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Old 16th July 2011   #1
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Skrillex Pitching...

I've been listening to Skrillex lately, and there's one thing I'm very curious about, it's at 1:36 in this video:



How would you go about doing a three or four note different pitch sound like this? I'm sure it's simple but I only just got into electronic music, and while I know my way around Logic, I sometimes get overwhelmed thinking about how to pull of these kinds of things in it..
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you'd play the corresponding notes on your midi keyboard.

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I've been listening to Skrillex lately, and there's one thing I'm very curious about, it's at 1:36 in this video:



How would you go about doing a three or four note different pitch sound like this? I'm sure it's simple but I only just got into electronic music, and while I know my way around Logic, I sometimes get overwhelmed thinking about how to pull of these kinds of things in it..
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...please elaborate. Is that really just a synth played on a keyboard? It sounded to me like he cut it up and pitched a line... If that is just a synth, what has he done to it to make it sound like that?
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This sound is heavily based around the resampling process.

Bounce out a synth, load it into a sampler and get creative.

Pitch envelopes and looping, and re-resampling, LFOs modulating looping pitch envelopes, etc. LFOs re-re-reresampling why are you still reading this
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I've been listening to Skrillex lately, and there's one thing I'm very curious about, it's at 1:36 in this video:



How would you go about doing a three or four note different pitch sound like this? I'm sure it's simple but I only just got into electronic music, and while I know my way around Logic, I sometimes get overwhelmed thinking about how to pull of these kinds of things in it..
You modulate the pitch of an oscillator with an LFO. He probably (most likely) used Massive for this. Try different wavetables, wavetable positions, distortion types, etc.
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Then I suppose I need to get far better at Massive...

One thing though - if it is modulating pitch with an oscillator, wouldn't it just be automated rather than done through an LFO? I'm pretty new to learning synthesis but isn't an LFO oscillating? How would that be worked into this example?
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Then I suppose I need to get far better at Massive...

One thing though - if it is modulating pitch with an oscillator, wouldn't it just be automated rather than done through an LFO? I'm pretty new to learning synthesis but isn't an LFO oscillating? How would that be worked into this example?
You don't want to go around automating the pitch when you can just have the synth do it for you with the right programing. Use an LFO, the step performer or an envelope. After that you can just automate the speed of the LFO or step performer. It's much easier to do it that way rather than drawing the automation in Logic. It probably wouldn't be too hard on Live, but you can't bend the automation on there. Best way is definitely to do it with modulation.
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Yes, it's basically re-sampling. Take a Massive sample, chop it at certain zero crossing points then pitch across the whole keyboard in your sampler of choice and set it to loop as long as a key is pressed.

It's probably the the womp-womp bass played many octaves up.
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I think it's probably a combination of the techniques people above described. It's not like anybody is limited to just one technique.
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You mean this sound?

Sound example

(it's made with an analogue synth which adds some unwanted extra crackle in the sound. with digital synth there won't be such a problems)
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sounds like quite a bit of work to achieve that sound
Try building a violin
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you detune two oscillators....

then sample them into an S950

Then record it to to logic

then sample it again :v
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you detune two oscillators....

then sample them into an S950

Then record it to to logic

then sample it again :v
then you sidechain, you sidechain everything

even the kick
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For a rough approximation of the sound at 1:36 in that video - open the filter and modulate your VCA with a relatively fast square wave LFO. Try it out in ES1 with the LFO speed all the way up and adjust as necessary.
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For a rough approximation of the sound at 1:36 in that video - open the filter and modulate your VCA with a relatively fast square wave LFO. Try it out in ES1 with the LFO speed all the way up and adjust as necessary.
Seems to be a simple enough solution! Thanks will give it a go myself
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then you sidechain, you sidechain everything

even the kick
To itself!
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than what?
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Sidechain again and then some more.

It's the answer to life itself.
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