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Old 18th October 2011   #1
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SYLENTH - is there a complete DVD Training package?

Hey Guys,

Does anyone have a resource that carries DVD or complete dvd packages of Training for one specific Software Synth? In this case My search is for a dvd training pack for specifically SYLENTH.

But if you know of another dvd training package that teaches about all the features and current trend of "Workflow Methods" to creating unique presets or about a Soft Synth that is industry standard by popular producers such as Kaskade or Deadmau5 and of course many others who are very original from the Pop music industry I am open to checking it out.

Note: *Oh and I have already created my own Synth with Reaktor 5 + Sylenth.

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i think your best bet is going to be to comb through youtube and for tutorials on specific synths and also check the developer's websites for other leads.

what might be beneficial to you is just learning about synthesis in general and applying that to whatever softsynth you use. once you learn more about synthesis and various techniques and methods then any synth you use will make more sense to you.

google "sound on sound synth secrets" and you'll find links to many tutorials for how to create various sounds with different types of synthesis.
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I don't know if there's a specific tutorial for Sylenth, but i think you'd do yourself a big service if you just got the basics of analog synthesis down. Sylenth is a very simple synth, so once you got the basics of analog synthesis down, it shouldn't be a problem to program anything you like on it.

Here are some generic tutorials to get you on your way.

MutantAudio.net - Basic Synthesis Tutorial Part 1 - YouTube

Basic Analog Synthesis Part 1.mov - YouTube

And something using sylenth

Sylenth Tutorial: Make a rolling Trance bassline! Jordan Suckley video 1 - YouTube

Good luck! And don't expect to sound like the pro's within a week.. or a month.. or a year.. You need detailed knowledge on a number of disciplines to do so, and since synth programming is one of them, you might as well start there
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Sound Synthesis Education // Synth.tk

As has been said before, once you know how synthesis actually works, soft synths aren't as intimidating. That link is a goldmine and even has a link for a free book on sound synthesis called "How to make Noise"
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Walsh's Synthesizer Cookbook was the one that broke it down right for me when I was trying to figure it all out.
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I've always found just reading the manual really slowly while sitting in front of the synthesizer and trying out each and every function as you read about it really helped me understand a synth better. it sounds simple, but a lot of times you tend to breeze through a manual, or read it when you're not doing it at the same time, or skip big sections. But instead, just read it cover to cover and try to use each function as they describe them and turn each knob in either direction and see what it does. Don't move on to the next function / knob until you have explored it, and really fully understand it to the point where you could turn to the person next to you and teach them what exactly that knob is. Coincidentally I somehow always came up with really interesting patches and half writing songs while reading the manual too. You wouldn't think doing something so "boring" would actually inspire creativity, but somehow for me it does!
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Thanks Boon, I work with flow charts and I understand that in regards to Web Development/Web Programming... so it makes things easier for me.

Is it common for producers to use those flow charts when creating or working with Synthesis?

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i think your best bet is going to be to comb through youtube and for tutorials on specific synths and also check the developer's websites for other leads.

what might be beneficial to you is just learning about synthesis in general and applying that to whatever softsynth you use. once you learn more about synthesis and various techniques and methods then any synth you use will make more sense to you.

google "sound on sound synth secrets" and you'll find links to many tutorials for how to create various sounds with different types of synthesis.
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Thanks I saved all these links:
I work with flow charts and I understand that in regards to Web Development/Web Programming... so it makes things easier for me.

Is it common for producers to use those flow charts when creating or working with Synthesis?

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I don't know if there's a specific tutorial for Sylenth, but i think you'd do yourself a big service if you just got the basics of analog synthesis down. Sylenth is a very simple synth, so once you got the basics of analog synthesis down, it shouldn't be a problem to program anything you like on it.

Here are some generic tutorials to get you on your way.

MutantAudio.net - Basic Synthesis Tutorial Part 1 - YouTube

Basic Analog Synthesis Part 1.mov - YouTube

And something using sylenth

Sylenth Tutorial: Make a rolling Trance bassline! Jordan Suckley video 1 - YouTube

Good luck! And don't expect to sound like the pro's within a week.. or a month.. or a year.. You need detailed knowledge on a number of disciplines to do so, and since synth programming is one of them, you might as well start there
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Thanks that is true... that is what I do, when I learn i sort of create/produce loops or songs when I go along with it as well.

Note: *Oh and I have already created my own Synth with Reaktor 5 + Sylenth. Its pretty easy so far creating my own gain, and knobs with a saw sync type.

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I've always found just reading the manual really slowly while sitting in front of the synthesizer and trying out each and every function as you read about it really helped me understand a synth better. it sounds simple, but a lot of times you tend to breeze through a manual, or read it when you're not doing it at the same time, or skip big sections. But instead, just read it cover to cover and try to use each function as they describe them and turn each knob in either direction and see what it does. Don't move on to the next function / knob until you have explored it, and really fully understand it to the point where you could turn to the person next to you and teach them what exactly that knob is. Coincidentally I somehow always came up with really interesting patches and half writing songs while reading the manual too. You wouldn't think doing something so "boring" would actually inspire creativity, but somehow for me it does!
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It's also helpful to analyze outstanding presets, especially with Sylenth it's very easy to do because all important parameters are on one page.
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Ableton Live Video Tutorials, Cubase Video Tutorials, Music Production Video Tutorials, Logic Pro Video Tutorials, DJ Video Tutorials | SonicAcademy.com - Create. Record. Perform. have some great tutorials about various types of music production and use Sylenth (in a tutorial kind of way) in most of them
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Walsh's Synthesizer Cookbook was the one that broke it down right for me when I was trying to figure it all out.

yup this is a great starting point
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Thanks I saved all these links:
I work with flow charts and I understand that in regards to Web Development/Web Programming... so it makes things easier for me.

Is it common for producers to use those flow charts when creating or working with Synthesis?
hmm well i can only speak from my own experience, but i don't think many people use actual charts, and neither do i.

The thing is that various elements of a synthesizer can interact in diverse ways with eachother, so i guess it's kindof hard to make a flowchart. However, you can identify basic elements which a synth consists of. Most are now based on the layout of such classics such as the Minimoog. It sortof looks like this:

OSCILLATORS - FILTER - ENVELOPES

LFO


So you have one or multiple oscillators that go into a filter, and then the signal goes into an envelope generator. Besides that there are usually one or more LFO's which can be used to modulate stuff like the pitch of an oscillator, or the waveform, or the filter cutoff frequency, or any number of other destinations.

For example: a minimoog looks more or less like this, schematically:

OSCILLATOR 1 - MIXER - FILTER - AMP ENVELOPE/FILTER ENVELOPE
OSCILLATOR 2 -
OSC 3/LFO (switchable on a minimoog)

SO there are 3 oscs, 2 of which can be detuned relative to osc 1, then their signal goes into the mixer where the volume of each of the oscs can be set. Then that signal goes into the filter, where the sound can be coloured by the filter settings (cutoff, resonance). Often there are 2 envelopes, one hardwired to an amplifier so it influences volume, and another one hardwired to the filter, so you can influence the way the filter behaves as long as you press a key.

The oscillators themselves have a number of variables. There's the relative pitch which can often be selected in octaves, and/or a detune knob so you can detune oscillators relative to eachother. You can also select the waveform for each of the oscillators, anbd this determines the basic 'colour' of the osc. If there is a square waveform, then it's waveform can usually be influenced with a 'pulsewidth' knob to influence it manually, or you can assign it to an LFO.

An LFO is a LOw Frequency Oscillator. It doesn't make any sound by itself, but is a control signal that can be assigned to a number of elements, such as the pitch of an osc, the filter, PWM, etc. Usually the LFO has a selection of waveforms, such as sinewave, sawtooth or square. This determines how the LFO influences it's destination.

You may also encounter a number of different types of filter on a synth. LPF (Low Pass Filter) is the most common one: you can have it cut off frequencies which lay above the cutoff frequency. A HPF (High pass filter) does the reverse: it cuts off frequencies below the cutoff point. A Bandpass filter does both at the same time, and only passes a frequency range between the HPF and LPF cutoff frequencies.

So there.. a very basic overview of a synth. The ony way to really find out how to work with it is through experimentation.. I'd recommend sticking to one particular synth at first, untill you know it inside out. I'd recommend something like synth1, since it offers a very common structure, sounds great and it's free. Once you know it well, move on to other synths, and you'll instantly recognize most of the features.

http://www.geocities.jp/daichi1969/s...Synth1V112.zip

Enjoy, and if you have questions, feel free to ask
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I dont know of one for sylenth but tbqh sylenth is pretty bog standard in terms of programming. Just practise and practise and over time you get slowly better, then one day you're a god laughing at the presets ;p

I watched a general synthesis guide a long time ago and i've never seen anything since even half as good, I will look up the title when I get home.

Also, reverse engineer peoples patches, can learn untold amounts that way.
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Sylenth has no dedicated Pulse-width modulation.

How to people get around this problem when using Sylenth?
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Sylenth has no dedicated Pulse-width modulation.

How to people get around this problem when using Sylenth?
"The Inv button inverts the oscillator’s output. This can be useful when creating PWM-like sound effects. For example, if you add two saw oscillators and invert one of them, the resulting waveform will be a pulse. You can then adjust the pulse width by changing the phase of one of the oscillators."

(It's in quotes because it's straight from the Sylenth manual, which even has a nice little illustration.)
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You can't overemphasize how useful R'ing TFM can be. I just spent a couple of weeks with Ozone's manual and mastering guide with the software open, revisiting tunes I'd finished before buying it.

Learned a load about Ozone and mastering in general and all my old tunes now sound better than before.
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"The Inv button inverts the oscillator’s output. This can be useful when creating PWM-like sound effects. For example, if you add two saw oscillators and invert one of them, the resulting waveform will be a pulse. You can then adjust the pulse width by changing the phase of one of the oscillators."

(It's in quotes because it's straight from the Sylenth manual, which even has a nice little illustration.)
Thing is, Im only using one pulse wave OSC. Would you say by using a pulse wave means its already been modulated? Is that what a pulse wave is? thanks
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Thing is, Im only using one pulse wave OSC. Would you say by using a pulse wave means its already been modulated? Is that what a pulse wave is? thanks
Not quite. A pulse wave is a wave that is either square or rectangular, depending on the width of the pulse.

Sylenth only has static pulse waves built into the wave list (but you can choose from a few different widths of pulse). The above description from the manual shows a workaround to get pulse wave modulation (PWM).

Many analogue style synths allow you to manually set the width of the pulse or modulate it from things like LFOs, envelopes or the mod wheel on a keyboard.
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Well, I would visit youTube and learn from Sylenth tutorials or visit sonicacademy.com - I remember that a lot of their videos used Sylenth and they had some basics covered.
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