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18th July 2011
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| Gear Head Joined: Sep 2010
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Thread Starter | Top Headphones for mixing 100% perfect.
Top Headphones for mixing 100% perfect. What should i buy ? Help from mixing engineer please  |
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18th July 2011
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jun 2010
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No headphones will get you as close as a good pair of reference monitors. There isnt enough bass representation, and your stereo image will not be accurate. If you need a good pair tho I would recommend the AT50's.
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18th July 2011
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| Gear Head Joined: Sep 2010
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18th July 2011
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| Gear Head  Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Finland
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| Headphones | HeadRoom Audio If you can't buy monitors headphone.com is pretty good site for trying to find the most suitable cans for you. I ended up buying AKG K 240 MK II with the help of the site but you might need something more bass heavy. |
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18th July 2011
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Dunno your budget but I really liked Beyerdynamic DT990 when I tried 'em and they are quite bassy. Also the already mentioned AT50's are nice with electronic stuff.
Last edited by Toseben; 18th July 2011 at 12:48 PM.. Reason: Mixed DT990 up with DT770. |
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18th July 2011
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| Gear for Lives.  Joined: Jan 2011 Location: Brighton UK
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18th July 2011
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| Gear Head Joined: Oct 2010 Location: Magog, Quebec
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Seinheiser HD600 (open back is better if you must mix with headphones....more bass). If money is no object get a good D/A converter. I got the benchmark DAC-1 USB which is a great match for the Seinheisers. |
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18th July 2011
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Grace Designs headphone amp & Sennheiser HD series. Get what you like. Sony has some, Beyer Dynamic and AKG too. All very good choices. You tell us what you like best.
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18th July 2011
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| Gear nut Joined: Jul 2010 Location: Stockholm Sweden
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Beyerdynamic T1, T70 or DT 990 Edition   |
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18th July 2011
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jun 2010
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Not sure the price of the others I know the at50's will only run you around $100. I wouldnt invest much more then that on phones.
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18th July 2011
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| Gear addict  Joined: Nov 2004 Location: Pacific N.W.
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+1 on the Beyerdynamic DT990 phones. I think they're great.  |
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18th July 2011
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Yeah... I mix down on headphones and monitors back and forth. If I do most of the mixing on headphones, then play it pack through monitors, I notice my kicks and bass lines are MUCH too louder than everything else...but at the same time, headphones I can hear much more transient, background and hidden noises (like slight faint delays that fade out) in the mid to upper registers that I have a hard time hearing through monitors.
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19th July 2011
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| Gear addict  Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Perth, Australia
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I have the DT 770 Beyer's which good - my only complaint is that after about an hour or so they give me a headache as they are quite tight on the head
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19th July 2011
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| Gear addict  Joined: Oct 2006 Location: lake district
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man, there's a thread on the same page about the same thing. ever heard of search?
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19th July 2011
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| Gear maniac  Joined: May 2010 Location: San Antonio
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DO NOT mix in the cans. Save up for monitors. tutttutttutt Peace. |
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19th July 2011
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| Gear maniac  Joined: May 2010
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Would people like you stop saying that......  ........................not everybody has the ability to use monitors!!
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19th July 2011
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19th July 2011
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| Gear maniac Joined: Jun 2009
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I've got Denon AHD2000's, the 7000's little brother, and they are incredible. Agreed about Denon's |
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19th July 2011
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| Manic Modulator  Joined: Jun 2011
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I highly recommend the Sennheiser HD650s . . . they're really open and the bass is huuuuge :] You can easily hear sub-bass on these things!
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19th July 2011
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| Gear maniac Joined: May 2010
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No,no,no.....The 650's are way to hyped in the low end, they sound muffled. The worst thing about them is that they have no detail in the high end. They are very veiled imo. I had them for 6 months and had to sell them. I figured i'd try the 600's, thinking they'd be the same, but not at all. Amazing headphones. Great smooth highs and clean( a little shy however) bass. | |
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19th July 2011
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| Gear addict Joined: Sep 2009
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For dance music with heavy bass i still like my classic HD25-1 phones even more than my HD650 but you need to know them quite well they have kind of DJ sound but after 6 year with them my mixes translate pretty well even on my few pairs of speakers after some random night mix session.  |
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19th July 2011
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| Lives for gear  Joined: Dec 2009
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People tell you not to mix in cans because they're a very inaccurate source. Why: Entire separation of L+R No natural room reflections So... Your reverbs will sound bigger than they are. Your bass won't cancel if it's out of phase Your transients won't sound right. Your sound design will be wrong. So yeah you can do it, but you have to know the headphones really well, and compare it to a decent monitor mix. It's not an easy way to learn.
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19th July 2011
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| Lives for gear  Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Between the Notes, Iowa
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A lot o generalizations here... Often, open backed is better, but not always. The Denons have some of the best deepest cleanest bass out there, and they are closed backed. They go much deeper and cleaner than most monitors. They are unusual though. Although accurate neutrality is also rare in cans, it is certainly no rarer than in monitors in real world rooms. In fact, it is much easier and cheaper to get reference quality sound from top quality cans than with monitors, although monitors will always offer a different and critical perspective. Given that much of the current consumer listening is done on ear buds, one wonders what the most appropriate way to monitor is anymore... Any monitors or cans will need to learned... In any case, the OP said he has monitors... Agreed that the Sennheisers are overly warm and fuzzy; sweet though... and although the 650s are an improvement over the 600s in some ways, many feel the 600s have a better overall balance. Agreed that the Denons are great. They are a bit hyped in the low bass and highs, although the low bass is clean and very helpful in sussing out bottom end issues that would not show up in almost any other cans and not many monitors without a subwoofer. I find all the Beyers bright. Although a bit low bass shy, the 880s are much flatter in the lower end than the 770 or 990, both of which are seriously hyped in the bass. The M50s are good for the money but not the end o the line. Not spend more than a $100 on cans? Why not? They're good but I like the Denon AH-D2000 much better for as little as $200 street, and there are much better still... I haven't heard them yet, but the Audeze LCD-2 are supposed to be the sh*t if you can afford them; not to mention the Stax if you really wanna pull out the stops, along with the check book... Still no mention from the OP about budget... And agreed that there are dozens of identical threads... SEARCH! 
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19th July 2011
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| Lives for gear  Joined: May 2010 Location: Peterborough - England
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I'm picking up a pair of KRK KNS 8400. Initially they'll be for the artist but I figure I might use a pair to check mixes...
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19th July 2011
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Between the Notes, Iowa
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They look like good bang for the buck... Let us know how you like em... and what you're comparing them to...
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19th July 2011
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the AT50s will definitely give you the bass you need. Too much bass, imo. It makes your mix seem more bass-heavy than it really is. so, you need to keep that in mind if you buy them.
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19th July 2011
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Between the Notes, Iowa
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agreed about the M50s. I just looked up the frequency response of the KRK. The highs are unusually un-hyped, but they look to be a bit hot around 2-4kHz and they have a MAJOR boost around 100-300 along with a big boost in the very low bass, so not very accurate but sweet, and affordable. "Looks" like the M50s would be more accurate for the same money. Still rather pay twice that for the Denon AH-D2000. |
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19th July 2011
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| Lives for gear  Joined: Feb 2011 Location: Australia
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If you mix with cans, you need to crossover each channel, or use the VRM function in the Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 DSP, which adds a bit of room and speaker modelling to that. Which is why I have one  |
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