mixer main outs ---> ???? ----> recording device

[blinky909]

mixer main outs ---> ???? ----> recording device

what goes between the mixer main outs and before the recording device for those of us with beer budgets.

[oldgearguy]

Originally Posted by blinky909

mixer main outs ---> ???? ----> recording device

what goes between the mixer main outs and before the recording device for those of us with beer budgets.

a couple of HOSA cables?



what exactly are you looking for?

[Mardi Gras]

drawmer 1968 > Drawmer 1961 might cool.

You'll just have to give up drinking for 6-8 months

[oldgearguy]

in all seriousness, I'd delay any additional 2 bus processing until after it's in the DAW/recording device.

Some engineers mix to the 2 bus compression (IOW - slap the compressor on the main outs and listen to that while mixing), but if you're going that route, you'd need some beer++ budget gear. No point in running a great mix through sub-par gear on the way to the recorder.

Apply stuff to the individual tracks or subgroups to taste and do the rest ITB or when it gets mastered.

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by Mardi Gras

You'll just have to give up drinking for 6-8 months

yeah, that ain't gonna happen.

Originally Posted by oldgearguy

Apply stuff to the individual tracks or subgroups to taste and do the rest ITB or when it gets mastered.

what you are saying is to take a decent sounding mix, record it back as a stereo track, than clean and process that as the studio mix to be mastered? did the gear guy just tell me to eschew gear

[erikdrink]

Originally Posted by oldgearguy

a couple of HOSA cables?

[golden beers]

this is when as daw is super handy because you can just record it dry and then bounce it out again to your mixer or any outboard process. you dont have to commit to print at the record stage.

i wouldnt go with a drawmer 196x because of coloration + noise

i would go with the drawmer dl251 as it has a really useful enhancer circuit that brightens the signal with heavy compression so you dont get your hats dropping out when you push the compressor hard (unless you want to). and its a transparent quality compressor. you would have to go for s/h if you only have beer money.


also would be nice to have a parametric eq in the chain, but you cant do that on beer money!

you might like to try an SPL vitalizer.. really great for widening and enhancing.. and cheap (if you can grab a s/h jack version, i got mine for £30)

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by oldgearguy

a couple of HOSA cables?

don't forget, i know were you live

and the last time i was there, i got four 8 channel snakes!

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by golden beers

you might like to try an SPL vitalizer.. really great for widening and enhancing.. and cheap (if you can grab a s/h jack version, i got mine for £30)

i was looking at an SPL vitalizer, thanks for the confirmation. i'm not a very good production engineer and anything that can help me without having to work exhaustively ITB is good.

i would like to have a decent final product that i can send out to be professionally mastered. this is my hobby, not my vocation. i don't do tile and i don't mastering, there are highly skilled people who can do that better than i ever could.

[oldgearguy]

Originally Posted by blinky909

yeah, that ain't gonna happen.



what you are saying is to take a decent sounding mix, record it back as a stereo track, than clean and process that as the studio mix to be mastered? did the gear guy just tell me to eschew gear

Even less than that. Take a decent sounding stereo mix from your board directly into the DAW and send it off to be mastered. If it's not going to go to mastering, use ITB processing to try different compression/EQ and get it to where you like it. Minimize the number of trips in and out of the computer and try to use EQ mainly for cutting ITB rather than boosting.

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by oldgearguy

Even less than that. Take a decent sounding stereo mix from your board directly into the DAW and send it off to be mastered. If it's not going to go to mastering, use ITB processing to try different compression/EQ and get it to where you like it. Minimize the number of trips in and out of the computer and try to use EQ mainly for cutting ITB rather than boosting.

ok, that makes sense, but what device in that setup has this:

[oldgearguy]

Originally Posted by blinky909

ok, that makes sense, but what device in that setup has this:

I didn't realize you were composing Top 40 dance pop. my bad.

Waves L2



Back in the day, Front 242 just hit the tape machine harder.

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by oldgearguy

I didn't realize you were composing Top 40 dance pop.

and i thought you were my friend.

Originally Posted by oldgearguy

Front 242 just hit the tape machine harder

[oldgearguy]

Originally Posted by blinky909

and i thought you were my friend.

I'm here for you man. Need a construction kit?

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by oldgearguy

I'm here for you man. Need a construction kit?

hey look, all four of your car tires got slashed, that sucks.

[oldgearguy]

Originally Posted by blinky909

hey look, all four of your car tires got slashed, that sucks.

I remembered - you're now doing Tangerine Dream inspired trance music.

Since I'm stuck here until AAA arrives with new tires, I composed some stuff you can use.

Here you go:

bip - bip - bip - beeep - bip - bip - bip - beeep - bip - bip - bip - beeep - bippity - bippity - bippity - bop (x 1000)

if you're doing it live, make sure you have a very disaffected look on your face and one hand on the filter cutoff knob. Actually turning the knob is optional.

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by oldgearguy

I remembered - you're now doing Tangerine Dream inspired trance music.

Since I'm stuck here until AAA arrives with new tires, I composed some stuff you can use.

Here you go:

bip - bip - bip - beeep - bip - bip - bip - beeep - bip - bip - bip - beeep - bippity - bippity - bippity - bop (x 1000)

if you're doing it live, make sure you have a very disaffected look on your face and one hand on the filter cutoff knob. Actually turning the knob is optional.

can i borrow your silver ass-less chaps and 101 mod grip for my live set?


thanks Tom, now get back to work

[oldgearguy]

Originally Posted by blinky909

can i borrow your silver ass-less chaps and 101 mod grip for my live set?


thanks Tom, now get back to work

Taking me way back. We've probably just lost 99% of the readers. Where is LX when you need him, not to mention Mr808.

For grins, I'll sometimes go back and read some of those early posts from those forums.

The difference is striking - much more humor, much less bashing. Still the same lame-ass questions about syncing up 303's, etc., but the level of discourse was higher. I guess analog was newer back then.

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by oldgearguy

I guess analog was newer back then.

do you know where i can get a Mini for $200.00? i'm in highschool and don't have much money

i miss DACC the most.

[oldgearguy]

Originally Posted by blinky909

do you know where i can get a Mini for $200.00? i'm in highschool and don't have much money

i miss DACC the most.

Let me pull out my modem and dial into the BBS. I think I saw a guy selling one in Dundalk...

DACC is still around

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by oldgearguy

Let me pull out my modem and dial into the BBS.

so i need to just run my main outs into the computer and upload that to Compuserve over my ISDN line, got it. see you back in 1992.