Andromeda A6 or Prophet 05?

BitseK · 19th October 2011

Which one would you pick, if you had to chose in between the two, and why? Prophet is Rev 2.

Thanks.

Isn't A6 like an addition, meanwhile P5 like a classic more like?
However, why would you even get A6 as an addition, instead of getting P5 + Say a Moog?

wwjd · 19th October 2011

If you REALLY LIKE programming, get the A6. Way more complex abilities, not as strait up to program. If you like basic tweak and go classic, get a P5.

SecretSilencer · 19th October 2011

Are you kidding? If you can even get your hand on an A6 then the gods have blessed you. I used to have one about 10 years ago and wish I never sold it!

There is nothing like it in the universe!

Get a moog Voyager or better yet the XL when you dont find an A6, believe me, you will never find one!!!

Dave Peck · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by SecretSilencer

believe me, you will never find one!!!

..... there are three of them on Ebay right now.....

BitseK · 19th October 2011

I have both available to buy from a friend actually :p
And I just love polyphonic synths, so!
Seems like I'll go for the A6, seems to be a lot of experimental room for playing around with it.

Rob Ocelot · 19th October 2011

Option C: Try the 'Modern' Prophet 5 -- DSI Mopho keyboard polychained to a Tetr4 :-)

casiosk1 · 19th October 2011

A6. Period.

Tnevz · 19th October 2011

Yeah They just stopped making em in 2009 or 2010. It's not like they're impossible to find, just not common considering the price tag to begin with.
I do think the 2001 and/or 2002 models have had some issues. You might want to check me on that tho.

BitseK · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by casiosk1

A6. Period.

Why?

payt · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by BitseK

Which one would you pick, if you had to chose in between the two, and why?

Thanks.

Isn't A6 like an addition, meanwhile P5 like a classic more like?
However, why would you even get A6 as an addition, instead of getting P5 + Say a Moog?

An A6 is more of an allround synth.. it can virtually be the heart of your studio, which is more than can be said of a P5. The reason for that is that the A6 fits seamlessly in a modern midi driven studio.. it can be your main controller as well, if you like.

The P5 has a really nice and organic sound though. The A6 may be able to do most of those sounds as well, but i guess they won't sound exactly the same.

Anyway.. a P5 is way more expensive these days.. i think for the price of a P5 you can buy an Andromeda and say a moog LP/SP, or a Mopho kb so you can still have some of that curtiss sound.

I went for the A6 plus (2nd hand) moog LP option, and for the Curtiss/prophet sound i have the P08. Besides those i have the Juno60 and a MFB synth 2, and these synths cover most bases as far as analog is concerned.

Not sure if that answered your question.. lol.. but there ya go

GeorgeHayduke · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by SecretSilencer

Are you kidding? If you can even get your hand on an A6 then the gods have blessed you...

I'd say if you ever see a P5 the gods have blessed you. I've seen the A6 for sale many times in Denmark (and never at those ridiculously high ebay prices), I have never, I repeat never seen a P5 rev. 2 come up.

FWIW, the A6 never gave me any g.a.s., it doesn't sound juicy like a vintage synth imo, despite the many fans who claim that it can sound like any synth on earth.

pointsource · 19th October 2011

Yeah, there's 3 Andromedas at ebay. They always pop up there. It makes me think that people buy it because of GAS, then realize it's not what they thought it would be and sell it ASAP.

There's a red one in mint condition, really, looks like it was made yesterday:

Alesis A6 Andromeda Synthesizer - RARE RED - MINT!!!! | eBay

**Don Solaris** · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by BitseK

Why?

Noizes are better on A6.

crufty · 19th October 2011

Mopho keys + tetra. That is a hell of an idea. Has anyone actually done this?

Demokid · 19th October 2011

Prophet~5: Simple, easy to program and sounds really good overall.
Andromeda A6: Pretty complex to program but can sound awesome.
Prophet~08: Easy to program, sounds like a Sequential and has some nice modulation features. It is very nice to have 4 LFO’s, and 4x16 step sequencer to modulate stuff with.

GeorgeHayduke · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by pointsource

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Alesis A6 Andromeda Synthesizer - RARE RED - MINT!!!! | eBay

That is about twice the price I see them (at least the standard version) go for elsewhere than ebay.

My take on these prices: Since I'm not in the 'synth game' for money, at all, I basically think people should boycot at those prices. I'm sure many here and elsewhere blatantly speculate and see synths as investment objects. Others will bitch when others charge lame prices, but then go ahead and do it themselves.

The only way to fight the exploding prices and keep instruments with musicians and not fat collectors/investors is to boycot and not be a hypocrite.

BitseK · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by GeorgeHayduke

I'd say if you ever see a P5 the gods have blessed you. I've seen the A6 for sale many times in Denmark (and never at those ridiculously high ebay prices), I have never, I repeat never seen a P5 rev. 2 come up.

There is a rev2 prophet5 on ebay. :o

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Originally Posted by payt

Anyway.. a P5 is way more expensive these days.. i think for the price of a P5 you can buy an Andromeda and say a moog LP/SP, or a Mopho kb so you can still have some of that curtiss sound.

No offense but I think what you are saying is not true, a person I know is selling A6 and P5 in mint condition, and the price difference between the two is 50$.

It's a Rev 2 Prophet 5 to be exact, what are the main differences between Rev 3.x and 2? I assume r2 sounds warmer?

Perhaps I should go for P5 since as someone says it's 'rare' (even though I do not believe it's much more rare than the A6).

Right now I think I'll be heading for the A6+Moog V, but I still haven't decided completely, any help or information on this matter is greatly appreciated!

Zombie H · 19th October 2011

i like both synths a lot - I have an A6, I wanted something analog and really aggressive...

plus I didn't really want a classic analog synth as my main board so the A6 modern build was more attractive than dropping cash on a much older board

the only stuff really giving me GAS since is an OBX and FVS or SOFV (honourable mention goes to PEK)

the A6 is a great synth but sit down and try em both beforehand if you have the chance

BitseK · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by Zombie H

i like both synths a lot but I have an A6

the only stuff really giving me GAS since is an OBX and FVS or SOFV

the A6 is a great synth but sit down and try em both beforehand if you have the chance

I have actually done that, and they both sound great, the a6 preset seems to be made by a 12 year old, so a lot of programming will be needed I guess.
But they both sound so good that's it's hard to decide :( And people are saying that Prophet 05 would be of a bigger value, when I can get it at the same price as A6, would probably be a good deal..

/confused.

GeorgeHayduke · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by BitseK

There is a rev2 prophet5 on ebay. :o

I could only find two rev. 3's? Anyways, I meant locally, I never pay those ebay prices.

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Originally Posted by BitseK

No offense but I think what you are saying is not true, a person I know is selling A6 and P5 in mint condition, and the price difference between the two is 50$. ..

Really

A6 prices are way hyped imo.

Btw., if your friend lives in Europe, I'd be interested in the P5.

Zombie H · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by BitseK

I have actually done that, and they both sound great, the a6 preset seems to be made by a 12 year old, so a lot of programming will be needed I guess.
But they both sound so good that's it's hard to decide :( And people are saying that Prophet 05 would be of a bigger value, when I can get it at the same price as A6, would probably be a good deal..

/confused.

I hear that a lot about the A6 presets but it's really not true (IMHO)...ignore the first 10-20 patches and dig into the preset banks for a bit and find the really good stuff - it is in there

Plus there are TONS of free patches and patch banks for the A6 some of which are light years past the factory stuff

To my ears so far the real key is using the proper amounts of gain at the different mixing stages on the A6, reducing the OSC levels and filter levels makes the sound come alive (imho) then again overdriving levels where you normally wouldn't can be fun too

It's a deep deep synth

GeorgeHayduke · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by Demokid

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Prophet~08: Easy to program, sounds like a Sequential and has some nice modulation features. It is very nice to have 4 LFO’s, and 4x16 step sequencer to modulate stuff with.

It sounds more like a DSI, imo

7 Hz · 19th October 2011

I tried an A6 against a Jupiter 6 and stuck with the Jupiter.

The A6 has loads more mod possibilities and other parameters to tweak, twice the voices, etc etc, but I didn't like the way it sounded compared to the Jupiter, which, to my ears, has a stronger basic tone. Something about the A6's filters and overall basic tone didn't satisfy me.

It depends what you prefer the sound of.

Zombie H · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by 7 Hz

I tried an A6 against a Jupiter 6 and stuck with the Jupiter.

The A6 has loads more mod possibilities and other parameters to tweak, twice the voices, etc etc, but I didn't like the way it sounded compared to the Jupiter, which, to my ears, has a stronger basic tone. Something about the A6's filters and overall basic tone didn't satisfy me.

It depends what you prefer the sound of.

did you try turning off background tuning? reducing gain levels and filter levels in the mixing stages etc....

how do you rank the Jupiter 6 against the JP4?

Zombie H · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by Don Solaris

Noizes are better on A6.

didn't you mention at some point you were developing a patch bank for the A6

payt · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by GeorgeHayduke

It sounds more like a DSI, imo

But.. but.. but.. nevermind :P

**Don Solaris** · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by Zombie H

didn't you mention at some point you were developing a patch bank for the A6

It has been sent to ozone by mistake.

Only 30 patches were found in the backup. So i guess that settles it for a while until i find some inspiration.

GeorgeHayduke · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by payt

But.. but.. but.. nevermind :P

BitseK · 19th October 2011

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Originally Posted by GeorgeHayduke

I could only find two rev. 3's? Anyways, I meant locally, I never pay those ebay prices.

Really

A6 prices are way hyped imo.

Btw., if your friend lives in Europe, I'd be interested in the P5.

Well, I could PM you the contact details, if I decide to go with A6

*predicts a 250 page essay incoming why I MUST buy the A6, and how it will change my life!!*

lol

payt · 19th October 2011

Actually.. what you need is BOTH.. lol.. you should know that coming to these forums

19th October 2011	#1
BitseK Gear nut Joined: Sep 2011 Posts: 79 Thread Starter	Andromeda A6 or Prophet 05? Which one would you pick, if you had to chose in between the two, and why? Prophet is Rev 2. Thanks. Isn't A6 like an addition, meanwhile P5 like a classic more like? However, why would you even get A6 as an addition, instead of getting P5 + Say a Moog?

19th October 2011	#12
pointsource Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 553	Yeah, there's 3 Andromedas at ebay. They always pop up there. It makes me think that people buy it because of GAS, then realize it's not what they thought it would be and sell it ASAP. There's a red one in mint condition, really, looks like it was made yesterday: Alesis A6 Andromeda Synthesizer - RARE RED - MINT!!!! \| eBay __________________ http://soundcloud.com/point-source

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Demokid Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Stockholm/Sweden Posts: 620	Prophet~5: Simple, easy to program and sounds really good overall. Andromeda A6: Pretty complex to program but can sound awesome. Prophet~08: Easy to program, sounds like a Sequential and has some nice modulation features. It is very nice to have 4 LFO’s, and 4x16 step sequencer to modulate stuff with. __________________ *Sizers* AndromedaA6,Casio CZ1,Elka Synthex(midi),Korg MS20/MS50,Minimoog ModelD(midi),Voyager AE,Prophet5 v3.31,ProOne,Prophet08 AE,Jupiter-8(midi),TeeBee MK3,Synthesizers.com Studio66,Yamaha CS30,Ensoniq SQ80 *Drums* Roland DDR30,R8m,DrumStationII *Efx* Eventide H3000D/SE,Lexicon 200,Dynacord DPR20X,Symetrix 606,DeltaLab ADM1024,Korg SDD2000,Roland RE301,TKAudio DP1,Mu-Tron-II,MXR Phrase100,Biyang AD7,Sony MU-R201 *Other* http://soundcloud.com/demokid http://youtube.com/demokid2000

19th October 2011	#18
Zombie H Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2011 Location: Montréal Posts: 1,576	i like both synths a lot - I have an A6, I wanted something analog and really aggressive... plus I didn't really want a classic analog synth as my main board so the A6 modern build was more attractive than dropping cash on a much older board the only stuff really giving me GAS since is an OBX and FVS or SOFV (honourable mention goes to PEK) the A6 is a great synth but sit down and try em both beforehand if you have the chance __________________ www.youtube.com/user/TheZombieHolocaust

19th October 2011	#23
7 Hz Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,039	I tried an A6 against a Jupiter 6 and stuck with the Jupiter. The A6 has loads more mod possibilities and other parameters to tweak, twice the voices, etc etc, but I didn't like the way it sounded compared to the Jupiter, which, to my ears, has a stronger basic tone. Something about the A6's filters and overall basic tone didn't satisfy me. It depends what you prefer the sound of. __________________ "You're going to AMPLIFY this crap?!?!?"

19th October 2011	#2
wwjd Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,410	If you REALLY LIKE programming, get the A6. Way more complex abilities, not as strait up to program. If you like basic tweak and go classic, get a P5.

19th October 2011	#3
SecretSilencer Gear Head Joined: May 2011 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 48	Are you kidding? If you can even get your hand on an A6 then the gods have blessed you. I used to have one about 10 years ago and wish I never sold it! There is nothing like it in the universe! Get a moog Voyager or better yet the XL when you dont find an A6, believe me, you will never find one!!!

19th October 2011	#6
Rob Ocelot Gear maniac Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 248	Option C: Try the 'Modern' Prophet 5 -- DSI Mopho keyboard polychained to a Tetr4 :-)

19th October 2011	#7
casiosk1 Gear maniac Joined: May 2009 Posts: 200	A6. Period.

19th October 2011	#8
Tnevz Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 861	Yeah They just stopped making em in 2009 or 2010. It's not like they're impossible to find, just not common considering the price tag to begin with. I do think the 2001 and/or 2002 models have had some issues. You might want to check me on that tho.

19th October 2011	#14
crufty Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Home Enthusiasm Posts: 3,743 5 Reviews written	Mopho keys + tetra. That is a hell of an idea. Has anyone actually done this?

19th October 2011	#30
payt Gear addict Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 465	Actually.. what you need is BOTH.. lol.. you should know that coming to these forums

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