks for participating in the thread.

Will the BoomStars have polychaining capability?

[StringBean]

How do you play it? Do I have to buy another synth that has VCO output?

[Analogia]

Originally Posted by asynchro_nous

Greg, thanks for participating in the thread.

Will the BoomStars have polychaining capability?

Yes, with midi overflow.

[asynchro_nous]

Great news

[clusterchord]

Originally Posted by Analogia

Update. The BoomStar SEM filter will have the same features as the original. A LP to HP mix pot and a switch for the BP output.

Greg
Studio Elelctronics

that is positively AWESOME , and totally gets you in the race with other SEM clones or reissues, esp considering your price range, and other features/goodies you added..

if every Boomstar version has something unique to it (i mean, besides filter)... its gonna be like baseball cards... or pokemon ... you GOTTA HAVE EM ALL

and in light of that, as someone mentioned few posts back, could you possibly give us a Ring Modulator on the ARP filter version, instead of the Sub Oscillator ??

it just goes with ARP territory so well.. be it 2600 or Oddy.... and if you do, use the clone of 4014 discrete version (not the chips everyone else uses, like AD633 etc). .. i know, i know, price range limits... just had to ask, since were talking here..




regards, and big thanks for sticking arround GS.



PS will 303 version have accent IN and glide on/off IN ? i believe that is indispensable for any succesful XoX emulation.

[BillyRayJoeBob]

Originally Posted by clusterchord

that is positively AWESOME , and totally gets you back in the race with other SEM clones or reissues, esp considering your price range, and other features/goodies you added..

as someone mentioned few posts back, could you possibly give us a Ring Modulator on the ARP filter version, instead of the Sub Oscillator ??

it just goes with ARP territory so well.. be it 2600 or Oddy.... and if you do, use the clone of 4014 discrete version (not the chip everyone else used) .. i know,i know... just had to ask, since were talking here..

if every version has something unique to it... its gonna be like baseball cards... or pokemon ... you GOTTA HAVE EM ALL. nes pas?





regards, and big thanks for sticking arround GS.

What he said!!

[Lovebot]

It's probably too late in the design stage but sliders for the Arp version would also invoke a more authentic interfacing experience. ;-)

[BillyRayJoeBob]

You know I was going to bring up sliders. Then I thought to myself that now I'm just being silly. So Loveboat, Thank you.

[Eric J]

This or the new Oberheim SEM? Sure the SEM is $200 more, but which will sound better?

[CarlV]

Analogia, it's really awesome for you to come interact here. Can I ask if you all have a release date in mind? Also, what will the "dynamics" knob do?

[himalaya]

Originally Posted by Eric J

This or the new Oberheim SEM? Sure the SEM is $200 more, but which will sound better?

The SE SEM will offer a wider palette of sounds, thanks to the dual waveform selector for oscillator 1, as well as the sub osc, overdrive and lots of LFO waves (glad to see those!) . As to the sound, that remains to be seen/heard.

[Analogia]

Originally Posted by CarlV

Analogia, it's really awesome for you to come interact here. Can I ask if you all have a release date in mind? Also, what will the "dynamics" knob do?

Release date is set for first part of May. Dynamics is for dynamics to Env1. Something we did on the MidiMoog and love to this day. Great way to get expressive filter control. Now I am going to please even more of you. We've added ring modulation. Along the bottom row we now have a mixer section which reads: Feedback, Noise, Osc1, Osc2 and Rmod. Took off the patch out for Env2, sorry patch point lovers.

Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. Without the virtual pre announcement, we would have missed out on some cool features. Not something we've done before. I think we're maxed out now... Ringmod was cheap though, same one we use in the SE-1. Nice and smooth. I'll get cheesy now and use a

Greg St. Regis
Studio Electronics

[Rust Creep]

Feature list is impressive. Im more concerned with patchable inputs than outs though an out for ring is really handy.

Whats the scoop on the oscillators? There a big difference between my new SEM and XS even though both are discrete SMT

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[clusterchord]

Originally Posted by Analogia

Release date is set for first part of May. Dynamics is for dynamics to Env1. Something we did on the MidiMoog and love to this day. Great way to get expressive filter control. Now I am going to please even more of you. We've added ring modulation. Along the bottom row we now have a mixer section which reads: Feedback, Noise, Osc1, Osc2 and Rmod. Took off the patch out for Env2, sorry patch point lovers.

Thank you all for your comments and suggestions. Without the virtual pre announcement, we would have missed out on some cool features. Not something we've done before. I think we're maxed out now... Ringmod was cheap though, same one we use in the SE-1. Nice and smooth. I'll get cheesy now and use a

Greg St. Regis
Studio Electronics

but of course, i totally forgot you already had ring mod on SE and ATCX.... indeed its a nice sounding ring mod design.. atcx ringmod - moog filter