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Old 9th August 2011   #1
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I was thinking of picking one of these up and I would plan on primarily using it as a send effect... I was just wondering if there is anything I am missing that would prevent me from doing so?

Also, does it sound better than most ITB reverbs out there? I have seen/heard YouTube videos but they don't ever seem to cover the territory i would use it in. Are the algorithms it uses all that?
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maybe

Well, it's subjective. I sold mine, but it's the best I've ever used.

Previously, I've had experience with a Lexicon MX200/400 (forget numbers), a Nova Reverb (which I really disliked), and the Space.

To me, the Space still sounds a little too sterile, though it has some interesting (if not overpowering?) modulation capabilities. I think it's easy enough to use, but would have preferred a dial to jump directly to a list of labelled reverb modes, versus all of the presets. It doesn't sound like a convolution reverb either.

I think my ultimate realization was that I didn't think Reverb was necessary and it sounded a bit too digital on top of my mostly analog synths, and they didn't need any help to sound like I wanted them to. For instance there are some nice demos of the Space on top of a Voyager, and it sounds great, but in a mix isn't really neccessary when you can just set a long decay/release on the actual synth.

Further, my other frustration was that, as it only has the stereo input, I'd have to reverb something at the expense of another. My mixer's sort of annoying with setting up sends/return levels properly so I just didn't like doing it that way.

So, not wanting to use a computer (because it's my day job), OTB, I just decided dry is what works for me.

Anyway... the Space... if you like Reverb and need something OTB, I'd say try it, and you might like it. Some places (ex: Amazon) have pretty good return policies when you're within the window.
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eventide's reverbs are badass.. and can definitely give you something different from just increasing decay/release

hardware is nice. portable, sturdy and everything. but i've heard what Valhalla DSP's "Shimmer" can do and it is an outstanding software reverb, you should definitely check it out

and if you want to test the quality of Valhalla's software yourself you can check out their free plugin Freq Echo... which i'm always hesitant to tell people because it just sounds so kickass
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Any more opinions on Space? Im thinking of getting one. I don't have anything Eventide currently, so is this a reasonable way to get a dollop of Eventide!? Is it at all comparable to it's larger brothers?
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I quite like it. But take my opinion with a grain of salt as I've never used any other eventide products or other hardware reverbs for that matter. My only comparison is ableton live's built in reverb.

I like the space's range of reverb from basic and subtle to extreme sound morphing madness. I also find it inspiring to use, it brought new life to my synths and even helped me come up with some new riffs (some of these reverbs can completely change the sound). It's great for experimenting and can almost be used as a sound design tool to some extent.

As for how well it works in a mix well I guess that's really up to you. Since you can tweak it to be as gentle and transparent or extreme and in your face as you like I imagine you'd have no trouble fitting it in your mix providing you tweak it accordingly.

I'd say if you want a unique fun reverb that can bring new life to otherwise sterile sounds definitely get it. If you just want bread and butter basic reverb then it can certainly do that, but you'd be missing out on a lot of what it can do IMO.

To my ears it sounds great, but my ears haven't been spoiled by more expensive reverbs yet ...

Here are some videos I made of the space processing a voyager and prophet 08.

Space + Voyager:


Space + Prophet 08:


More Space + Prophet 08 (the drums aren't being processed by the space):
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Thanks for those Blood I had seen a couple of them already..
I just like that it has a lot of knobs, and no menu diving! I got all kinds of effects boxes already, so im also hoping one of these might provide a different flavour..

Im sure I read of a couple of people around here who have a Space and also 1 or 2 of Eventides more substantial effects boxes. But no comments from them yet?
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... but in a mix isn't really neccessary when you can just set a long decay/release on the actual synth.
uhh... what?

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Damn impressed by the Valhalla stuff having owned an H8000FW for 2 years and sold it a few months back
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As you can see on this thread "new gear thread august 2011" I had an Eclipse and the Space for a while. The Eclipse is pretty impressive, especially on synth etc. but the Space was very disappointing to me. It sounded nothing like the Eclipse, even Blackhole sounded like crap on the Space. Somehow the sounds and the reverb didn't merge on the Space. Get ValhallaRoom, it's pretty amazing for its price!
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Its a nice little box. Especially for the money.
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I use the modfactor for my chorus f/x. I love it. I've wondered how the reverb would be as well. I have some PCM's to fill the reverb need though.
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I quite like it. But take my opinion with a grain of salt as I've never used any other eventide products or other hardware reverbs for that matter. My only comparison is ableton live's built in reverb.

I like the space's range of reverb from basic and subtle to extreme sound morphing madness. I also find it inspiring to use, it brought new life to my synths and even helped me come up with some new riffs (some of these reverbs can completely change the sound). It's great for experimenting and can almost be used as a sound design tool to some extent.

As for how well it works in a mix well I guess that's really up to you. Since you can tweak it to be as gentle and transparent or extreme and in your face as you like I imagine you'd have no trouble fitting it in your mix providing you tweak it accordingly.

I'd say if you want a unique fun reverb that can bring new life to otherwise sterile sounds definitely get it. If you just want bread and butter basic reverb then it can certainly do that, but you'd be missing out on a lot of what it can do IMO.

To my ears it sounds great, but my ears haven't been spoiled by more expensive reverbs yet ...

Here are some videos I made of the space processing a voyager and prophet 08.

Space + Voyager:


Space + Prophet 08:


More Space + Prophet 08 (the drums aren't being processed by the space):
I see the space has switches to accept line and mic level inputs and send either line or mic level inputs. If using it live would you send the outputs through direct boxes or use mic level and straight to the snake/mixer?

BTW, very cool videos, great sound.
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