What's the best host for hard/soft synth automation?
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What's the best host for hard/soft synth automation?

I just wasted three days of my life recording into Sonar X1, only to figure out that I can't copy/paste the automation parameters of my synths, and I'm about to chunk the computer through the nearest window. It's been a while since I've used other hosts. Automation is one of the foundations of my work, and I can't live without it.

I'm not looking for this to turn into a host pissing contest, but I'd like opinions on what works for you. After reading up on gearslutz, I'm leaning towards either Reaper or Cubase 6, with Cubase 6 in the current lead. But, info on the automation of any host is appreciated.

Edit: I'm on Windows 7, 64bit.
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Huh? Have you looked at the edit filters for the envelopes?
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Don't buy anything before you give the demo of Reaper a shot. You can basically use it without limitations forever, you only buy it out of courtesy.

I use Reaper myself and I absolutely love it. Although it isn't the most powerful thing in terms of automation, it is incredibly easy to use. And there are updates constantly.

Also, automation items are a very popular feature request and will probably be implemented eventually.

Reaper IMO is the most versatile DAW out there, and it is incredibly powerful and bloat free (especially on Windows).

Cubase, you'll find, has a lot of bloat that comes with it.
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I can only comment on the ones i personally use.

Studio One: Automation is almost to easy, just like anything else you want to do. My favorite.
Cubase 5.5.3: A close second.
Ableton: Worth mentioning.
Pro Tools: A living hell.
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S1. It's brilliant for tracking mixing and mastering. Can't fault it.
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Yes, Automation is sooo easy with StudioOne, touch any fader, knob, curve, anything, and grab the hand symbol from the parameter box, drag it to a track and tweak your automation curve, done. It doesn't get any better than that.

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I displayed ignorance and a lack of due diligence in the post that formally occupied this space.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aktuator View Post
One could argue that Reason's is even easier, or at minimum nearly the same.

Hold alt, click parameter. Done.
except you uh, are limited to automating things that are part of reason

good luck automating hardware.. there's no midi out.. still.
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except you uh, are limited to automating things that are part of reason

good luck automating hardware.. there's no midi out.. still.
Indeed, moreover my post was very out of place because the OP was specific in his needs of a host for third party software and external hardware.

I apologize and will remove it.
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I used reaper for a year. Just switched to cubase because of slow midi automation - to cubase. Couldn't be happier with the switch.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I'm going to grab some demos and do some tests.
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