After listening to a lot of demos, I'm totally sold and impatient. I don't think I've ever been slutting after a piece of gear so much!
Now bring them on to the UK!
After listening to a lot of demos, I'm totally sold and impatient. I don't think I've ever been slutting after a piece of gear so much!
Now bring them on to the UK!
UK has NONE yet?? Wow. They are on Ebay here you could just cop one we won't squawk.
BTW that video is disturbing. Booze that close to gear
Well after years of only digital the minibrute has bitten me hard. I just bought this off ebay for $620, shipped:
Seller said it's brand new, so I'm thinking it's a pretty good deal. I also picked up a laptop stand for $30 that will allow me to lift the SP over the Minibrute. I'm thinkink it should look pretty awesome. Plan is to feed the Minibrute audio in from the Moog, unless you guys think I should keep em seperate? Still new to all of this and I think I'm done with analog Monos for awhile. I can't afford the big boy stuff like the voyager or a nice modular but I think the Brute + SP is a pretty sick little combo.
Well after years of only digital the minibrute has bitten me hard. I just bought this off ebay for $620, shipped:
Seller said it's brand new, so I'm thinking it's a pretty good deal. I also picked up a laptop stand for $30 that will allow me to lift the SP over the Minibrute. I'm thinkink it should look pretty awesome. Plan is to feed the Minibrute audio in from the Moog, unless you guys think I should keep em seperate? Still new to all of this and I think I'm done with analog Monos for awhile. I can't afford the big boy stuff like the voyager or a nice modular but I think the Brute + SP is a pretty sick little combo.
Nice, man!
I almost got one of those....twice!
You got the bug you sick bastage!
Don't lose track of digital as it does many things analog cannot.
Now you need an analog poly!
Alpha Juno is the best and cheapest way to go!
Get one soon as all the people who can't afford the insane Juno 60 prices are getting AJ's and the prices are climbing up and up. They sound great and are extremely simple and reliable.
Yeh, it's amazing to me that people can complain about anything, I look at this synth and think "Damn, I get THAT for $500 bucks!!!"
People are so frickin' spoiled.
-andrews
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Originally Posted by GeorgeHayduke
So you'd buy anything because it's only 500 bucks?
Yeah, 'cause that's what I said.
Have you even played it yet? Hell, even if not, the sound is fantastic and the features for the money are amazing... but, by all means, keep getting all hyperbolic, this is the internet after all.
so I have a question.. I love everything about the brute except I can't figure out how to get the audio input in time with the beat when sending midi out to the brute from ableton. It's always way behind, there is a lot of latency between the time the midi is sent to the brute, and the time the computer receives and can record the audio coming from the mini. Is there a way to fix this?
Setup -
Ableton Suite 8
Minibrute Mono Output into Channel A of Apogee Duet 2.
Midi output from ableton live through USB 2.0 midi interface cable. The cable is plugged in to a little usb dynex extender as I'm on a Macbook Pro and I'm using like 7 USB slots already.
I also believe it can output polyphonic aftertouch. So, it is not necessarily crippled as a controller.
Unfortunately it doesn't have polyphonic aftertouch. Mind you, I haven't directly tested that fact but give me a day or so and I'll give you a definitive answer. I can see what looks like the AT strip (reddish colour) through the keybed -- if it is indeed the AT strip then it's likely channel aftertouch since polyphonic would need a separate pressure sensor for each key. It's a minor miracle that it even has channel aftertouch considering that Roland and Korg tend to leave it off their virtual analog keybeds.
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I'm looking forward to the possibility that Yves Yusson raised that Arturia plans to host forums for hacking the Minibrute, in the future. In the mean time, I'm lighting candles for a future iPad app to quickly be able to contol some of the software-based features (I believe they are currently controlled as SYSEX messages).
Now that's a very interesting proposition. It would be relatively easy to hack the velocity sensitivity to route to the aftertouch destinations. Typically velocity data is generated by the time interval between the triggering of two sensors at different locations on each key. Depending on how that data is incorporated into the outgoing MIDI stream it would be no problem to replace the aftertouch data with the velocity data (or better yet, have them sum). If the AT data is converted into a voltage first then it would still be easy to replace that with the velocity data before the D to A conversion. It all really depends on how the aftertouch data is processed to before it acts on the filter or vibrato. I have a feeling it remains totally digital.
Unfortunately it doesn't have polyphonic aftertouch. Mind you, I haven't directly tested that fact but give me a day or so and I'll give you a definitive answer. I can see what looks like the AT strip (reddish colour) through the keybed -- if it is indeed the AT strip then it's likely channel aftertouch since polyphonic would need a separate pressure sensor for each key. It's a minor miracle that it even has channel aftertouch considering that Roland and Korg tend to leave it off their virtual analog keybeds.
Thank you for the clarification.
Now that's a very interesting proposition. It would be relatively easy to hack the velocity sensitivity to route to the aftertouch destinations. Typically velocity data is generated by the time interval between the triggering of two sensors at different locations on each key. Depending on how that data is incorporated into the outgoing MIDI stream it would be no problem to replace the aftertouch data with the velocity data (or better yet, have them sum). If the AT data is converted into a voltage first then it would still be easy to replace that with the velocity data before the D to A conversion. It all really depends on how the aftertouch data is processed to before it acts on the filter or vibrato. I have a feeling it remains totally digital.
This would be interesting. Please let us know if you choose to experiment and/or can confirm this with the Arturia developers.
Imagine a 61 key version of the brute with two filters, independent osc tuning, two lfos, a couple more destruction knobs, velocity response, maybe another mod wheel. Everytime I look at the brute I just want to stretch it out and watch all the extra functions come to life. If they could make that at $1000 I think it would be a game changer.
Don't quote half a sentence from me because you feel the need to make a point. In context what I was saying was the Minibrute's sound is perfect for NINish sounding distorted tones.
The Minibrute is far from perfect. I'm still a bit stunned about the fact that it doesn't respond to velocity. However, I think they succeeded in creating an instrument that provides a good balance of interesting features, good build quality and Casiotone pricing. It's hard to tell at this point how reliable it'll be over the long run, but it feels like a pretty well built machine. I wouldn't hesitate to take it on a gig.
To all those people who were saying it would end up being a cheap toy, you were wrong. Completely wrong.
Well after years of only digital the minibrute has bitten me hard. I just bought this off ebay for $620, shipped:
Seller said it's brand new, so I'm thinking it's a pretty good deal. I also picked up a laptop stand for $30 that will allow me to lift the SP over the Minibrute. I'm thinkink it should look pretty awesome. Plan is to feed the Minibrute audio in from the Moog, unless you guys think I should keep em seperate? Still new to all of this and I think I'm done with analog Monos for awhile. I can't afford the big boy stuff like the voyager or a nice modular but I think the Brute + SP is a pretty sick little combo.
This is exactly how I have it set up, though I'm running into one issue. I've got the Slim Phatty running from USB out of my computer and it didn't seem like it sent that MIDI out it's thru. However, it did send it out it's MIDI out... but maybe stripped the aftertouch? I can only seem to get aftertouch from the Minibrute's keyboard. I didn't spend much time troubleshooting that though. I also just started running audio though the Slim Phatty so I'm not sure how to set it to keep it's gate open all the time.
I think this machine is an unexpected classic already. I've been looking at some mono synths . . . and I think this one beats out Minitaur, Lil Phatty, and Mopho really. It's sooooo modern and so dirty. It's really the modern take on a real analog synth. I may end up getting one just for bass duties.
I wanted to get a Minitaur for bass but I dunno . . . this thing sounds really good. I cant believe its only 1 osc and a sub.
Of course I could get both and layer them ::drools::
I think this machine is an unexpected classic already. I've been looking at some mono synths . . . and I think this one beats out Minitaur, Lil Phatty, and Mopho really. It's sooooo modern and so dirty. It's really the modern take on a real analog synth. I may end up getting one just for bass duties.
I wanted to get a Minitaur for bass but I dunno . . . this thing sounds really good. I cant believe its only 1 osc and a sub.
Of course I could get both and layer them ::drools::
Agree 100000%
It can sound quite vintage and I have been looking for a synth that makes Berlin Tangerine Dream like bass sounds with the arp and sequencer. I think it can do it. Juts still waiting!
BTW have you seen the Sweetwater demo where he uses a delay and ring modulator to mimic another oscillator? F#@&^% brilliant!
Agree 100000%
It can sound quite vintage and I have been looking for a synth that makes Berlin Tangerine Dream like bass sounds with the arp and sequencer. I think it can do it. Juts still waiting!
BTW have you seen the Sweetwater demo where he uses a delay and ring modulator to mimic another oscillator? F#@&^% brilliant!
The synth is a damn beast. It's truly the only analog I feel has been done right since the Andromeda A6 days (and even that one didnt have the immediacy or build that I wanted).
This is a really great synth. I may be picking this bad boy up at some point. I do think combining it w/ a Minitaur would really be cool as well though.
The synth is a damn beast. It's truly the only analog I feel has been done right since the Andromeda A6 days (and even that one didnt have the immediacy or build that I wanted).
This is a really great synth. I may be picking this bad boy up at some point. I do think combining it w/ a Minitaur would really be cool as well though.
Difficult to compare to the A6 as it was 8 voice poly, but yes it is in the league with the Slim Phatty and MoPho, both of which are two oscillator units.
Imagine when the PolyBrute comes out. I think it will be far from a fantasy.
Only a matter of which NAMM it will show in. Maybe a multi-osc mono first.
Sounds like it plays nice with other synths like Euroracks see the SonicLab review.
I look forwad to plugging into my other synths if it ever comes.
Like waiting for a bus to a beautiful place..........
Is your A6 broken? They came out of the factory having 16 Osc.
No, they have 32 osc and 16 voices.
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Was wondering how Arturia designed it. Did they design it themselves or did they ask a 3rd party to help them with that?
There is a lot of infos about it, It's Yves Usson, well know in the modular DIY.
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Besides our skilful in house engineers, Arturia teamed up with three talented people who share the same passion for analog synthesis.
Yves Usson is the man behind the "Yusynth" project. He created some of the world's finest analog modules and he is the designer of the original analog circuits in MiniBrute.
Nyle Steiner, the engineer who designed the original Steiner-Parker filter and several other innovative instruments for his own brand and for Crumar and Akai, was consulted to approve the adaptations of his filter in MiniBrute. He also contributed some very important tweaks that broaden the cutoff and resonance response even further.
Axel Hartmann designed the MiniBrutes body and layout, paying tribute to classic designs of the late 70's and early 80's, while bringing a modern edge that nicely echoes the fact this is a 21st Century synthesize
Got my MB 2 weeks ago. I was lucky enough to get 1 of 2 from guitar center. Just picked up a freq box (clearance at guitar center). I've been having lots of fun running pitch cv to freq on the freqbox. Something fun I found a bit ago is running the osc out of the freqbox to the audio in of the MB. This way you can fade in the raw osc of the freqbox and use the attack and filter. (watch out though, it's a super hot signal from the osc out). Then hit the switch on the freq box and you have different sounds. A wide variety of sounds can be had. The freqbox can be sync'd or you can set the pitch manually (kind of tricky but doable) and get octaves or 5ths etc. all this is in pitch with the cv. Man I'm having a lot of fun. I'll prob go pick up the clearance moogerfoogrr ring mod for mor cv fun .
I'm using mine with a CP-251 and Dark Energy. It is a great synth! Sorry that others haven't gotten their pre-orders! It is worth the wait though! Still working my head around using the CP-251 along with the MB & DE, but everything is working as patched.
I'm looking forward to Arturia expanding on this analog direction - sequencer, additional VCOs, , etc. It's about time a company comes up with a synth that expands on the usual terrain!
Cool video. Minibrute appears to be very inviting to run a sequence and modify it on the fly. Perfect if you already have two hands busy playing a lead and pad. It seems so easy to just flick a couple of sliders in one go between notes. For me, this little synth is a revelation of the year. I feel GAS :-)
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