Com Truise - Futureworld - how it's done

[jackdamery]

Ok so, I just spent 15 minutes trying to recreate the hook from Com Truise's 'Futureworld'. Tell me what you think, have any of you tried to recreate some of his sounds?

Com Truise - Futureworld (Remake) by F*CK-M*FFIN on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

Here's a link to the original song

Com Truise - Futureworld - YouTube

[golden beers]

nothing like it mate.. i think it is a case when we can definitely say you need some analogue goodies to produce that... but thanks for sharing, the Com Truise track is really nice!

[flextone]

I tend to disagree. Did you hear anything on that track you can't do ITB? Sure analog sounds better but that doesn't mean he can't do this with a plugin.

To the OP, just pull up your favorite synth and use two oscillators with saw waveform, then just detune them in relation to one another. Maybe run one of them one octave higher then the other. Really nothing to it.

[SWAN808]

bass sounds quite close but you need to have the filter closing a bit more and faster...(decrease decay)...perhaps a little more resonance also...

No reverb on the bass...and make the reverb decay time faster and generally less...

Not a bad effort

Com Truise uses a combination of analogue (matrix 6) and plugins (arturia moog)...but he does a lot of processing outboard via a desk...

[golden beers]

if he did that track with VSTi's, colour me impressed! and give me a hat to eat!

[jackdamery]

Originally Posted by SWAN808

bass sounds quite close but you need to have the filter closing a bit more and faster...(decrease decay)...perhaps a little more resonance also...

No reverb on the bass...and make the reverb decay time faster and generally less...

Not a bad effort

Com Truise uses a combination of analogue (matrix 6) and plugins (arturia moog)...but he does a lot of processing outboard via a desk...

Do you mean, I should put no reverb on the bass? I think it needs a little in the higher FQs.

He definitely used hard synths for that track. Matrix 6 bass I believe. I was using a Matrix6 preset that I modded in SQ8L for the bass.

[golden beers]

man i must have listened to that track like 20 times now. love it. the bass is surely a mulitivoice sound in unison, it also sounds like it has a little cross modulation edit, maybe not, perhaps PWMand also a touch of overdrive in the processing (in the last 3rd of the track). so my advice to the op is, stack some voices and detune them a couple of cent. this sound is also all about how that filter closes in the decay phase of the envelope so be sure to tie a second adsr to the filter fast attack medium decay and a medium to low sustain, release should be same as decay..

[jackdamery]

Thanks for the informative post golden beers C:E

[jackdamery]

Ok heres a 2nd attempt I replaced the SQ8L bass with TAL programmed like you said.
Com Truise - Futureworld - 2nd attempt by F*CK-M*FFIN on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

[tyler477]

man, this is becoming a great hardware vs software deathmatch!

I'll bust out my matrix 6r and try and make it bbl

com truise is killing it tho, haven't heard a track of his I didn;t like somewhat so far, going on a year now !

[LiveFromKyoto]

He uses a mix of analog + software. He's been complimentary to the Arturia stuff (he singled out the Model D emulation), but gear is where his heart is.

He uses the Mopho a ton (CEM brass sequences all over his stuff). I think his composition style is done in large part with an Akai Ableton pad controller (he had both these things on stage when I saw him, and they stand out when you go back and listen to the album). The MPC style composition along with the sequences kind of jumps out at you after a while.

His drums are all from an Oberheim DX, which is kind of plain as day.

He was also wearing a Make Noise shirt, so I'm guessing he's got some modular stuff going on as well (or has recently reinvested his gig money, who knows).

But he says it's mostly in the production/processing, and I believe it - he's recording to tape and maybe even hi fidelity VHS. For the analog fetishists on this site, check the album out, the whole thing's amazing and is like one big ode to various filter characters. Whoever's responsible for the finished sound is a genius.

[tyler477]

o k here's a go, I found a similar sound in the matrix 6r ( also realized one voice is not playing right see if you spot it!) upped the PWM then used the matrix mod to attach an env to the OSC 1+2 mix then I ran it thru a detune on my eventide, and added some chorus and EQ here we go: not too shabby if I do say so, for only 30 min !!!

[tyler477]

by the way I swapped the CEM chip of the bad voice and the problem didn't follow the CEM 3396 chip ... 8) what's next to test??? any matrix 6 specialists here?

[SWAN808]

my favorite work of his is a remix for this upcoming british singer FOE. The halfspeed breakdown is great.

[SWAN808]

in fact I generally prefer his remix stuff...his sound works brilliantly with vocals. I find his original stuff cool if a bit dull on its own at times, but his remix stuff excellent...New Order bass

[CFCarter]

Really like his style.. About his drums.. They sound so close and overcompressed but still really goooood! Anyone have any idea how to achieve this sound?!

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by CFCarter

Really like his style.. About his drums.. They sound so close and overcompressed but still really goooood! Anyone have any idea how to achieve this sound?!

lashings of reverb and side chain

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by jackdamery

Ok heres a 2nd attempt I replaced the SQ8L bass with TAL programmed like you said.
Com Truise - Futureworld - 2nd attempt by F*CK-M*FFIN on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

sounds a little to square, perhaps try again with some PWM. also swap out those strings for a thinner FM pad.

side chain compress everything from the kick

[Branmong]

I know its not relating to the synthesis aspect, but the groove in your version sounds wrong - it sounds a bit jerky, rather than flowing like the original. Maybe try slowing the original down? Might make it easier to hear the precise timings.

Great song! Cheers for posting, have been listening to lots of his stuff on youtube.

[Branmong]

Originally Posted by golden beers

lashings of reverb and side chain

What do you mean by sidechaining exactly here ? What is being sidechained to what?

Cheers

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by Branmong

What do you mean by sidechaining exactly here ? What is being sidechained to what?

Cheers

the kick is sidechain compressing the bassline and the snare verb. also other elements may be side chaning the verb eg the ride could be, havent listened intently along the lines of working out what's doing what, just listening for pleasure!

[Branmong]

Cheers - interesting idea of sidechaining snare verb using the kick drum, will have to have another listen. So is this basically what gated reverb is and the general way its used? One of those terms I've always had only a vague idea about.

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by Branmong

Cheers - interesting idea of sidechaining snare verb using the kick drum, will have to have another listen. So is this basically what gated reverb is and the general way its used? One of those terms I've always had only a vague idea about.

gated verb is something else; when you have a gate triggered open with the snare signal itself and then closes after a set time.

[Itsmorning]

Originally Posted by golden beers

gated verb is something else; when you have a gate triggered open with the snare signal itself and then closes after a set time.

For gated verb it's more common to close at a set volume as having the same verb length for different strikes of a snare is monotonous.

[raymondwave]

Originally Posted by tyler477

o k here's a go, I found a similar sound in the matrix 6r ( also realized one voice is not playing right see if you spot it!) upped the PWM then used the matrix mod to attach an env to the OSC 1+2 mix then I ran it thru a detune on my eventide, and added some chorus and EQ here we go: not too shabby if I do say so, for only 30 min !!!

This was pretty damn good.

[golden beers]

Originally Posted by Itsmorning

For gated verb it's more common to close at a set volume as having the same verb length for different strikes of a snare is monotonous.

potato potato

there's a threshold level set, above which the gate opens and below which closes.. its the close or release time that governs how long it takes to shut the gate, some gates are quite basic and just have fast/slow release button and a threshold control. expanders can be thought of in the same way.

in other words they all enter the release phase of the process at a set volume like you say.

[pointsource]

Com Truise... Mord Fustang... Lols... One guy copied the other!


Soon we'll have Prad Bitt, Gill Bates and Farrison Hord!

[tyler477]

Originally Posted by raymondwave

This was pretty damn good.

[Tridact]

This is what he listed a while back on another board.

Here is my list though:

Keys-
Oberheim Matrix 6
Korg Poly-61
SCI Split-Eight
Dave Smith MoPho (Key edition)
Yamaha PSR-4600
SCI Prophet 2000
Yamaha DX7

Modules-
Korg EX-800
Vermona Mono Lancet
Simmons SDS-8
TAMA Techstar TS-202

Guitar-
Ibanez Gio

Bass-
Epiphone EB-O

Pedals-
EHX Clone Theory
EHX Small Stone
EHX Memory Boy
Boss DRP-III

I've just started to my modular, so far:
Piston Honda
Hertz Donut
Polivoks VCF
Doepfer a-130
Doepfer 1-140
Make Noise Pressure Points

Mic-
CAD

The modular is kind of on hold since I'm in remix land, and getting ready for this tour. I really wish I could just stay home and finish it.

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[tyler477]

Originally Posted by Tridact

This is what he listed a while back on another board.



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this is pretty much the list I envisioned while listening to his music.. poly 61, ex-800, dx7... ITB eat your heart out

I also like how he says he'd rather be at home finishing his modular than going on tour! this is what a true electronic producer loves, being in the studio with synths.