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Old 9th August 2011   #1
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Anybody know of a plugin that can automate the min/max MIDI input velocity?
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Anybody know of a plugin that can automate the min/max MIDI input velocity?
I don't know what you are trying to control... but ordinarily, I'd achieve something similar to this by adjusting the setting on the synth that governs how much effect the velocity affects whatever parameter it is that you are dealing with (eg, output level being the most obvious).


... Effectively, this way, you still have the same dynamic of velocity... but you reduce the affect it has.
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I don't know what you are trying to control... but ordinarily, I'd achieve something similar to this by adjusting the setting on the synth that governs how much effect the velocity affects whatever parameter it is that you are dealing with (eg, output level being the most obvious).


... Effectively, this way, you still have the same dynamic of velocity... but you reduce the affect it has.
Thanks. I'm actually looking for a plugin that specifically sets the min/max input velocity of the notes being played (between 0 and 127). I know I could automate the output volume, but I specifically want to automate the pressure of the keys being sent to a virtual instrument.
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yea dude a midi filter....Cubase has a bunch of them.
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Thanks. I'm actually looking for a plugin that specifically sets the min/max input velocity of the notes being played (between 0 and 127). I know I could automate the output volume, but I specifically want to automate the pressure of the keys being sent to a virtual instrument.
I can't help but feel you've misunderstood what I was trying to say (not 'automating the output volume')... but it seems Mike Vee has a more direct solution for exactly what you are seeking anyhoo.
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yea dude a midi filter....Cubase has a bunch of them.
I need something that isn't host specific. But thanks for the reply.

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I can't help but feel you've misunderstood what I was trying to say (not 'automating the output volume')... but it seems Mike Vee has a more direct solution for exactly what you are seeking anyhoo.
Sorry, I read your reply too fast. I know what you meant now. But what about when using, say, a sampler that triggers a unique sample based ENTIRELY on the velocity of the note pressed? I'm SURE there must be a MIDI control plugin on the market that has this function.
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Makes sense.

Have you tried looking for non-Cubase 'midi filters' that Mike suggested?
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Makes sense.

Have you tried looking for non-Cubase 'midi filters' that Mike suggested?
I always research before I ask and a KVR/Google search came up with two possibilities: VeloMaster (no VST, MFX only ) and J's MIDI Tools that may not even do what I'm looking for. I'm just hoping I overlooked a plugin that does this as maybe an EXTRA feature and may not be advertised as a MAIN feature.
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I always research before I ask and a KVR/Google search came up with two possibilities: VeloMaster (no VST, MFX only ) and J's MIDI Tools that may not even do what I'm looking for. I'm just hoping I overlooked a plugin that does this as maybe an EXTRA feature and may not be advertised as a MAIN feature.
I have a feeling Logic does this as well (besides Cubase). What DAW do you use, and are you certain it doesn't already have what you need?
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Also... given your specific example of a Rompler with different samples for different velocities... you could always change the mapping of the patch, and then perhaps use this in combo with my first suggestion.

Of course, this will take time per instance... so if you can get this midi filter, it sounds like a simple solution.
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what daw are you using?

Just in case it helps at all in your search, here is what is looks like in Cubase 5 on my PC:





It's a midi plugin that you can add from a list on any midi channel...they have like 20 different ones that do all kinds of stuff. Cubase is freakin' awesome.

p.s. i just noticed that random feature above! I am going to try that on hi hats right now with a slight window from 110 to 127...will be nice to add some live feel...in fact holy crap i am getting so soooo many ideas right now I never used any of this stuff before, I just remembered seeing it because i always try to explore all programs to the max at least once a month to discover new stuff.
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If I understand correctly, you want a plugin that maps velocity of incoming notes from [1,128] to user-defined range [min,max]. This can be easily done with a JS script and the free ReaJS VST plugin.

I could write such a script if you're interested
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Instead of focusing on something that automates velocity, why not just tell us what you want to do?

You have a sampler. Then what?

(and if that lame joke about the oscillators and detuning is made again, please bang your head against the wall for being unoriginal and stale).
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I agree... I think that midi modifier in Cubase looks like something I'd like to try out myself as I generally have stayed away from that MIDI stuff because I don't like to get overcomplicated in the tech side while creating until later....BUT...with some hard to manage programs I can see it being a huge tool to help minimize or maximize the velocity.

I may just try that.
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also, i don't know if this helps...but my akai MPK 61 also allows me to set velocity min. and max. velocity so maybe look into that with your midi controller.
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Ableton has a midi velocity plug
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Instead of focusing on something that automates velocity, why not just tell us what you want to do?
I already explained what I want to do. "I specifically want to automate the min/max pressure of the keys being sent to a virtual instrument."

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If I understand correctly, you want a plugin that maps velocity of incoming notes from [1,128] to user-defined range [min,max]. This can be easily done with a JS script and the free ReaJS VST plugin.

I could write such a script if you're interested
I found a plugin that does what I'm looking for. Its called Dualism by Ugo. Works great and does a few other things too. But thanks for offering. Thats really awesome of you. Thanks for the replies everyone.
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