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All in One soft synths?

Are there any all-in-one soft synths? I usually find that when not using a rompler, I have to go through a fair amount of FX processing after I've created my initial sound, OR, the effects included within the synths are quite terrible. (I despise Sylenths reverb.)

So I'm looking for synths, not romplers, that include great FX for processing your sound to the fullest extent all within the synth. I'm looking for that virus sound, however, I can work with anything. I'd prefer a subtractive synth with old analog style/everything on 1 page/ gui, but I know that might not be possible with what I'm asking.

z3ta+ 2 is looking good for me right now especially at $99. However, even with the redesigned gui, it looks a tad more complex than my simple sylenth gui.
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Camel Audio Alchemy can do just about anything, if the programmer is inclined and has the know how. Look up some videos on youtube, it sounds pretty fantastic.
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If the effects are going to be meh anyway most people would consider the lack of them to be a feature, not a bug.

Synth Squad was designed with that in mind - you have a separate FX block (Fusor) where you can modulate all parameters in the same way as you do in the synths themselves. They outsourced reverb to Breverb if I recall correctly.

Thing is, a company that's dedicated to making great reverb (say, Altiverb) is virtually always going to do a better job than a "textbook DSP" reverb that's going to be included in a synth, so you should not be looking for all-in-ones.
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+1 for Alchemy it covers just about everything.
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If the effects are going to be meh anyway most people would consider the lack of them to be a feature, not a bug.
Don't most softsynths have a global disable effects option? If not, which do?
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+1 for Alchemy it covers just about everything.
Alchemy is amazing but it has no FM.
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Alchemy is amazing but it has no FM.
They're putting FM in the next update, aren't they?
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Tone2 ElectraX should fit your requirements:
- very nice sound quality
- modern sounds
- their synths mostly offer "one screen GUI"
- effects are good

but it's deep, far deeper than simple VA / Subtractive synth.

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http://www.tone2.com/Tone2_ElectraX_Synthesizer.mp3

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They're putting FM in the next update, aren't they?
I think so but I don't know when it's supposed to come out and whether it's going to be anytime soon ?
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Zebra 2 is a nice all in one.
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Rob Papen Predator is one screen and pretty Virus-like.



Pick up a copy of Computer Music magazine and you can have Zebra CM, a reduced feature version of Zebra that's all on one screen.

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Yep, impulse buy right after listening sound examples new version is pretty much everything one needs...
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Well, just listen to our audio demos, you'll understand what the synth is capable of:

http://soundcloud.com/kv331synthmaster/sets/preset-demos/
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Demos ive heard of papen's predator sound very much virus and waldorf like. I might pick it up rather then grabbing an ultranova...

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The routing flexibility and modularity of working in software is, for me, one of the best things going for it. I like to mix and match. Really I think the only things that could be an all in one, do everything tools are modular dsp environments like Max/MSP, Reactor or Pure Data. Granted until you have a library of tools built that you like ready to go building your tools while trying to make music is a work flow killer for a lot of people... I guess some people use Reason to do what you want, I am not really a fan though and have not put in enough time to tell how well it does "everything"
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Dune by Synapse Audio sounds exactly like a Virus A/B/C and everything is on the main GUI. I have a couple of Viruses, and Dune nails the sound.

I love ElectraX, Alchemy and Zebra, but they don't have that "Virus" sound the OP was looking for. (ElectraX is awesome).

Oooh, gonna have to check out Synthmaster...sounds promising...
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By definition, an 'All In One' softsynth has to be capable of emulation of the following classic synthesizers : Minimoog, Polymoog, Sequential Circuits Prophet 5, ARP Pro-Soloist and a Roland Jupiter 4. ----- (This is on page 125 of the Synthesizer Bible).
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By definition, an 'All In One' softsynth has to be capable of emulation of the following classic synthesizers : Minimoog, Polymoog, Sequential Circuits Prophet 5, ARP Pro-Soloist and a Roland Jupiter 4. ----- (This is on page 125 of the Synthesizer Bible).
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There is no "all in one" soft synth... some are good at VA, others at FM, some PM, PD, WS, you name it...

One of the most complete I have seen is ElectraX in terms of types of oscillators but that does not mean the best sound ever for each kind of oscilator...

The end point is a matter of taste... I have Omnisphere and somethimes Zebra for an "all terrain" synth and DCAM very special bass, strings and leads...

You can have good electric percussion with almost any synth and some practice...

Good endeavour...!
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So here's what I don't totally understand.... are you ready?

Why would anyone one want an "all in one synth."

I think it's the wrong question... you got X cash for Y stuff.. you know what I mean? What difference does it make if Y comes in the form of various programs versus one program?

If you have X amount of money and want to do it all, what should you do? I guess that's the question I'd more likely ask and I'd probably go "ah, buy Komplete or something?"

So then there's questions like.. well I don't know.. if you want to "do it all," what exactly does that mean? Like.. ok.. there's various forms of sound synthesis... so doing it all might mean you want tools that are good for all of those forms of sound synthesis..

Or.. maybe not.

I'm reminded of.. when I didn't know anything yet.. and I wanted something that would do it all, so I bought Reaktor.. but the trouble was, at the time, Reaktor was so processor inefficient.. and computers were so much weaker then they are today.. that it wasn't really the best solution.

I mean.. if you were to say FM Synthesis I'd say "well, look at FM8" if you want basses I might say "talk a look at Trillin."

And.. I don't know.. the other thing is there's this old school idea of learning a tool inside and out so that you can squeeze little bit of minutia out of a thing.. today.. there's so many freaking presents and synths and samplers are so cheap.. that you really have to go out of you're way to focus on that one little thing.. but in many ways that one little thing.. can kinda bring you into a world of everything...

I second the idea that.. well I never understood why virtual instruments came with effects unless they were sorta.. well... modulate-able by the synth or was just an integral part of the sound of what that synth was supposed to be.

But you know.. then I guess it's like the questions of price versus performance and how much x amount of performance is worth to you.
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I Use Zebra 2.5 for everything i think it´s great, and

It has tons of features.

You can automate and control everything in the synth with about just anything in the synth =)

From my experience there are alot of nice synths out there, so my advice is to pick one of the top suggested and start learning.

I have experience from these synths:

Absynth is really cool and can do alot of stuff but it´s kinda hard learning.
FM8 is a great synth and easy to use
Massive is also good and easy to use
Predator is ok i guess
Reaktor can do anything almost but it´s harder to learn
Razor is also really cool and is easy to use
Sylenth1 is good
Alchemy is also very good, and you can synthesize samples with it
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