WTF'ing F is going on with this device? (modular gearlust)

[casiosk1]

"WMD Devices Gamma Wave Source Eurorack Module"

WMD Gamma Wave Source - YouTube

[boon]

Wavetable oscillator with some nice modulation destinations. Check their website for details

[casiosk1]

Is this similar to the Piston Honda?

[NEXUS-6]

Originally Posted by casiosk1

WTF'ing F is going on with this device? (modular gearlust)

Its a 16 min tweak fest with no music being made, not unusual for those modular folks...

[boon]

Originally Posted by NEXUS-6

Its a 16 min tweak fest with no music being made, not unusual for those modular folks...

it's a demonstration of the module and the sounds it can make.

[boon]

Originally Posted by casiosk1

Is this similar to the Piston Honda?

they're both wavetable oscillators but they have many differences. i don't own either of them but if you read up on them you'll see where the differences are.

[Don Solaris]

Originally Posted by casiosk1

WMD Gamma Wave Source - YouTube

I bet it can make the Jump patch.

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by Don Solaris

I bet it can make the Jump patch.

yeah...eventually but it's pretty random - jump into... what?

The sound of WMD I like very much. It's a particular kind of digital filth, to use in (analogue) patches. Sort of like "The Harverstman", "Trogotronic" or "Flight of Harmony" modules, but then different. The guy said he's designing circuits by ear, using an intuïtive approach. Using my WMD "Geiger Counter" I believe him. To do such a thing and expect large volume sales (Roland, Yamaha, Creative, M-Audio) is impossible. All of this may already be clear to you, but I'll mention it anyway: these modules cover a niche, for those trying to get their particular sound.
I think what WMD are trying to do, is to find that "sweetspot" (or dirtyspot LOL) where gear starts to have some mind of their own. The signal processing (bitcrusher) modules work very well with regular synths as well, just take care of levels (modular in and output is hotter than normal synths), and some midi-cv control if you want automation, or control from the midi keyboard.
Judging from the demos it's a wavetable oscillator, that doesn't have much smoothing going on, and is not trying to be very polite. Alternatives would be the The Harvestman Piston Honda (made of awesome), and the much more beautiful sounding MOTM e350, as well as the upcoming eurorack reïssue of the classic Malekko Wiard "Super Mini-wave".
They all have some special madness IMO. Take your pick.

[casiosk1]

I need a drool cup.

[NEXUS-6]

Here's a more interesting video it shows whats really going on



On a side note I really like this kind of stuff but I don't think I would ever get any work done if I started building a modular set up...

[OK USA]

I watched all 15 minutes... Waiting for a drop. Is there a second video with a drop or something?

[BM0]

R2D2 translator module?

Seriously, looks like it can create some crazy timbres.

[boon]

Originally Posted by OK USA

I watched all 15 minutes... Waiting for a drop. Is there a second video with a drop or something?

yes of course. everything is shit w/o a drop so i'm sure there is a drop somewhere.

[Franc]

This is exactly what I need for my lounge act when I play Muskrat Love.

Captain & Tennille MUSKRAT LOVE - YouTube

BTW - what is he playing at 3:34 doing the Muskrat sounds. Looks like a odd looking white face ARP Odyessy MK 1/2. This is circa 1980.

[Franc]

Originally Posted by boon

yes of course. everything is shit w/o a drop so i'm sure there is a drop somewhere.

LOL!

[soundsubs]

i believe the "drop" is at 1:05
Went by manmademadman

[Reptil]

Oh, one thing to consider is to get some kind of module to control the center voltage of the signals used for modulation (an offset generator).
It already has an attennuator on the CV inputs.

It's much easier to control with that: So, pair it with a doepfer a-129-3 or a-183-2 or equivalent. Offset generators should be in any serious modular system anyway.

wait for the

[renderful]

Gamma Wave Source is awesome!

The Makenoise Phonogene is my most lusted after module: concrete music for the people

I guess I need to get a TipTop Happy Ending kit, soon.

[Reptil]

so far I've somehow managed to resist the urge to get a Phonogene
it'd be perfect with a JAG and Noisering.
aaarggh must.fight.urge

[casiosk1]

Originally Posted by Reptil

Oh, one thing to consider is to get some kind of module to control the center voltage of the signals used for modulation (an offset generator).
It already has an attennuator on the CV inputs.

It's much easier to control with that: So, pair it with a doepfer a-129-3 or a-183-2 or equivalent. Offset generators should be in any serious modular system anyway.

wait for the

Can I use my current A-170 (Dual Slew Limiter) for this purpose? I'm currently only using the top half of it, leaving the bottom half free.

[audioconsult]

Originally Posted by NEXUS-6

Here's a more interesting video it shows whats really going on



On a side note I really like this kind of stuff but I don't think I would ever get any work done if I started building a modular set up...

looks a bit like a reaktor patch turned in hardware

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by casiosk1

Can I use my current A-170 (Dual Slew Limiter) for this purpose? I'm currently only using the top half of it, leaving the bottom half free.

no a slew limiter is a (simple) lowpass filter that smoothes stepped waveforms, it won't bring an lfo "up" to a certain level.
what I mean is that you add a voltage to raise an LFO (or substract it if you want it "lowered") .
this can be done with (any) voltage source:
example:
say an LFO has a center of +1 volt and a vertical amplitude of 1 volt; that means the bottom of the LFO reaches 0 Volt, and the top reaches +2 Volts.
now say that the waves on the wavetable osc. are to be adressed at +3 Volts till +4,5 Volts, you'd have to add 2,5 volts at least to reach the desired voltage to adress this wave through the CV in of the recieving module. Simple right?
I.o.w. you shift the LFO upward by adding an EQUAL amount of voltage to the whole.
Now you want the LFO to swing from +3 volts to +4,5 volts (because otherwise you'd trigger waveforms in the recieving module that you don't want), this means you have to use an LFO that has a center freq of +3,75 V and swings 0.75 Volt up and 0,75 Volt down. This means you have to substract from the existing LFO first, using an attennuator (you can use a mixer as well, the center frequency will not change, but the swing; the AMPLITUDE of the LFO's waveform will.

In layman's terms, you make the LFO "smaller", and then move the whole thing "up" or "down" the voltage range (on a scope, electrons of course don't know up or down) by adding positive or negative voltage to it.
for this you could use a simple a-176 voltage source module, but you'd have to "dail in" that amount by hand
Here's another module that does exactly this: Dual Index - however it can be automated itself with it's CV input: it's a VCA.
Pittsburgh Modular - Dual Index

[casiosk1]

Originally Posted by Reptil

no a slew limiter is a (simple) lowpass filter that smoothes stepped waveforms, it won't bring an lfo "up" to a certain level.
what I mean is that you add a voltage to raise an LFO (or substract it if you want it "lowered") .
this can be done with (any) voltage source:
example:
say an LFO has a center of +1 volt and a vertical amplitude of 1 volt; that means the bottom of the LFO reaches 0 Volt, and the top reaches +2 Volts.
now say that the waves on the wavetable osc. are to be adressed at +3 Volts till +4,5 Volts, you'd have to add 2,5 volts at least to reach the desired voltage to adress this wave through the CV in of the recieving module. Simple right?
I.o.w. you shift the LFO upward by adding an EQUAL amount of voltage to the whole.
Now you want the LFO to swing from +3 volts to +4,5 volts (because otherwise you'd trigger waveforms in the recieving module that you don't want), this means you have to use an LFO that has a center freq of +3,75 V and swings 0.75 Volt up and 0,75 Volt down. This means you have to substract from the existing LFO first, using an attennuator (you can use a mixer as well, the center frequency will not change, but the swing; the AMPLITUDE of the LFO's waveform will.

In layman's terms, you make the LFO "smaller", and then move the whole thing "up" or "down" the voltage range (on a scope, electrons of course don't know up or down) by adding positive or negative voltage to it.
for this you could use a simple a-176 voltage source module, but you'd have to "dail in" that amount by hand
Here's another module that does exactly this: Dual Index - however it can be automated itself with it's CV input: it's a VCA.
Pittsburgh Modular - Dual Index

Does any of this apply if I simply want to use the Gamma Wave as a sound ****er-upper and not worried about the module properly tracking?

[casiosk1]

Making room for a new addition in a week or so

[acreil]

Originally Posted by Reptil

no a slew limiter is a (simple) lowpass filter that smoothes stepped waveforms

Actually slew is a nonlinear distortion that limits the maximum rate of change.

[Reptil]

Originally Posted by casiosk1

Does any of this apply if I simply want to use the Gamma Wave as a sound ****er-upper and not worried about the module properly tracking?

This Wave Source is effectively a voltage source, and has no audio inputs.

Have a look at these modules for digital filth and fukk-uppery.
You could alternatively opt for a Trogotronic M-666, Toppobrillo Triple Wave Folder etc.

Originally Posted by acreil

Actually slew is a nonlinear distortion that limits the maximum rate of change.

yes

[casiosk1]

O well as you can tell by the picture I took of the gap in my Doepfer case, I'm gonna bareback it.

[Reptil]

lol
WMD Geiger counter also good!