29th September 2012
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#2191 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by cresshead  | just to say your camera phone has a grubby lens is all. put a tiny drop of water on it and wipe it on your T shirt!
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29th September 2012
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#2192 | | Lives for gear
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...as I'm noodling on my MiniBrute I've noticed something that happens all the time when playing analog monos, namely, when I play a hardware analog synth I kinda keep coming up with better riffs than when I play VST synths on my seven octave controller. The limited octave span of a mono analog synth together with direct access to all parameters just fuels creativity. At least it's true for me.
Just now, I've set up a PWM square mixed with a detuned sawtooth wave and a sine sub, and I just could not stop playing this Yazoo inspired riff. Then, I immediately tried to play the same pattern on my controller and I messed it up!  Couldn't play it. I had to go back to MB and there it was again. Magic.  | |
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29th September 2012
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#2193 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by himalaya ...as I'm noodling on my MiniBrute I've noticed something that happens all the time when playing analog monos, namely, when I play a hardware analog synth I kinda keep coming up with better riffs than when I play VST synths on my seven octave controller. The limited octave span of a mono analog synth together with direct access to all parameters just fuels creativity. At least it's true for me.
Just now, I've set up a PWM square mixed with a detuned sawtooth wave and a sine sub, and I just could not stop playing this Yazoo inspired riff. Then, I immediately tried to play the same pattern on my controller and I messed it up! Couldn't play it. I had to go back to MB and there it was again. Magic. |
yup..also striking 2 keys or glancing on off of 2 keys on the minibrute has a sonicly playable aspect i don't get on vst synths or poly synths...you can hear that in the patch demo i posted...real analogue is so much playable fun 
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29th September 2012
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#2194 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by samwell7 Where is DV247?
I ordered mine about 6 weeks ago aswell ahah, when I ordered it the date was 'early september', then got changed to 'mid sep' then 'end-sep early-oct' now 'mid-late oct'
Sort of got me thinking I should've bought one online when there were some Sydney stores with stock on eBay.
If the rumour about arturia not being happy with their factory being the reason there's extra delays is true then I'm happy waiting | Sorry dude that DV247 place I ordered from is in the UK. I'm not holding my breath for the 17th October either, I'll bet it goes into November.
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29th September 2012
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#2195 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by polybonk Nope.
No matter what the setting it leaks a tiny bit.
Also on fast Env speed with no Osc in the mixer the envelope makes a fain pop with every note.
Not really much of on issue in a track but I just wanted to see if it was just this unit. If so I might swap it. | Trying it on mine, it does it as well. But it's only audible in way upper frequencies. I never play in the higher registers, so it would never bother me since i can't hear it in the lower keys.
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30th September 2012
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#2196 | | Lives for gear
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Yeah its pretty low.
Here is an interesting trick. Rout the headphone out into the input. It is the same idea as the brute factor knob but it has a slightly different sound and you can get more colored textures by balancing the 2 than the brute knob on its own.
Its like the Brute knob is more compressed and the phone to input is more raw.
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30th September 2012
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#2197 | | Gear interested
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Originally Posted by polybonk Yeah its pretty low.
Here is an interesting trick. Rout the headphone out into the input. It is the same idea as the brute factor knob but it has a slightly different sound and you can get more colored textures by balancing the 2 than the brute knob on its own.
Its like the Brute knob is more compressed and the phone to input is more raw. | Great tip. Just made a real nice dub bass using both the brute factor and the headphone -> audio in. All oscillators were below half or less, so the audio-in really phattened it out a lot while still retaining the softness of the sound.
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30th September 2012
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#2198 | | Lives for gear
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Its really good with the osc mixers low and just tickling the rippling sound of the warping feedback. You can have 2 acid lines at once blending in and out of one another like some kind of mirage of melody hidden within a hive of dark bubbling acid bass. So good!
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1st October 2012
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#2199 | | Lives for gear
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it's weird—the headphone out is a little different than the main out. i've actually recorded in stereo using both simultaneously and there's enough of a phase difference to get a small stereo image. it may just be that the main out actually saturates a bit and the headphone out doesn't.
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1st October 2012
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#2200 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by atma it's weird—the headphone out is a little different than the main out. i've actually recorded in stereo using both simultaneously and there's enough of a phase difference to get a small stereo image. it may just be that the main out actually saturates a bit and the headphone out doesn't. | Cool!
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1st October 2012
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#2201 | | Lives for gear
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Yes you are right. I think it compresses the sound a bit. This is very cool. I love quirks like that on hardware.
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2nd October 2012
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#2202 | | Lives for gear
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I'm considering a minibrute. I'm having a hard time finding this particular info, I've downloaded the manual and haven't found my answer. When you power down, and power back up, is your last patch still there? Does the Minibrute read the settings of the knobs on power up, or is everything initialized no matter where the knobs are? Thank you.
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2nd October 2012
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#2203 | | Gear interested
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I don't own it (yet) but I'd imagine if you power the unit down with a knob at 3 o'clock, unless you accidentally move that knob, it would remain at 3 o'clock.
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2nd October 2012
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#2204 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by hamildad
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Oh yes. That is the way of analog without patch memories.... The Ying and Yang of analog... What you see is what you get...  | |
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2nd October 2012
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#2205 | | Lives for gear
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Cool. I own both a SE-1X and a MKS-80, but they both have patch memory, so I wasn't sure how that would work. Thanks for the quick response guys.
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2nd October 2012
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#2206 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2012 Location: Baton Rouge
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Any audio snipits of the headphone jack + Brute Factor method??
Sorry if asking for examples is annoying, I'm still waiting!!!!
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3rd October 2012
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#2207 | | Bace
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Is it just me or do the lfo's (pitch and filter) not stay in sync completely with the arp when synced to the arp? It's close but my lfo's drift out of phase.
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3rd October 2012
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#2208 | | Lives for gear
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Mine stays in sync fine.
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3rd October 2012
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#2209 | | Gear Head
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Originally Posted by TheBrightSide On the plus side, it will be even more exciting when it arrives.
I honestly felt like a kid on Xmas day opening up mine. | The child imprisoned within, every one has one  | |
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3rd October 2012
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#2210 | | Gear interested
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| LFO driving the AMP, 'triggers' a note, on a minibrute
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Originally Posted by kaustik I'm wondering why the LFO amp makes sound when the gate is closed. Is there a good reason for it? I think it doesnt make any sense to bypass the Amp-ENV especially as the Minibrute offers the Hold-mode for the gate... | Hi - I'm getting the same symptoms:
the LFO when directed + or - to the VCA makes the Minibrute emit LFO-timed pulses of the last note played, independent of any keyboard presses (no midi attached). Subsequent changes to the Oscillator Mixer changes the note being 'played'.
Does everyone get this too - or are kaustik and I just 'lucky'?
I've sent an email to Arturia to ask if this is normal, but have had no reply yet.
Update: Well I've been playing with the Minibrute a bit more and in fact the sending of the LFO to the AMP is more subtle than I'd given it credit for.
At low amounts of - or + 'send' of the LFO, the AMP doesn't spontaneously produce any noise (or rather, so little that it's not audible) but when I press a key it does vary the volume enough to give a decent rotary-amp effect.
It's only at higher 'sends' that the AMP generates sound without a key being pressed.
Still no reply from Arturia - but in this case I think the resolution may be 'user education' :-)
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3rd October 2012
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#2211 | | Lives for gear
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apparently there have been 2 Arpeggiator bugs discovered which cause the MiniBrute to crash, they've been fixed and being beta-tested as we speak so a firmware update is coming before the end of year
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4th October 2012
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#2212 | | Gear maniac
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MF just sent me a shipment notice!!!!
I guess the ship date got bumped up a few weeks.
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4th October 2012
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#2213 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Mutex The child imprisoned within, every one has one | What's this imprisoned stuff. Let that little homie run wild and free every day, or you'll regret it.
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4th October 2012
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#2214 | | Bace
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Originally Posted by Acid Hazard Mine stays in sync fine. | Can someone do a test for me?
Set up a pretty slow 2-3 note arp. Use square as the LFO waveform (synced to the arp, of course) and assign a fair amount of pitch to it. Tell me if you hear any drifting with the LFO against the speed of the arp. It's not that it goes out of sync per say, but the LFO on mine definitely doesn't trigger perfectly anlong with the arp. The slow arp speed can help illustrate the effect. Thanks
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4th October 2012
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#2215 | | Gear interested
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Between the Minibrute and the Minitaur which one would you choose for fast arpeggiated basses (on 16th) like trance or psytrance?
From the demos the Minitaur sounds fuller, and the Minibrute seems more aggressive (but weaker in the low frequencies).
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4th October 2012
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#2216 | | Gear Head
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Originally Posted by Sartana Between the Minibrute and the Minitaur which one would you choose for fast arpeggiated basses (on 16th) like trance or psytrance?
From the demos the Minitaur sounds fuller, and the Minibrute seems more aggressive (but weaker in the low frequencies). | The Sub osc in the brute can pump some serious bass. It can be dialed -1 or -2 octaves deep.
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4th October 2012
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#2217 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Sartana ..
From the demos the Minitaur sounds fuller, and the Minibrute seems more aggressive (but weaker in the low frequencies). | That's what I'd expect in reality too, mind you, I'm just guessing from seeing the same clips that you did.
Personally, I'd pick the Minitaur if it was specifically for bass duties, based on specs and clips.
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4th October 2012
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#2218 | | Lives for gear
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Just an update, I fixed my "responding to aftertouch" problem by hooking the Minibrute directly to my Novation Remote... though that doesn't explain why it's the only synth I have that seems to not like aftertouch coming from Live/MOTU MIDI Express.
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4th October 2012
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#2219 | | Gear Head
Joined: Mar 2012 Location: Oakland, CA
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I just placed an order through Guitar Center over the weekend for a MB.....I probably should have done so back in January, so who knows how long it will be  . I did see someone here in Oakland walking with a MB box in hand, so its nice to know they exist.
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4th October 2012
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#2220 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by Wonton I just placed an order through Guitar Center over the weekend for a MB.....I probably should have done so back in January, so who knows how long it will be . I did see someone here in Oakland walking with a MB box in hand, so its nice to know they exist. | I placed an order with them over the weekend too (and used that nice coupon!). They told me their warehouse is getting shipped 52 or so units at the end of this month. So we'll see.
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