How to get LMFAO Party Rock Anthem lead?

[offki]

Originally Posted by Jonny_silva

HEs probably right though, most people would jump at the chance to swap places with LMFAO if they really were serious about being professional musicians.

You are mistaking fame for being a professional musician.

This is Fame



This is a professional musician.

[Meow]

This song is sooooooooo bad lol

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by offki

You are mistaking fame for being a professional musician.

This is Fame



This is a professional musician.

BOOM! Well said.


It's sad that so many people want to be remembered for such bad music..

Oh well I guess LMFAO is having fun and they don't really take themselves seriously To each their own.

[offki]

Originally Posted by Boreal

BOOM! Well said.


It's sad that so many people want to be remembered for such bad music..

Oh well I guess LMFAO is having fun and they don't really take themselves seriously To each their own.

Yeah, it's their choice totally, I don't mind if they get to number 1 worldwide with a eurotrance megamix of Rick Astleys greatest hits. I'm just saying that's not what everyone wants.

[Marcus909]

Originally Posted by Boreal

Oh well I guess LMFAO is having fun and they don't really take themselves seriously To each their own.

haha you can see they definitely don't take themselves too seriously if you watch some of their old youtube videos from back in the day when they were still nobodies trying to get signed...

Daliy Feb. 20 2008 - YouTube


lmfao daily feb.26 2008 - YouTube


love lockdown lmfao rmx (the making of) - YouTube

[fooloof]

Originally Posted by offki

In your case yes

I'm pretty sure you weren't appointed the spokesperson for humanity, but please carry on ranting.

Fried chicken tastes ever better when you're laughing at crazy people on the internet.

can you actually make an argument or just snide remarks?

[fooloof]

Originally Posted by Boreal

BOOM! Well said.


It's sad that so many people want to be remembered for such bad music..

Oh well I guess LMFAO is having fun and they don't really take themselves seriously To each their own.

I don't know how much they want to be "remembered" as much as they want to make a lot of money doing something they enjoy. Everybody can't be Daft Punk and that's okay.

[fooloof]

Originally Posted by The Hamburglar

This is a truly reprehensible perspective on music, creativity, ambition, and Motown.

perhaps reprehensible, but true. Anyone arguing to the contrary is obviously naive about the business and has never made any music professionally.

[fooloof]

The reason artistic integrity is undermined the moment compensation enters the picture, is because the music becomes the secondary consideration and compensation becomes the first. in fact, the whole pop formula of verse, chorus, verse, etc. is a perfect example of this. This was a way to present music that would hold the audience's attention. what's the point of a hook? to hook people and sell records.

when you are trying to sell your music, you have to accede to the demands of your target audience and can no longer do whatever feels good or is musically sound. Often, the two converge, but that is just a happy coincidence. when you make music FOR A LIVING, the primary objective of your music, by definition has to be to sell records. if you ceased selling records and could not maintain your lifestyle, then you would have to either change what you're doing musically or find another way to earn money.

the only musicians or artists free of these constraints have already made a huge pile of money and did not get to that point without considering their buying public. This doesn't mean that everything has to be pop shit, but a work of art is not pure "art" if money is involved.

[offki]

Originally Posted by fooloof

can you actually make an argument or just snide remarks?

Pot Kettle Black with that amazing post Mr Sell your soul for a dollar.

Stop trying to define the world, you talk about selling out and then you think you can classify what 'Art' is, in my country we have an expression, "Jog on".

when you are trying to sell your music, you have to accede to the demands of your target audience and can no longer do whatever feels good or is musically sound.

Bitter/Jaded much, please go spread your negativity somewhere else.

[fooloof]

Originally Posted by offki

Pot Kettle Black with that amazing post Mr Sell your soul for a dollar.

so, the answer is "make snide remarks."


got it.

[fooloof]

Originally Posted by offki

Pot Kettle Black with that amazing post Mr Sell your soul for a dollar.

Stop trying to define the world, you talk about selling out and then you think you can classify what 'Art' is, in my country we have an expression, "Jog on".

that's not an "argument", my friend. your credibility is rapidly diminishing. Now you've resorted to personal attacks. if you want to actually make some kind of point besides "I strongly disagree with you", then I am happy to engage you in a discussion. otherwise, go back to la la land.

[offki]

I feel sorry for you in your little negative dismal world. I'm pretty sure you started insulting other people when you glumly walked into this thread telling everyone they had no clue and shoud sell out..anyway, haz fun there in nowhere land.

Ok, I thought I would come back and make the point I should have..

You are talking about two, extremes, the very famous and rich sell out types and the artistic people that live in comparative obscurity. Extremes by their very nature are less common than the 'norm', the middle ground is people who are happy to live fairly well and make the music they want, live the lives they choose while doing what they love. Coming in here and telling people they can either make 'pop' or 'starve in obscurity' is not a very conductive way to approach things. Like I said, I feel sorry for you that you see it that way and it makes you come across as someone who has done one or the other and feels bitter about it.

[fooloof]

Originally Posted by offki

I feel sorry for you in your little negative dismal world. I'm pretty sure you started insulting other people when you glumly walked into this thread telling everyone they had no clue and shoud sell out..anyway, haz fun there in nowhere land.

you actually sound hurt. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings or caused you to feel disillusioned. that was not my intent. I am just stating facts of the BUSINESS.

Later

[offki]

Arggg, yes the pain, I canne bear it Captain, it burns my flesh...the sorrow of living comfortably and doing as I choose, please kill me now......

I gave you a better reply above.

Love how some of the people here think everyone that's under 40 has just dropped into the music scene and the first place they come is gearslutz.

Good for you and your Serious Internet Business.

[fooloof]

Originally Posted by offki

I feel sorry for you in your little negative dismal world. I'm pretty sure you started insulting other people when you glumly walked into this thread telling everyone they had no clue and shoud sell out..anyway, haz fun there in nowhere land.

Ok, I thought I would come back and make the point I should have..

You are talking about two, extremes, the very famous and rich sell out types and the artistic people that live in comparative obscurity. Extremes by their very nature are less common than the 'norm', the middle ground is people who are happy to live fairly well and make the music they want, live the lives they choose while doing what they love. Coming in here and telling people they can either make 'pop' or 'starve in obscurity' is not a very conductive way to approach things. Like I said, I feel sorry for you that you see it that way and it makes you come across as someone who has done one or the other and feels bitter about it.

thanks for making an actual point. No, i am not bitter about nothing. and, while my point is true of the two extremes you mentioned, it's also true of the so-called middle ground.

obviously, there are greater and lesser degrees of "selling out", but if you are honest about it, you will see that very little commercial art is pure. Pure, meaning completely free from other considerations besides the artistic direction of the work in question.

you always have to make something that is in a somewhat consumer-friendly format. it's entertainment. and I wish you would stop with all the "you must be bitter, I feel sorry for you" tone. not necessary. no need to get angry just because I don't agree with you.

and I'm not telling the world anything. if I am wrong, then prove me wrong. otherwise...

edit: which statement is MOST true?

in order to make money from music, you have to make something that people like.

vs

In order to make money from music, you have to make something true to your artistic vision.

[offki]

Originally Posted by fooloof

edit: which statement is MOST true?

in order to make money from music, you have to make something that people like.

vs

In order to make money from music, you have to make something true to your artistic vision.

Leading Questions

A leading question is a question which subtly prompts the respondent to answer in a particular way. Leading questions are generally undesirable as they result in false or slanted information.

Nice try dreambreaker

[fooloof]

Originally Posted by offki

Leading Questions



Nice try dreambreaker

yeah, whatever. i have no desire to break your dreams. why would I? but, this discussion is going nowhere.

best of luck to you.

[ohmicide]

Originally Posted by offki

You are mistaking fame for being a professional musician.

I was going to try and prove that statement wrong by bringing up the definition of a professional musician but I ended up realizing that it is true. A musician is someone that is talented or skilled in music, and what talent or skill does it take to come up with some idiotic lyrics about partying and being sexy over a half assed beat that sounds like it took two seconds to put together?

I mean, come on, this shit has over 187 million views..



I think the only real talent I saw in that video was from the guy that did the backflip and the guy that was doing the robot dancing. So what is it then? Why do people like this? Because it's good music? No, because it entertains them. So what are these "artists" if not professional musicians? They're professional entertainers.

So no, I wouldn't trade places with LMFAO specially because I am serious about being a professional musician, not a professional entertainer. I want to make a living making the music I love and intrigues me. I don't want to entertain ****asses that just want to get smashed and party to senseless music.

Putting all this aside, I'm still playing "Party Rock Anthem" on my set. Mashed up with crazy Electro House, of course.

[offki]

To be honest I think that's the 1st time I've actually heard one of their songs all the way through. Reminds me of weird al yankovic a lot.

The point I was making above is that the vast majority of people doing Dance Music are just making a 'normal' amount of money and maybe enjoying themselves, I am, and the ones I know are. You don't need to sell out to get a lot of the benefits and become super rich, if you're doing it purely for money it's your choice but you'd be far better off being a Promoter than an Artist :P

Also, there are more and more ways to make money from this than ever, I know someone who made more of a set of sample CD's than he did off some of his singles. You could go to many many places to look for work on different types of projects without comprimising your own musics integrity.

Also, you seem to be blissfully unaware that people make a lot more money from DJ sets these days, as many have for more than a decade, you can make the music you want and make the money from playing whatever the given crowd at a given night expects of you. I should have just said this straight off because the fact you don't know that really suggests you are an outsider. Collared.

The only reason i care is that you are talking rubbish to a lot of people who want to do this for their life as what you are saying is incorrect and negative it makes you wonder why...?

I'm not sure what to make of your comments Fooloof, you use the word money as if it defines some kind of mythical sum. You ask a blatantly leading question then scamper away. My 'dream' came true when I was about 19, over a decade ago, so unless you have a time machine you would have a hard time breaking it.

Originally Posted by fooloof

The only "fail" is your failure to understand how the business works.

Motown was all about hits. Yes, it was quality music or whatever, but if it didn't sell records, then it didn't matter. LMFAO, regardless of your opinion of them or how "bad" their music is, sells records and has hit after hit after hit.

Yes, it's bubble gum music, but it sells records and opens doors. and you can't do any better or you would have. people like that idiot in the video rant can't do what LMFAO does. why not make 1 or 2 totally BS hits, get rich and then spend the rest of your life making "real music"?

because you can't...

and you would stop whatever you are doing now if you had a chance to work with them. and the people who wouldn't, either have no desire to be in the game, or they are fools.

artistic integrity is undermined the moment compensation enters into the picture.

Yes, it's bubble gum music, but it sells records and opens doors. and you can't do any better or you would have. people like that idiot in the video rant can't do what LMFAO does. why not make 1 or 2 totally BS hits, get rich and then spend the rest of your life making "real music"?

^ So why didn't you do that?

I picked this song just for you




Enjoy!

[Preston135]

It's just sidechained groundloop feedback is'nt it? j/k

for the argument though...

I'd happily prance around in bermuda shorts for 100K+
might beable to buy myself some decent gear and get outta my bedroom.

[Niallerrity]

Originally Posted by Michael E

Produce A Party Rocker Synth Lead and Donk

Hahahaha this reminds me, if you ever wonder why your music doesn't sound like generic rubbish, Just put a donk on it!