arpiar sound

[ztrl]

hi everyone!

i would like to ask your help to analize some tracks.

I'm a big fan of the new romanian artists, i think they produce super complex music. i would like to do something similar, in my way.

my things has the similar instruments, almost the same drum sounds, but the final one doesn't sound well. every time i feel i missed something.

so i would like to ask your help to analize some of these tracks, to know which instruments should i use to get the same world of sound.

first track:



thank you

[ztrl]

okay, to a be a little bit direct, i would like to know more about the melodical part of this track.

which intruments do they use, which key is it, what kind of chords in it? etc....

[gregor z]

I mastered few tracks for Dan Andrei, Praslea & Priku....

They all sent me very dynamic, organic, "analog" sounding mixes, it was a pleasure to work on them.

Their production is on a very high level in my opinion, and I dig the style a lot too...

My2c,

G

[Yoozer]

I could be mistaken but I think I'm hearing a "dark" upright piano. It could be that an existing piece (or several) was the basis for most of the sounds. In some cases they're filtered - by cutting parts after the initial attack and looping them you could get some nice drones going.

[ztrl]

Originally Posted by gregor z

I mastered few tracks for Dan Andrei, Praslea & Priku....

They all sent me very dynamic, organic, "analog" sounding mixes, it was a pleasure to work on them.

Their production is on a very high level in my opinion, and I dig the style a lot too...

yes, i think it too, i know i can't produce as high as them, but i would like to know why they sound good.

i would like to do a little bit deeper and slower tracks, but i want to sound as organic as they.

so the question is, what is the secret of this organic sound. which part adds this mood to their music?

[ztrl]

Originally Posted by Yoozer

I could be mistaken but I think I'm hearing a "dark" upright piano. It could be that an existing piece (or several) was the basis for most of the sounds. In some cases they're filtered - by cutting parts after the initial attack and looping them you could get some nice drones going.

yeah, i know the piano, i only have problems with the chords...

i'm learning now about scales, but i can't create the same moody chords yet.

[ztrl]

another one, same style.

[ztrl]

or this...

i can do the drums now similar to them, of course at my level, the problem is the mood of the track.

[ztrl]

http://soundcloud.com/ztrl/a1

and here is an example, where i'm...

[Ham]

great tune thanks! Im getting really into this analogue modular-esque sound. Be sure to use tiny sounds that give the mix a light and flowing feel. Thin claps kicks and hi hats are a must. Some nice filtering and precise EQ to make everything sound sharp but not too digital.

[ztrl]

Originally Posted by Ham

great tune thanks! Im getting really into this analogue modular-esque sound. Be sure to use tiny sounds that give the mix a light and flowing feel. Thin claps kicks and hi hats are a must. Some nice filtering and precise EQ to make everything sound sharp but not too digital.

yeah, maybe i should use more from them.

in an interview i read that Inspirescu uses a Buchla modular system. Is it possible to buy something similar as a vsti, or a sample pack from the sounds of this instrument?

and about the melodies: which book should i read to learn about these "moody sounds"? is any good book about chords and keys?

[gregor z]

Originally Posted by ztrl

yes, i think it too, i know i can't produce as high as them, but i would like to know why they sound good.

i would like to do a little bit deeper and slower tracks, but i want to sound as organic as they.

so the question is, what is the secret of this organic sound. which part adds this mood to their music?

I suppose that there is a lot of random, evolving noise in their mixes....even some live "atmospheric" recordings of environment noises ...

[ztrl]

Originally Posted by gregor z

I suppose that there is a lot of random, evolving noise in their mixes....even some live "atmospheric" recordings of environment noises ...

so i should use noises from live recordings... okay. thanks

[Daniel Kovac]

do what you like to do ... like they did

[ztrl]

Originally Posted by Daniel Kovac

do what you like to do ... like they did

yeah, but the problem is...i'm not good enough to produce what is in my head, and i don't know where should i start the learning, which way should i go.

[ztrl]

I hear a lot of piano bluir sound in the tracks what I like.

How can I produce bluir sound from simple piano samples?

[skancke7]

bump.. Need more answeres here please

[Branmong]

Originally Posted by ztrl

which book should i read to learn about these "moody sounds"? is any good book about chords and keys?

The chords are very jazzy

Try using chords like Minor 6 /9 or altered chords like Dom7#5#9

Try get a book of jazz chords somewhere - the jazz piano book / Jazz theory book by mark levine are very good but not an easy read by any means, and you'll need to be able to read music.

you could also just try sampling some jazz records - e.g. herbie hancock / joe zawinul - this would be easier than trying to learn jazz theory in a few hours!

[greenears]

Surely they sample heavily. That's probably the biggest "secret."