Sasha - Cut Me Down remix competition

[hmmm]

Anyone else entering the sasha remix competition? I don't enter remix competitions but this one is an exception. The prize is better than any other remix competition, ever.

If you have entered. post a link to you remix and tell us a bit about the gear so we can all have a listen and get behind our fellow gear slutz.

My remix... click and have a listen, and like it to.

https://burn-studios.com/track/hmmm/sasha_cut_me_down-1


Used an Xpander heavily to rewrite the chord progression after i melodyned it to find the exact notes, some H3000 and freeware plugins. Some U-he Ace and all drums/percussion is from our good friend Entrainer and DMD.

[Eric J]

Considered it, but I wouldn't be able to travel in the unlikely event that I won. IN any case, there are several established producers who are dominating right now, so I think it'd be pretty tough to win it at this point.

The cynic in me casts a dubious eye towards these types of contests anyway, because I have had some notions that tell me that the contests are not always fair. The producers who submit remixes are not always on a level playing field.

Case in point, a pretty big Russian progressive house label recently did a remix contest. There were several very good remixes in the contest that clearly were candidates to win and had a lot of public support. When the winners were announced, the three winning artists were, you guessed it, all Russian producers. Don't get me wrong, the winning mixes were up to par, but there were still several mixes that were clearly better, with more public support, that did not win.

In another case, 4 remixes from a huge progno label were posted up on the label SoundCloud account. There was one mix that was clearly head and shoulders above the rest, but that mix did not win, The winner just happened to be the brother of a very established techno producer in the same circles as the label owner. Even the comments on the winning mix after the announcement were overwhelmingly derisive of the decision. Hard to believe that is coincidence.

I don't know, I don't really have any hard evidence of impropriety, but I just find scenarios like that more that a bit suspicious and I have a hard time believing that type of stuff is coincidence. I think if you are trying to establish a presence as a producer in this industry, you're better off putting your energies into producing original content rather than participating in these contests.

[hmmm]

Originally Posted by Eric J

Considered it, but I wouldn't be able to travel in the unlikely event that I won. IN any case, there are several established producers who are dominating right now, so I think it'd be pretty tough to win it at this point.

The cynic in me casts a dubious eye towards these types of contests anyway, because I have had some notions that tell me that the contests are not always fair. The producers who submit remixes are not always on a level playing field.

Case in point, a pretty big Russian progressive house label recently did a remix contest. There were several very good remixes in the contest that clearly were candidates to win and had a lot of public support. When the winners were announced, the three winning artists were, you guessed it, all Russian producers. Don't get me wrong, the winning mixes were up to par, but there were still several mixes that were clearly better, with more public support, that did not win.

In another case, 4 remixes from a huge progno label were posted up on the label SoundCloud account. There was one mix that was clearly head and shoulders above the rest, but that mix did not win, The winner just happened to be the brother of a very established techno producer in the same circles as the label owner. Even the comments on the winning mix after the announcement were overwhelmingly derisive of the decision. Hard to believe that is coincidence.

I don't know, I don't really have any hard evidence of impropriety, but I just find scenarios like that more that a bit suspicious and I have a hard time believing that type of stuff is coincidence. I think if you are trying to establish a presence as a producer in this industry, you're better off putting your energies into producing original content rather than participating in these contests.

That sucks about the Russian fiasco, did you enter that one?

I whole heartily agree with everything. And the nepotism doesn't stop at remix comps. Producers, DJs, promoters, hell everyone else in the music industry and life gets many leg ups because of who they know despite other people being better and more fitting in many ways. Such is life.

This is a prize not to be missed. I know i wont win it, there are some heavy weight producers in the ring already (Lank's remix is mint). At least this contest doesn't pretend its only about talent. They state on multiple occasions that the most popular mix will win. At least it will attract some serious talent and hopefully one of them will be worthy to start or further their carrier.

I definitely agree its best to put efforts into original work, but it can be a good learning experience and promotion for unknowns.

It feels to me though that the explosion of remix comps has arisen from the mediocre producers trying to get exposure/increase audience/pretend they are bigger than they are by appealing to naive people who think "shit lets remix that song from that producer i've never heard of to try and win a copy of NI Massive and a years premium soundcloud account, some DJ t-shirts and a signed copy of the CD/Album/single when it comes out.... Fvck yeh!"

Sasha is the only person besides M83 or telefon tel aviv who i would remix. And the latter don't come across as the NI Massive/soundcloud/t-shirts/signed base ball cap with fresh gold sticker-type.

Its a good chance to get some stems and muck around anyway.

[Eric J]

Originally Posted by hmmm

That sucks about the Russian fiasco, did you enter that one?

Yea, but I didn't really have any expectation of winning. My remix was pretty good, but there were several others that were better. I kind of did it as a one off and didn't really devote too much time to it as I had other, contracted remix work that was due around the same time. I did enough to make my remix "good", but others did enough to make theirs "exceptional".

Originally Posted by hmmm

I whole heartily agree with everything. And the nepotism doesn't stop at remix comps. Producers, DJs, promoters, hell everyone else in the music industry and life gets many leg ups because of who they know despite other people being better and more fitting in many ways. Such is life.

Yeah, always been that way. Its worse in the DJ world, trust me.

Originally Posted by hmmm

This is a prize not to be missed. I know i wont win it, there are some heavy weight producers in the ring already (Lank's remix is mint). At least this contest doesn't pretend its only about talent. They state on multiple occasions that the most popular mix will win. At least it will attract some serious talent and hopefully one of them will be worthy to start or further their carrier.

The guy who is winning right now also entered one of the contests I alluded to previously (and probably should have won). His remix was mint, while the one that won was "meh".

Originally Posted by hmmm

It feels to me though that the explosion of remix comps has arisen from the mediocre producers trying to get exposure/increase audience/pretend they are bigger than they are by appealing to naive people who think "shit lets remix that song from that producer i've never heard of to try and win a copy of NI Massive and a years premium soundcloud account, some DJ t-shirts and a signed copy of the CD/Album/single when it comes out.... Fvck yeh!"

For a lot of labels, it's a way to get a good release together from a subpar original track. This is not always the case, but more often than not, the track being remixed is typically a "filler" tracks thats just sitting around, and the hope is that they get enough decent remixes back from the general public to package together into a servicable release. It's a win-win for the label. They get another release, and they get a ton of remixes back without having to pay established producer(s). That's also the reason the prizes are typically so lame. Most up-and-coming producers are doing it for the exposure anyway, and the labels know that.

This remix contest is a bit of an exception simply because of who it is. Sasha is going to draw in a LOT of producers, both big and small, simply because of the name and what he represents to the industry at large. Still the same rules will likely apply.

I'll admit that the prize on this one is really, really good. Easily the best prize I have ever seen for one of these things. It's nice to see a contest like this with such a decent reward, and make no mistake, if a relatively unknown producer wins the contest and their remix gets a lot of play, it can launch that producers' career. That's pretty much what happened to Sander Klinenberg when two of his tracks were included on GU013 Ibiza. Being associated with a name like Sasha is worth it's weight in gold.

Originally Posted by hmmm

Sasha is the only person besides M83 or telefon tel aviv who i would remix. And the latter don't come across as the NI Massive/soundcloud/t-shirts/signed base ball cap with fresh gold sticker-type.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that doing remixes in general is a bad idea, far from it. Just the idea of doing remix contests for anything other than fun or practice. Like I said above, this one represents a bit of an exception to that rule, simply because of the potential reward, but by and large, most of them are a waste of time, even if you do win.

Mostly, doing the remix contests are fine if you are just looking to practice, but entering them expecting to win and have it benefit your exposure I think is mostly a waste of time (for the reasons stated above).

Doing remixes in the context of working with a label with whom you have an established relationship is just as good as doing original work. Sometimes it's better simply because if you as an unknown producer can remix an established producers work and get a lot of play, it can do a lot for your exposure.

[Primativ]

I can't remember the band name, but there was a remix for the Ultra Music Festival a few months back, and the producers who won already knew the band, were from the same country (florida) and had gigged together before...bit of a coincidence considering it was an 'International' remix competition...they band say it was just coincidence and that the winners were chosen honestly because they had the best remix but many people were not happy....

anyway, I agree Eric remix competitions are great for practice, and or you love the original track/producer...

[wwjd]

who will post the link to the original remix contest downloads?

[artech909]

Guys! don't waste your time with all this shit like a remix competitions and stuff like that it's always about PR for label and (or) artist NOTHING MORE.
In today music business ATTENTION from your target audience is so hard to get (but this is the main thing) so lables spend as much time & money as possible on promotional events. (including RMX comps)
I work in pro music business with POP & commercial EDM artists, producers all the time in my studio and i know all this stuff pretty well so don't waste your time use it for your own sparkling ideas and you will get more profit.

[SCDBM]

http://soundcloud.com/dropboxmastering/sasha-cut-me-down-raphie Here's mine:

[Liquid360]

Wait, I'm not saying I'm BETTER than Sasha, but was that (https://burn-studios.com/track/hmmm/sasha_cut_me_down-1) really THE song? 'Cause he definitely needs help. WTF, Sasha used to be good.

[hmmm]

Originally Posted by Liquid360

Wait, I'm not saying I'm BETTER than Sasha, but was that (https://burn-studios.com/track/hmmm/sasha_cut_me_down-1) really THE song? 'Cause he definitely needs help. WTF, Sasha used to be good.

Haha, nah thats my remix of it. Im glad you like it

[hmmm]

Originally Posted by wwjd

who will post the link to the original remix contest downloads?

Get the stems from here:

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Originally Posted by SCDBM

http://soundcloud.com/dropboxmastering/sasha-cut-me-down-raphie Here's mine:

Thats a really cool mix. Post a link to the Burnstudios page so i can help you out and vote for it

Originally Posted by artech909

Guys! don't waste your time with all this shit like a remix competitions and stuff like that it's always about PR for label and (or) artist NOTHING MORE.
In today music business ATTENTION from your target audience is so hard to get (but this is the main thing) so lables spend as much time & money as possible on promotional events. (including RMX comps)
I work in pro music business with POP & commercial EDM artists, producers all the time in my studio and i know all this stuff pretty well so don't waste your time use it for your own sparkling ideas and you will get more profit.

Yeh most remix comps are like that. But this one is different. the prize says it all. And its not some random artists fighting for recognition

[ksandvik]

Nearly all remix competitions (if not all) are there just promote the original artist and the track. Don't expect any recognition and big deals even if you win.

But it' a good way to learn various techniques and otherwise have fun.

[SCDBM]

ThnX you can vote here

[Nev]

let's not forget the shady Laidback Luke remix competition that was mysteriously extended 3 more days at the LAST MINUTE, all those last-minute submissions that were unfinished, or not mastered, were pissed off. And to make it worse the winner was one of the very late entries that got submitted during the extended 3 days time. There were quite a few better remixes than the winner that were submitted on time that got passed up. And to think, it was a pay-to-enter remix competition.

I won't say the popular electronic music website that hosted the shady competition, but we all know who they are.

[hmmm]

Originally Posted by ksandvik

Nearly all remix competitions (if not all) are there just promote the original artist and the track. Don't expect any recognition and big deals even if you win.

But it' a good way to learn various techniques and otherwise have fun.

Have you even looked at this remix comp... i guessed not. Check out the prize for this.

[faux]

yes i am entering

[ksandvik]

Originally Posted by hmmm

Have you even looked at this remix comp... i guessed not. Check out the prize for this.

Well the only good thing is that Sasha is the judge and he has integrity.

[hmmm]

Originally Posted by faux

yes i am entering

post up your track so we can help you out.

[SCDBM]

Currently more than 400 submissions, this one is massive
i just hope they don't make a prejudgedment based on social networking potential (i.e. rank the tracks based on facebook "likes")

[Primativ]

Originally Posted by SCDBM

Currently more than 400 submissions, this one is massive
i just hope they don't make a prejudgedment based on social networking potential (i.e. rank the tracks based on facebook "likes")

Unfortunately it seems to say they will select the initial top tracks based on votes/rankings....which is lame. They should listen to them all and pick the best now go on how many friends producers have to get their track voted for. Anyway I haven't entered but it seems a waste of time. You are much better off putting the time and effort it would take into making an amazing remix into making an original track and getting it out there...

[Gunark]

Frankly if you pop up with a barnstormer of a mix in say, 6 months time and get some hype up on boards, soundcloud, etc then you'd get as much if.not more exposure that way and attract their (the original artist or company) attention instead of going to them. See Futureshock as a (sort of) example.

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[hmmm]

Originally Posted by Primativ

Unfortunately it seems to say they will select the initial top tracks based on votes/rankings....which is lame. They should listen to them all and pick the best now go on how many friends producers have to get their track voted for. Anyway I haven't entered but it seems a waste of time. You are much better off putting the time and effort it would take into making an amazing remix into making an original track and getting it out there...

Yeh totally agree. It is unfair to an extent, i saw one remix has over 2000 facebook likes. while the average might be 10 likes. Some well established producers can really promote their mixes beyond the means of everyone else. Luckily to be selected for the 14, Alex actually listens to the top 100 and selects 14 people (how biased it will be is another matter, but i have faith that this stage will uncover the seriously talented mixes). Unfortunately the final prize is done on public votes but because there is such a large number of entrants im sure there will be worthy producers. I bet it will drive traffic for that site like a mofo.

[hmmm]

Originally Posted by Primativ

Unfortunately it seems to say they will select the initial top tracks based on votes/rankings....which is lame. They should listen to them all and pick the best now go on how many friends producers have to get their track voted for. Anyway I haven't entered but it seems a waste of time. You are much better off putting the time and effort it would take into making an amazing remix into making an original track and getting it out there...

Yeh totally agree. It is unfair to an extent, i saw one remix has over 2000 facebook likes. while the average might be 10 likes. Some well established producers can really promote their mixes beyond the means of everyone else. Luckily to be selected for the 14, Alex actually listens to the top 100 and selects 14 people (how biased it will be is another matter, but i have faith that this stage will uncover the seriously talented mixes). Unfortunately the final prize is done on public votes but because there is such a large number of entrants im sure there will be worthy producers. I bet it will drive traffic for that site like a mofo.

[burnstudio]

Less than a week to go, you gotta be in it to win it

http://youtu.be/p4f-EQpoQ2s

[msl]

"oh oh oh oh, vote for my track, vote for my track, please, please, please..."


its bullshit made to drive facebook 'likes'. I mean if it actually was the general public voting it might not be so bad but its just other producers all begging each other for a vote, its beyond lame. People that do that get an automatic delete from my social networks. Head on over to FOEM and sign up for some remix contests, actually judged by the artists and labels as the best.


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[kosmasepsilon]

had a go at it too, it's a great opportunity for us poor producers to be listened, thru the whole shit-music majority that makes it near impossible for our tracks to reach the cream of djs. Kinda agree with you msl on your comment, but it's either this or nothing, y'know.. i myself don't feel i sold my soul :p
did a remix on an artist that i respect and wouldn't have the opportunity to remix him otherwise

have a listen to it, you might enjoy!!

https://burn-studios.com/track&#8203..._epsilon_remix


LOL @ "oh oh oh oh, vote for my track, vote for my track, please, please, please..."
Should be more like: "Send me to Ibiza for free, pleeeease!!!!!!!! Ooooh, and maybe New York too, come on!!!"

[SCDBM]

464 entries and counting

Originally Posted by kosmasepsilon

had a go at it too, it's a great opportunity for us poor producers to be listened, thru the whole shit-music majority that makes it near impossible for our tracks to reach the cream of djs. Kinda agree with you msl on your comment, but it's either this or nothing, y'know.. i myself don't feel i sold my soul :p
did a remix on an artist that i respect and wouldn't have the opportunity to remix him otherwise

have a listen to it, you might enjoy!!

https://burn-studios.com/track&#8203..._epsilon_remix


LOL @ "oh oh oh oh, vote for my track, vote for my track, please, please, please..."
Should be more like: "Send me to Ibiza for free, pleeeease!!!!!!!! Ooooh, and maybe New York too, come on!!!"

[SCDBM]

You've got my like and a comment to keep u going

[kai handberg]

Its not a remix contest - its a promotion/spam contest.

[SCDBM]

yes it is, curious who will be the winners though
- for the names being picked
- production style
- production quality

I mean if the people who spam to 1000 Facebook walls, get 3000 listens and 500 likes are the one who win, even if the track is shitty... that would be dissapointing. Also if any of the Burn Studio's up and coming artists are one there would be dissapointing as well. nearly 500 submissions, i would like to see some new names and really HQ productions being picked here.