Arturia Minibrute

[mfx]

Originally Posted by Disease Factory

I think it will be more like the ms20(except it has 2 osc) in tone than say an sh2. I prefer the sh2. So you can see why i would not like its tone. ITs a tone thing for me. All the demos have this mid range tone, and even on the arturia page.

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Listen to all the sounds, there is something about the osc that just puts me off. Like how i like the les paul over a fender strat. Its the tone.

Now listen to:

MINITAUR | Moog Music Inc

IM loving that Funk Bass demo @ 8 on from the player on the MiniBrutes webpage and the LFO just throbs in your brain

I totally agree with your point of view and to be honest it's that distinct tonal difference between the two that are forging ideas in my head. To be honest 1 MiniBrute and 2 MiniTaurs could be on the order books for me, but then I am over zealously greedy However the Minimac http://www.macbethstudiosystems.com/ is starting to draw my attention a little.

Still going to wait for April 2012 see what else comes around and hear everyones moans, groans and self indulgent hypes for each product

[Ausgeno]

Originally Posted by Disease Factory

Listen to all the sounds, there is something about the osc that just puts me off. Like how i like the les paul over a fender strat. Its the tone.

Preferring the tone of a Les Paul over a Strat is absolutely fine, but then going into a Strat thread and saying the Strat sucks, is lame, is tinny, sounds like ass etc <DELETED BY MODERATOR>.

Obviously the Minitaur has fatter bass, it's a dedicated bass synth which comes with it's own set of limitations and won't be much use for lead lines as its highest note is middle C.

Listen to the sound at 36 seconds into this vid:



Minitaur can't do that, but nobody (I hope) is going to go into the Minitaur thread and starting pissing all over it for that reason so chill out.

[cresshead]

Originally Posted by Ausgeno

Minitaur can't do that, but nobody (I hope) is going to go into the Minitaur thread and starting pissing all over it for that reason so chill out.

yeh sounds really nice and all of that was above middle c i think

[projectwoofer]

Originally Posted by Ausgeno

Preferring the tone of a Les Paul over a Strat is absolutely fine, but then going into a Strat thread and saying the Strat sucks, is lame, is tinny, sounds like ass etc just makes you sound like a dick man.

Obviously the Minitaur has fatter bass, it's a dedicated bass synth which comes with it's own set of limitations and won't be much use for lead lines as its highest note is middle C.

.................

Minitaur can't do that, but nobody (I hope) is going to go into the Minitaur thread and starting pissing all over it for that reason so chill out.

Both are synths that aren't even out yet so they don't even have any real fans yet, so anyone can express their opinion, so it's you that you should chill out.

[Ausgeno]

Meh, I'm just not a fan of seeing people stink up threads by saying a synth sucks and sounds like ass over and over but I guess replying to him wasn't helping either.

[projectwoofer]

Originally Posted by mfx

Still going to wait for April 2012 see what else comes around and hear everyones moans, groans and self indulgent hypes for each product

As much as I like the sound of the new Macbeth and Tom Oberheim stuff, it's unfortunately out of my range for the time being so the most promising and not so expensive stuff IMO is: Minibrute, Minitaur, DominionX and Pulse 2. Only problem is not one of them is released yet so I'll wait patiently too. As far as other options, I was never crazy about the sound of the Slim Phatty or the Mono Lancet which in addition seems a bit limited without the extra modular bridge...

My observations so far:

The Minibrute seems very interesting and nice priced, from the demos I can hear a certain special character to its sound which I certainly respect but it doesn't seem to be my thing. It sounds harsh and I'm more after creamy. Need to be more familiar with the instrument to have an opinion though. Also lack of preset memory is a minus to me.

The Minitaur sounds more old school Moog than any of the current Moogs and I really like that! I much prefer its sound to the SP although I find it limited in many ways. I like its capability to save presets though and would really like to try it in person.

The DominionX is my favorite of the bunch because it offers much more than all the others and although it costs a bit more I think it could be worth it. The build quality seems better but I don't know for sure from just 2-3 photographs. The sound is very interesting but the demos so far are not the best I've heard so I'm waiting for some better ones. It's a programmer's dream though and has patch saving capability.

The Pulse 2 spec-wise seems fantastic but who knows if and when will it ever released and how would it sound. Let's wait and see...

[Disease Factory]

no the minibrute will be ok, just not my cup of tea. i just wish it had 2 osc

[greggybud]

A true analog purist would complain that it has Midi. Midi is for wimps who can't handle CV....plus...as you know....midi makes this thing more expensive.

In addition I think the lack of Midi would be quite liberating too...just like the lack of patch memory.

[zahush76]

Originally Posted by greggybud

A true analog purist would complain that it has Midi. Midi is for wimps who can't handle CV....

And of course, the usb port is just profanity!!! Blasphemy!!!

[verve92]

Originally Posted by zahush76

And of course, the usb port is just profanity!!! Blasphemy!!!

Why is that??
sounds like a nice extra feature to me.
What harm does it cause. God forbid it has an editor someday!

[Dogboy73]

Originally Posted by zahush76

And of course, the usb port is just profanity!!! Blasphemy!!!

Absolutely right. It's my intention to gouge out the USB and MIDI ports as soon as I un-box the Minitaur and burn them whilst my computer and other MIDI equipment watch on and weep

[mfx]

Originally Posted by projectwoofer

As much as I like the sound of the new Macbeth and Tom Oberheim stuff, it's unfortunately out of my range for the time being so the most promising and not so expensive stuff IMO is: Minibrute, Minitaur, DominionX and Pulse 2. Only problem is not one of them is released yet so I'll wait patiently too. As far as other options, I was never crazy about the sound of the Slim Phatty or the Mono Lancet which in addition seems a bit limited without the extra modular bridge...

My observations so far:

The Minibrute seems very interesting and nice priced, from the demos I can hear a certain special character to its sound which I certainly respect but it doesn't seem to be my thing. It sounds harsh and I'm more after creamy. Need to be more familiar with the instrument to have an opinion though. Also lack of preset memory is a minus to me.

The Minitaur sounds more old school Moog than any of the current Moogs and I really like that! I much prefer its sound to the SP although I find it limited in many ways. I like its capability to save presets though and would really like to try it in person.

The DominionX is my favorite of the bunch because it offers much more than all the others and although it costs a bit more I think it could be worth it. The build quality seems better but I don't know for sure from just 2-3 photographs. The sound is very interesting but the demos so far are not the best I've heard so I'm waiting for some better ones. It's a programmer's dream though and has patch saving capability.

The Pulse 2 spec-wise seems fantastic but who knows if and when will it ever released and how would it sound. Let's wait and see...

Have they resolved the inclusion of the Schippmann filter with the Dominion?

[Dogboy73]

Originally Posted by greggybud

A true analog purist would complain that it has Midi. Midi is for wimps who can't handle CV....plus...as you know....midi makes this thing more expensive. In addition I think the lack of Midi would be quite liberating too...just like the lack of patch memory.

.... But in all seriousness you've got a point there. However, I'm not a purist by any stretch of the imagination. Best of both World's for me. With this in mind I can understand your frustration with the Minibrute's lack of patch recall. But as I said before I don't consider it an important feature on an analogue monosynth. Little more use than a chocolate fire guard IMO.

[projectwoofer]

Originally Posted by mfx

Have they resolved the inclusion of the Schippmann filter with the Dominion?

As far as I know, it won't include the Schippmann filter but a custom MFB which still sounds very interesting from the demos...we need more of them though to reach a conclusion...

[moneyforsluts]

Originally Posted by projectwoofer

The Minitaur sounds more old school Moog than any of the current Moogs and I really like that! I much prefer its sound to the SP although I find it limited in many ways. I like its capability to save presets though and would really like to try it in person.

It sounds like a Taurus, but it doesn't really sound as much like a minimoog, the Voyager edges it out there.

[zahush76]

Originally Posted by verve92

Why is that??
sounds like a nice extra feature to me.
What harm does it cause. God forbid it has an editor someday!

The fact that you didn't get the joke is the thing you should worry about

[laikenf]

Originally Posted by greggybud

A true analog purist would complain that it has Midi. Midi is for wimps who can't handle CV....plus...as you know....midi makes this thing more expensive.

In addition I think the lack of Midi would be quite liberating too...just like the lack of patch memory.

[Clonkified]

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[Serpentine]

Originally Posted by Rust Creep

If you need patch memory on a monosynth I feel sorry for you son

I got 99 problems but programming synths ain't one

Best. Post. Ever.

[zahush76]

I feel like we're making a real progress here in this discussion. All of us reached new conclusions, and completely changed our perceptions.

[PeteJames]

"USD 549.00 / EURO 499.00- AVAILABLE APRIL 2012"

That is so unfair! Currently the US is the equivalent of over £80 cheaper and it's a French company!! Always getting screwed over here! Those slider caps look really plastically - like an akai midi controller - surely they are not? Other than that I think i'll get one

[mavano]

Originally Posted by PeteJames

"USD 549.00 / EURO 499.00- AVAILABLE APRIL 2012"

That is so unfair! Currently the US is the equivalent of over £80 cheaper and it's a French company!! Always getting screwed over here! Those slider caps look really plastically - like an akai midi controller - surely they are not? Other than that I think i'll get one

US price is excluding taxes... They always are. Add ~20% to the $ price and compare again. Don't wanna open pandora's box here, but in the grand scheme of things I wouldn't want to trade the overall US system for the EU one. imho off course.

Anyway. Companies use $1=€1 conversion more often than not. Arturia is actually kind of nice here to Europeans...

[razorblade]

US price is excluding taxes... They always are. Add ~20% to the $ price and compare again.

Nah...California is between 8 and 9 percent sales tax, but there are plenty of places that don't charge tax via internet sales, unless you live in their state.

If I get something from Analog Haven, I'll get hit with tax. If I order it from Sweetwater, I don't.

[grawk]

I'm pretty sure he meant "VAT", sales tax that's collected from the vendor, not tacked on like us sales tax.

[OmicronMeadow]

I applaud Arturia for bringing back this somewhat exotic VCO design from the past. I find it more interesting than just 2 VCOs with fixed waveforms and now each waveform has a special effect that you can apply to it - very cool and innovative.

I hope the keyboard is comfortable to play on. The sound is great and unique in the audio clips from their website, but most of the videos sound pants - just like those ultra expensive modular synths through that already 'classic' mobile phone microphone effect.

As always, we'll see what kind of beast it is when the synth is out and reviewed.

[Serpentine]

Originally Posted by PeteJames

Those slider caps look really plastically - like an akai midi controller - surely they are not? Other than that I think i'll get one

Fine by me, my Juno 6, SH-2 and SH-101 all have plastic slider caps.

[Beany]

I hope the keyboard is comfortable to play on.

If the keybed is like the Arturia Factory one then it will be comfortable to play with not much resistance compared to, say, the MPK49. I've slated them elsewhere on GS, mainly for the cheap plastc knobs, but it looks like they've used nicer, rubberised ones on the Minibrute and also rubberised the mod & pitch wheels too. The sliders look the same and, although they are cheap, they were waaay less annoying than the knobs.

[OmicronMeadow]

Most synths have plastic pots and buttons... and keys . As long as they feel and look good, they're fine.

[ionian]

Originally Posted by mavano

US price is excluding taxes... They always are. Add ~20% to the $ price and compare again. Don't wanna open pandora's box here, but in the grand scheme of things I wouldn't want to trade the overall US system for the EU one. imho off course.

Anyway. Companies use $1=€1 conversion more often than not. Arturia is actually kind of nice here to Europeans...

In NYC tax is between 8 and 9% (Something like 8.65 or something). If I order out of state, I don't pay tax so if I order it from Sweetwater I wouldn't pay tax. So for most Americans, the $549 is what it will cost us as long as we order out of state.

Regards,
Frank

EDIT: Sorry...missed that razorblade in post #173 already clued you into this. Sorry.

[verve92]

US buyers don't pay taxes unless bought in that State. How does it work in EU?
Say you buy it from the US store? Do you pay taxes?