Fastest tempo possible

[satak]

20 million BPM's. Is this possible?
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How could you do it and witch sequencer would you use to create that?

[controlvoltage]

twenty million beats per minute per second. Wow, that's fast!
Actually, BPM's per second isn't a tempo, it's a rate of tempo acceleration.
So in order to get 20 million BPM per second, you'd need to start at zero BPM and then ramp up to 20 million over the course of a second.

Now to your second question, what sequencer could do this?
Answer: Not any, because human hearing seldom goes above 20 thousand cycles per second, so if you try to sequence twenty million events inside of the same second, most of them will be outside your range of perception.

Hope that clears up this very serious question.

[Yoozer]

You don't use a sequencer, you use a sampler where you decrease the loop time.

[BTByrd]

Clock any analog sequencer with an audio rate square wave.

[Brainchild]

Mine goes to 30 million BPM per second, so **** you.

[satak]

Lol, of course I meant to say 20 million BPM. So that's jsut beats per minute. Is it possible without a sampler?

[Yoozer]

Hardware sequencers generally top out at 240 bpm. Of course, you could quadruple that by putting a kick drum on every 16th note, but there'd be no nuance. Ableton Live goes to 999 bpm.

Another way would be to create 4 kick drums and to duplicate and shift the pattern for the smallest amount possible. Or if you're truly hardcore, play 64 kick drums at the same time and let the serial nature of MIDI take over. Probably not that reliable, though.

All of this is a pretty pointless exercise since above a certain BPM it's just going to sound like audio anyway.

[seen-da-sizer]

Originally Posted by satak

Lol, of course I meant to say 20 million BPM. So that's jsut beats per minute. Is it possible without a sampler?

Let's see: 20 million BPM, that is 333333.333333333333333 beats per second. Therefore you need a sampler that goes up to 666.666... KHz (two samples per beat). I somehow believe an Akai may not cut it though.

[Dave Peck]

"Yes, but THIS one goes up to eleven".

[fanriffic]

20 million BPM,would be 333,333 beats per second...or over 333Khz.


Drums at that 'tempo' would just become an inaudibly high pitch..(we can't hear anything above about 20k...so more than 16x that...)



"dude,listen to my new track...it's so fast you can't actually hear it."



"er...coooool"

[bizness80]

Originally Posted by Dave Peck

"Yes, but THIS one goes up to eleven".

Mr. Peck for the win!

[Lute]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

Ridiculous.

Yep. It's gonna sound like one note surely?

[blinky909]

let's see. with my 24 ppqn Roland DIN sync connected to my KMS-30 running at 48ppqn with the bpm set to 300 on the MPC i can get 600 bpm (counting 16th's).

jungle on the 808 is fun.

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by Lute

Yep. It's gonna sound like one note surely?

you need to do way more crank, that's all

[Beermaster]

Four on the floor at 440 makes a concert A.3 tone...... double it to make each octave above.......880 A.4, 1760 A.5, ....onwards up to 9 ocatves which starts to quickly become the edge of most people's hearing ability.....

So a million or more BPM is really talking about mega Hertz, - radio frequencies ...nothing to do with audio nothing to do with music or beats or rhythm or anything.

'A Fastest tempo' is kind of not important as a BPM figure because composers and musicians subdivide, multiply any basic tempo to give a faster "METER' .... 80 BPM can be a nice slow jam.... double the FEEL and you have 160 ..... based on an 80BPM Base tempo....... It's all relative to the base pulse.

[blinky909]

Originally Posted by Beermaster

'A Fastest tempo' is kind of not important as a BPM figure because composers and musicians subdivide, multiply any basic tempo to give a faster "METER' .... 80 BPM can be a nice slow jam.... double the FEEL and you have 160 ..... based on an 80BPM Base tempo....... It's all relative to the base pulse.

and that's how i learned to beat match drum and bass back in the day, not with the kick, but the feel of the groove halved (if that makes sense).

[Dubtek71]

I am pretty sure Moby made a song that does something like this. Starts slow then goes to 1000bpm. I think it was in the Book of world records. Basically the beats just turn into a tone. kinda pointless really...

[Mardi Gras]

Wait so NONE of you guys have taken a bitchin' synth solo whilst hitting the different notes through tempo modulation?! Jesus live a little guys.

[AJ Reynolds]

Originally Posted by fanriffic

20 million BPM,would be 333,333 beats per second...or over 333Khz.


Drums at that 'tempo' would just become an inaudibly high pitch..(we can't hear anything above about 20k...so more than 16x that...)



"dude,listen to my new track...it's so fast you can't actually hear it."



"er...coooool"

my pet bat said it was shit.

[seen-da-sizer]

Originally Posted by Beermaster

Four on the floor at 440 makes a concert A.3 tone...... double it to make each octave above.......880 A.4, 1760 A.5, ....onwards up to 9 ocatves which starts to quickly become the edge of most people's hearing ability.....

440 BPM (Beats/Minute) does not equal 220 Hz (Cycles per Second). But you're right that it is going to be inaudible.

Also I thought A4 is 440Hz, therefore A3 is 220Hz. Am I wrong?

[Akh]

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

The use of extreme tempo was very common in the fast bebop jazz from the 1940s and 1950s. A common jazz tune such as "Cherokee" was often performed at quarter note equal to or sometimes exceeding 368 BPM. Some of Charlie Parker's famous tunes (Bebop, Sha Nuff, Donna Lee) have been performed at 380 BPM plus. John Coltrane's "Giant Steps" was performed at 374 BPM.

Link.

Tempo doesn't get much higher than that, practically speaking.

[teknosmoker]

At 1,000 BPM, Moby's "Thousand" used to hold the Guinness world record for the fastest tempo of a track ever released back in the day.

I used to like Moby back then.











-T

[satak]

Have you listen that track I posted? It has 20 million BPM's and it just sound like a "trship...". So analog sequencer with an squarewave oscillator input for clock signal?

20 000 000 BPM / 60 = 333333Hz (AKA Beats Per Second)
333333Hz/ 4 = 83333Hz (put drumhit to every 16th step on sequencer)
83333Hz / 4 = 20833Hz If you have a sequencer that can do 1/64 beat

Then you just need an oscillator that goes to 20833Hz. Easy?
Can someone try that :D

[golden beers]

@4.21 is slightly relevant to this thread