23rd March 2012
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#31 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 226
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Originally Posted by Dubber hahaha but YOU are sitting every day at the studios of dr. luke, redone etc. and know 1000000% that they are NOT doing their own patches
this is so funny that some guys here know all the secrets of the top producers
it's not so hard to create an own patch within some minutes WHEN you know what you are doing. but nobody trust the top producers to do this... and then i ask you: WHY are they top producers? because they can tweak nexus presets? sure not | Okay you win boss. I never said I do not create my own patches. It is a mix of the two. I sometimes search for presets and tweak from there. I never use a preset as is. I also combine sounds to create new textures. I also sometimes create sounds from scratch. But to each his own. I concentrate on writing songs. I don't care about using presets or not. I am only trying to write good songs. So I guess our mindset is different.
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23rd March 2012
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#32 | | Gear addict
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 373
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I concentrate on writing songs as well, but it really only takes 30 seconds or so to dial up a sound from init on a synth you're very familiar with.
So because of that I don't feel it presents a long enough time expenditure to be worried about a loss of inspiration or even a general marked extension of overall time spent on the part.
So, if you're comfortable with that particular synth it's pretty much a non-issue, no?
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23rd March 2012
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#33 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 216
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don't have Nexus, but I'd get it for the slap bass that everyone says is really good in it
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23rd March 2012
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#34 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 215
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Originally Posted by Skallawa I never said I do not create my own patches. It is a mix of the two. I sometimes search for presets and tweak from there. | and i never said "do not use presets!". i use presets too but only instruments which i can't recreate (m1 piano for example).
but i would never skip through hundreds of nexus presets and looking for a special sound.
all the big guys got their own sample/patch pool growed over the years. so they don't depend on nexus or whatever. Quote:
Originally Posted by Skallawa I concentrate on writing songs. I don't care about using presets or not. I am only trying to write good songs. So I guess our mindset is different. | i start with an init patch and create a lead... and while tweaking it the melody usually arises  so i got the perfect sound with the perfect melody
but i know some people play a perfect melody first and then browse hours for the perfect preset Quote:
Originally Posted by Ohx I concentrate on writing songs as well, but it really only takes 30 seconds or so to dial up a sound from init on a synth you're very familiar with. | yes and you build up the sound from scratch so can you can easily tweak it. if choosing a preset with many layers you'll get mixing problems later.
but most musicians are bad sound designers so they skip this step and rather use presets.
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23rd March 2012
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#35 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Recording Studio Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,764
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Inorder to program your own sounds, u need good taste and the right skill sets. As long as ur having fun making music, then ur on the right path.
Been said before, but one doesn't need to build a piano from scratch to afford the lush sound of recorded pianos. From this perspective,the end result; having the right sound for the right part is what really counts most.
Implying that nexus is some what limited (as a programmeable synth) due to its ROMPler design is correct factually if ur a sound designer. Ergo, sound designers don't really use nexus to design sounds. However, from music producer's POV, nexus 2 is liberating and inspirational due to its ready made kickin phat presets.
Lastly, from the public's POV, they wouldn't know what synth made what sound, they just want great songs/great productions.
My view is that nexus to is somewhat tailored for hi-end pop producers who need quick bread and butter sounds. It contains everything u'd possibly need to start work on a hit song and keeps thing flowing. Coupled with other hi-end end programmeable synths, there's all ur basis covered.
There's nothing wrong about designing ur own synth sounds - if u can.
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24th March 2012
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#36 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 212
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Avicii is the epitome of a Nexus user.
Sent from my DROID Pro using Gearslutz App
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12th October 2012
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#37 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2011 Location: Norway
Posts: 519
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Nexus has it´s useful moments yes.
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15th October 2012
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#38 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: stockholm
Posts: 1,196
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Heyclown Nexus has it´s useful moments yes. |
there is so much better stuff out there
that i use.
remember nexus is nothing more then sampled hardware
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15th October 2012
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#39 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2011 Location: Norway
Posts: 519
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I have A LOT of better soft synths. But I still use Nexus. Especially when songwriting a new song on songwriter camps and such. It´s quick and CPU efficient and have a lot of overdone delay and reverb presets that is easy to adjust fast.
And the pianos in Nexus is some of the most instant dance-production pianos I know of.
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16th October 2012
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#40 | | Gear addict
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 423
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i used it a lot, its really good, it might as well be a full on sampler. it past the rompler category, i thought in general it sounded great , its like 90% virus sounds, not a lot u can do with the sounds besides filter and effects,,,,, great arp though,,,, if i ever start using software again i will re-install it,
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16th October 2012
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#41 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Location Location
Posts: 910
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Originally Posted by Myrok Rolles it's expensive as all hell and buying the add on packs makes me feel sick to my stomach because half of the stuff is complete garbage. that being said i f*cking love nexus. | LMAO.
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16th October 2012
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#42 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 978
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Originally Posted by sbackdoor I think you're mistaking "pro producers" with "artists". | an all too common mistake these days  Nexus
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24th October 2012
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#43 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: stockholm
Posts: 1,196
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i like nexus and its easy to use and good for go for ready presets...
but its sounds and especially reverb and delays are so overrated and generic
i think nexus has its own special sound you can easily recognize in a record.
i do this all the time now if someone uses nexus...
but nexus is good for beginners.. in my opinion.
when is nexus3 coming out?
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24th October 2012
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#44 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: stockholm
Posts: 1,196
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Heyclown I have A LOT of better soft synths. But I still use Nexus. Especially when songwriting a new song on songwriter camps and such. It´s quick and CPU efficient and have a lot of overdone delay and reverb presets that is easy to adjust fast.
And the pianos in Nexus is some of the most instant dance-production pianos I know of. | what better softsynths? would you like to share?
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24th October 2012
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#45 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: stockholm
Posts: 1,196
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by AcoosticZoo
There's nothing wrong about designing ur own synth sounds - if u can. | it can be fun to do that, but very TIME CONSUMING and sometimes very painful.
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24th October 2012
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#46 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: stockholm
Posts: 1,196
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Originally Posted by mat1 IMO the song is more important than having 100% unique sounds. If Nexus allows you to write a song easier and display it in its best light then it's worth the money.
There's nothing to stop you swapping it out for another synth at a later date once the actual writing bit is done. | there is many popular sounds in NEXUS if you really dig deep into it you will realize many famous sounds.. like infinity, the hitmen leads, discotronic leads, marcel woods advanced leads, darude leads and so on.. cascada buzzer saws and bells.
and lately ManuelSchleis has been doing millenium pop expansions which are really cool i think but they also have many famous sounds like katy perry, britney and so on..
not bad.. but then we have useless expansions like future arps. totaly fail
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25th October 2012
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#47 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2007 Location: Emeryville CA
Posts: 1,992
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Here's the deal. Nexus is great if you want to pay to have someone else do most or all of the synth sound design for you and you just want to get down to arranging. There are many ways of getting there more cheaply though as many commercial synths come with great presets and have expansion packs available for less than what Nexus costs.
Let's face it, the odds of you "making it" regardless as to whether or not you make your own sounds from scratch is next to nothing anyway, so basically each person has to do what they enjoy the most. Good music has a lot more to do with composition than unique sound design, though a lot of people disagree with that. It's the reason so much dance music these days sounds like preset demo tracks.
That said, when you find someone who's great at sound design and composition it's a beautiful thing and can really help move your music to the next level. Not that many will ever hear it, but you'll get the satisfaction and that's all that matters. So regardless as to whether or not you get Nexus and just use the presets or put together modulars and custom make each patch from scratch, make sure you love what you're doing because nothing else really matters.
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30th October 2012
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#48 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: stockholm
Posts: 1,196
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whats the point in buying a access virus hardware synth if they sample from it and put into nexus? you get the same sounds if u have nexus |
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30th October 2012
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#49 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2010 Location: Great White North
Posts: 2,236
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Originally Posted by nznexus whats the point in buying a access virus hardware synth if they sample from it and put into nexus? you get the same sounds if u have nexus  | I dunno. What's the point of buying a violin when you can just buy a violin sample pack? |
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30th October 2012
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#50 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,461
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will NEXUS make me sound like MAX MARTIN????????QUESTIONMARK?????
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30th October 2012
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#51 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2011 Location: Norway
Posts: 519
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This tread made me dive i to Nexus 2 and my expansions again. Found a lot of cool leads, basses and arps that I havent seen before. Guess I have too many plug-in's.
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30th October 2012
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#52 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Sep 2011 Location: Home
Posts: 213
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It has a demo, soundfiles galore, preset lists online. Why not try it and see if you like it or not?
....It's just another plugin synth, with all the advantages and disadvantages that brings. This one has the feel of a workstation module, one oriented but not exclusively geared toward dance and contemporary music, one which samples decent sources and presents them, giftwrapped, without the need to spend time creating them from scratch. If crunk-country-psypop-reggae were the next big thing, there'd be a high quality sample pack around the corner with a selection of appropriate sounds ready to go.
Of course, you can edit the sounds on a Motif or a JV1080, but as a time-served owner of both it was never analogue-pretty. I can count on one hand the number of times I didn't feel the JV stock palette wasn't enough. I bought more ROMS for the JV than I have for Nexus, too - and they're a damn sight cheaper and easier to install in modern software.
Some folks don't like Nexus - and ReFX have some history over on KVR so there's some bad blood around - but frankly even if you don't like it you have to admire that it serves a purpose and fills a niche in the market. Job done.
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30th October 2012
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#53 | | Gear interested
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 24
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Hey nznexus, did you pay for Nexus? I know what my guess is...
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30th October 2012
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#54 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: stockholm
Posts: 1,196
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Persemone Some folks don't like Nexus - and ReFX have some history over on KVR so there's some bad blood around - but frankly even if you don't like it you have to admire that it serves a purpose and fills a niche in the market. Job done. | Nexus is for noobs. its full of presets - ripped from hardware. if you cant afford yourself a real motif or virus... nexus.
but you will never ever use all these presets for your songs. too many to chose from.
i know better plugins then nexus. nexus sounds awful.. you know what i mean? maybe the only good is the pads in nexus.
i stopped using nexus since last year.
now go rate this comment down as you usually do.
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30th October 2012
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#55 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Sep 2011 Location: Home
Posts: 213
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????
...Maybe there'a language thing here, or maybe I'm twice your age. Either way, I like Nexus, use it regularly and know when maybe it's time to use something else.
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30th October 2012
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#56 | | Gear addict
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 423
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the drums are really good on nexus, i havent found any sample pack that has better ones,
nexus to me is for those times when i dont wanna get too deep into things, just mess around a bit, have some decent sounds right there, if thing start getting good, then you add the original sounding synths and stuff, but i think its generally a pretty good sounding plug,,,,, but i can understand the disdain a bit, ideally sounds and songs shouldn't just be a few presets arranged in the general form of a song u heard on the radio,,, those sounds originally had a context, an idea behind them,,,, but with nexus you take all the creativity out of it, the sounds are almost out of context,
how much of the creativity is someone going to allow to come from someone else?
its like taking a famous painting and just changing the color and turning it upside down and then claiming its an original piece,
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30th October 2012
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#57 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2011 Location: Norway
Posts: 519
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Originally Posted by nznexus Nexus is for noobs | Your beloved Dr Luke uses Nexus. |
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30th October 2012
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#58 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: stockholm
Posts: 1,196
Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by Persemone ????
...Maybe there'a language thing here, or maybe I'm twice your age. Either way, I like Nexus, use it regularly and know when maybe it's time to use something else. | Maybe. And what is you using nexus for? Pop? electro?
If you use nexus you sound like everyone else.
i dont want to sound like everyone else. i want to have my own special sound..
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30th October 2012
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#59 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 126
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Nexus is good for the pianos and strings, thats what I use them for.
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30th October 2012
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#60 | | 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended.
Joined: Oct 2010 Location: stockholm
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Thread Starter | Quote:
Originally Posted by dionysiananarchy the drums are really good on nexus, i havent found any sample pack that has better ones,
, | the drums are good on nexus? are you joking me? i hope you are not serious.
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