How do em producers become brave?

[crufty]

When i listen to my favorite tracks, i notice an element of bravery...something gutsy that no way could i do...but they did, and it works.

Whether its an approach, or looping a certain way, or any number of things...how do folks learn to be brave?

[kraku]

It's probably just trusting your gut feeling and taste that "if it sounds good, it is good."
"No added bravery in this product."

[T.R.]

Confidence in your own taste. If it sounds good, it is good. If this means that something completely strange is pleasing your ears- use it. Don't think about the possible reactions of possible listeners or what the market us demanding right now, just use it.

Which essentially can be boiled down to bring brave, eh?

All the best!

[offki]

Comes with experience, I don't really mean production experience either, just being out in clubs and seeing how the crowd reacts to certain things, otherwise just stay drunk for the entire production duration..

No offense fenfire but you may be confusing bravery with stupidity, though some say there's a fine line.

[Entrainer]

You weren't initiated?

Ok. It's not that hard.

Take 40 hits to the chest. Then we circumcise you
with a nice long blade. If you cry or even flinch,
no brave tracks for you.

Psychedelics and bees are also involved.

[splitradix]

Originally Posted by crufty

When i listen to my favorite tracks, i notice an element of bravery...something gutsy that no way could i do...but they did, and it works.

Whether its an approach, or looping a certain way, or any number of things...how do folks learn to be brave?

I think you're confusing bravery with originality.

[Psynthman]

Originally Posted by Entrainer

You weren't initiated?

Ok. It's not that hard.

Take 40 hits to the chest. Then we circumcise you
with a nice long blade. If you cry or even flinch,
no brave tracks for you.

Psychedelics and bees are also involved.

Sign me up for your next psychedelic bee circumcision. Minus the bees and the circumcision.

[MegaTech]

Originally Posted by splitradix

I think you're confusing bravery with originality.

[T.R.]

Originally Posted by offki

No offense fenfire but you may be confusing bravery with stupidity, though some say there's a fine line.

And that's where the magic resides.

[kosmasepsilon]

bravery brings originality. that means, if you're not afraid to try new things then your sound becomes something new, something original, not something everyone else is doing, aka imitate.

Originally Posted by splitradix

I think you're confusing bravery with originality.

[clusterchord]

there is no recipe/formula,

to put it bluntly, if one got no talent and no taste, no matter how brave and original things he/she does, its still gonna suck. well, 99% of the time anyway. accidents are always possible, but usually end as one offs, or one hit wonders.

[symmetricalSound]

bravery or just a motivation to make the music you want to hear?

[Ghosty Dog]

Originally Posted by Entrainer

You weren't initiated?

Ok. It's not that hard.

Take 40 hits to the chest. Then we circumcise you
with a nice long blade. If you cry or even flinch,
no brave tracks for you.

Psychedelics and bees are also involved.

[asynchro_nous]

A persistent fear of being bland and overly derivative has got to help.

[watari banzai]

ignorance of music theory/"proper" studio technique also works wonders

as do mood altering substances/sleep deprivation

[cramseur]

Bravery is a fireman rushing into a burning building to save people,
or our armed forces protecting our asses in armed conflict.

Musicians adding flares to their genre...cool, but not particularly brave.

[firby]

You need to stop being a wussy man!


Make more mistakes. Travel in a few new circles. Grow a bit. Listen to new things. Bravery will come with practice and penance.

[offki]

Bravery is just stupidity that doesn't fail.

[zerocrossing]

I don't know if I think of myself as brave, but I will say that I think I achieve what you're talking about by having nothing to lose. When I do anything musical I think of one person only. Myself. I don't care if my wife runs screaming out of the room and my pets cower in fear or disgust. Even when I used to play live I'd start out with something I thought was my most "out there" piece. Weed out the weak! If I played to 4 people, then I knew they were there for the same reasons I was playing the music and I could do as I please.

Don't get me wrong, I've tried doing a more conventional pop music thing and... it ended up horrible. I hated it. It seemed like the more successful we got, the more I hated what we were doing. At one point I gave it up and I've never been happier.

Make music for yourself and "to thine own self be true."

[3phase]

Originally Posted by splitradix

I think you're confusing bravery with originality.

yep-- but in his magix music maker world where other copy cats confuse originatlity with stupidity while they do their anal studies what works on the dancefloor or not it is probably brave to be original. But i gues its just related to brain capacity.. from a certain point its just boring t do what is supposed to be done.. you can have this kind of thrill as an officer to with better pension payments... so what some experiance as bravery or stupidity here is actual creativity itself. And not seeing it as such tells much about the people that get it wrong in the first place.

[RyanC]

I think by making 100's or even thousands of tracks. Then you kinda have to do something because the same ol' same ol just isn't really gonna blow your mind anymore.

Most successful artists in any genre have probably 50:1 tracks vs amateurs.

[cixelsyd]

Originally Posted by splitradix

I think you're confusing bravery with originality.

originality requires a certain level of courage/bravery to take the risk of being original (and unlike anyone else with enough familiarity that the difference is not viewed as bizarre.

[zosthegoatherd]

I think it comes from defeating and eating the hart and brain of defeated (but worthy) opponents

[Bumply]

Sure, it's not bravery or courage in the context of life or death, like a fireman in a burning building.

But...

Creativity requires a kind of courage though, a coming to terms with oneself and ones limitations, a willingness to expose your ideas to critics.

[hogberto]

the stench of bullshit in this thread is overwhelming.

someone open a window.

[zosthegoatherd]

Theoretically DMT would replace the brain eating bit.

[DarkPlasma]

Originally Posted by firby

Make more mistakes.

That's what its all about. End of thread lol

[stilts27]

Originally Posted by crufty

When i listen to my favorite tracks, i notice an element of bravery...something gutsy that no way could i do...but they did, and it works.

Whether its an approach, or looping a certain way, or any number of things...how do folks learn to be brave?

Look at this every time i step in the studio now...

[cramseur]

So wait ...it this thread asking..."How can I become brave, too?"

seriously?

I say you can't. Certainly not by asking how to in a forum.

[poserp]

You detune two oscillators then... Bravery!