11th June 2011
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#1 | | Lives for gear
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Thread Starter | UK to Australia
This might seem like a daft question but I really don't know about this stuff - My wife & I are moving to Australia next year. I wanted to have all my gear shipped over but I don't know what I do about the different mains supply  Will my stuff work over there & how?! Cheers |
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11th June 2011
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#2 | | Sonic Hooligan
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240 volts, so the same as here (UK). No idea if the plugs are the same though? But that should be the least of your worries.
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11th June 2011
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#3 | | Gear maniac
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The plugs are different.
I've used quite a few UK bought things here (sydney) using an adapter without any problems.
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11th June 2011
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#4 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2010 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Yep, just bring a few UK power boards over and you'll be set.
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11th June 2011
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#5 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by IndigoBandit Yep, just bring a few UK power boards over and you'll be set. | By force, or may we go there by choice...lol
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11th June 2011
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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Cool. I didn't realise it was 240V over there! So UK boards with an ozzie converter to the mains & problem solved  Now I just need to find a reliable shipping company to get all my s**t over there!!
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12th June 2011
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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And our sockets look like this:
Also any gear that connects via IEC connections (also called a 'kettle cord', 'jug plug' 'computer power cable' i.e. rack gear with an internal power supply) Tends to be able to accept 110-240 anyway - so you can just change up your IEC cables when you get over here with a bunch of cheap ones from ebay etc
Power over here is 240v 50hz AC. The 50hz is important, I'm unsure if its 60hz for the POMs (had to sneak that in). I assume it is also 50hz like over here no doubt due to some ancient colonial decree lol
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12th June 2011
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#8 | | Gear Head
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Australia is actually 230v as of 2000 although 240v is still within its tolerable range.
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12th June 2011
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#9 | | Lives for gear
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So if 240v 50hz is the same as the UK then all you would have to eventually do (just a UK power board with UK to AUS plug adapter in the meantime)is do the following
Switch your IEC's - by IEC I mean you can replace you plugs that look like this:
With plugs that look like this:
And for everything else buy a bunch of these: 
they run 50 cents (thats AUD) a pop
And yeah it is technically 230v but for somereason everybody still says 240v and all gear new or old can do 230-240
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12th June 2011
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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Great. Cheers for the info. Looks like it's going to be less of a bo***ck ache than I initially thought |
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16th October 2012
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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...... Well, I'm here & just last week our shipping arrived. So this week I've been setting up all my stuff again. Everything is working fine ..... except my PC, which doesn't seem to have survived the trip!  It's posting continuous bleeps. A quick look at the manual indicates this POST pattern could be a power problem. So could it be that the PSU is not compatible with Aussie power? Or could be (not very old, good quality 'BeQuiet') PSU be buggered after the journey?!  Anyway, great to be here |
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16th October 2012
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#12 | | Gear maniac
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What are you shipping over there? I would be interested in what kind of quote your going to get for the shipping.. I live in Aus but I have been working in London and saving up spending almost every penny on equipment. I am going back also next year (btw mate your going to love it in Aus, it's so much better than this shit place. Your going to LOVE IT)
I'm going to buy a power conditioner and kill two birds with one stone, most of my gear will connect to that.
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16th October 2012
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#13 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by studiomood What are you shipping over there? I would be interested in what kind of quote your going to get for the shipping. | We shipped about 24 large boxes + a few extra large ones & 2 mountain bikes. Total cost with insurance was around 1,700 queen heads!! It's not cheap! I've already been onto the shipping company to see if the 500+ we forked out for insurance might cover the fact that my computer is fooked!! Waiting on a response. Everything else was cool though. Took almost 4 months to get here! Crazy amount of time. 2.5 months at see, the rest of the time with the f**kwits in customs & a slightly less than competent agent Australia end. But it's here now so all good |
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16th October 2012
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Dogboy73 But it's here now so all good  | ..... apart from the fact that my computer is fooked every way from Sunday!!! |
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16th October 2012
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by seppuku Australia is actually 230v as of 2000 although 240v is still within its tolerable range. | My voltage currently measures as 247. It's always high where I live. Hasn't been an issue though.
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16th October 2012
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#16 | | Lives for gear
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Have you checked if all the parts of your PC are plugged in correctly (eg. memory, PCI cards etc)? Might just be a loose connection.
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16th October 2012
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#17 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by studiomood What are you shipping over there? I would be interested in what kind of quote your going to get for the shipping.. I live in Aus but I have been working in London and saving up spending almost every penny on equipment. I am going back also next year (btw mate your going to love it in Aus, it's so much better than this shit place. Your going to LOVE IT)
I'm going to buy a power conditioner and kill two birds with one stone, most of my gear will connect to that. | If all you do is spend every penny on gear you can't really comment on London life. I'm doing exactly the same thing at the moment and yes it gets boring. Get out and do stuff! Believe it or not there is more to London than cheaper gear!
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16th October 2012
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#18 | | Lives for gear
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Yeah London is good  I'm struggling a bit in Oz to be honest. I'm in Cessnock, with is a bit out in the sticks. Lots of country music and quite backwards people! But this is just the beginning at the In-Laws until we start working and hopefully moving somewhere different.
But anyway, messed around with the PC some more last night. It's buggered. Can't get it working! :(
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16th October 2012
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#19 | | Lives for gear
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In Cessnock (I've never been there but looking at the map .... looks a bloody long way from anywhere I'd chose to live...) and with no PC working. Sheee, no wonder you're struggling. Hahaha...actually I'm sure Cessnook has some appeal for a visit...
If you can get out to explore Oz a bit you'll be amazed. Even heading close to the coast ... eg. Terrigal , around the Central Coast (between Sydney and Necastle) is a beautiful little town. All along there is beautiful.
Head into Sydney for a visit. Get to know the in-laws, try to relax. Emigrating is a significant step. Well done for taking the plunge!
I can assure you, while you may be struggling to find your feet at the moment, Australia will reward you with it's inspirational sights and sounds. Not to mention our economy craps all over the UK right now.
Musically, what do you play?
Do you have any mechanism to record little scratch demos...just to capture ideas? Until your PCs back up and running.
Cheers,
Julian
Melbourne
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17th October 2012
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#20 | | Richard Gear
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Yep London to Cessnock would be quite a culture shock.
A big move like that is a brave step, so well done.
I'm sure you will find your feet in Oz, it is a pretty good place to live, but you may have to venture beyond Cessnock.
And get someone to look at your computer, they are probably the easiest piece of gear to fix, as it is usually just one component that goes, and they are all cheap to replace.
All the best!
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17th October 2012
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#21 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Oct 2002 Location: Oz
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Originally Posted by Mr Arkadin =really iks me when people say London is shit. | Same here.
I think it comes down to where you come from. Aussies generally love Oz, Brits generally love the UK, although it's a national habit to complain about the place.
Both Oz and UK have good and bad points.
Many, many Brits who move to Oz turnaround and move back a few years later. It's a much bigger cultural change than most people realise. Me too.
Regarding London, I don't miss the ratrace or the crap summers. Where I live in Oz it's sunny nearly every day, but the music scene is extremely quiet and tough going. I'm not a meat eater, hate both rugby codes and don't surf. So conversation with locals gets limited real quick.
But like I said, there are good and bad aspects to both places.
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#22 | | Lives for gear
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Who would say "London is shit"? Really...
Anyhooo I grew up in the UK and while there are things the world over I'd love to see .... New York is aweome.
I'd still prefer to retire in the warmer climes of Oz ...
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17th October 2012
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#23 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Mr Arkadin Later in the week I'll be seeing Daphne Oram's (BBC Radiophonic Workshop gal) Oramics machine at the Science Museum. | i went to this earlier in the year. they have a nice software simulation you can play with. |
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18th October 2012
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#24 | | Gear maniac
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Haha ok maybe "London is shit" is a bit over the top. I must admit my lifestyle for the last two years has been tremendously cut back due to my will to upgrade my studio. I couldn't do it back in Aus as I'm too distracted, even making music distracts me back home as I get to work in a lovely space and would rather do that than work a full time job eek.
So 2 years and £20,000 pounds later and I'm there with my studio, I'm only 24 and I can relax. No more going to sleep wishing I had a better studio to work in. But I guess that took its toll, London became quite sterile to me, growing up in Australia I became very fond of the lifestyle. Things here can get to me.. Let me tell you a story,
I work in sales, one day a lady approached me and rudely instructed me with her hand to speak to whoever was on the other end of her phone, I kindly said yes, her husband on the phone explained to me what she wanted and that she didn't speak any English. I began to process what she wanted and asked for her debit card, she handed me some sort of post office card, I didn't understand so I asked again, she pointed to the card in my hand but it was clearly not a debit card. I asked her, as I was trying to make sense of the situation and see if it was possible she even had a British bank account, "how long have you been living in the uk?" She replied with 20 years. This angered me a little, but a persisted, "this is not a debit card mam", she responded' "this card, benefits, benefits come to this card". It really got to me and I told her we couldn't help her.
I am half British, I'm not being racist, my Mum lives here, but like me, she thinks the place is doomed. The economy is in a shambles, the benefits system is mind boggling, the health care system is almost corrupt. I just don't get it, and I believe darker times could be ahead. I walked into a sandwich bar the other day, one where you could order a pre-made sandwich or make your own at the bar, I asked the lady at the counter if I could choose my own, and she let out a massive sigh and said "I hate doing this"... Back home you'd loose your job on the spot. At work its the same, full of slackers, sick days, the lot. It's a joke, no one takes their job seriously, one guy was an absolute joke and it took him pulling another workmates pants down to his ankles at work to get him fired, and this was after the management team pressured him to make a greviance against him under "sexual harassment"!
Yes there is a big art scene here, that's fantastic, I do get to see some great things from time to time when I have the spare quid or two, but apart from that it makes me a little sick. The lifestyle in Sydney is superb, great beaches, great people, very little socioeconomic problems, great food, great service and overall great life. For the cost of a nice flat over here in London you can have a house with a pool in a rather decent suburb in Sydney. Don't tell me you can't because I've lived in both.
Might seem a little rantish, but I just wanted to explain. I work in a pretty high pressure job and maybe it's that, maybe it's because I don't get to enjoy London for what it could be to me, but to be honest..
I'd rather go to the beach.
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18th October 2012
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#25 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Oct 2002 Location: Oz
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Originally Posted by studiomood I'd rather go to the beach. | You could have just written that and left out the rest.
I've had communication issues with people in OZ. I've had plenty of rude, uninterested service down under.
That's modern life.
I think you are just telling yourself it's tough there and it isn't here.
I probably do the same. Moving across the planet is hard - bottom line.
If you're 24 and you are serious about music I would start trying to enjoy where you are, because music here is very much in the slow lane (in my humble opinion).
PS: I moved to Sydney from London 6 years ago, and Sydney property prices are insane (again, IMHO).
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18th October 2012
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#26 | | Richard Gear
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Originally Posted by chrisso
PS: I moved to Sydney from London 6 years ago, and Sydney property prices are insane (again, IMHO). |
Agree. Perhaps the worse thing about Oz now is the price of housing/renting.
In the last 15 years it has become a bad joke.
And it's not just the popular hot spots, it is virtually everywhere.
Housing used to be great value here, not really that long ago, but now it stinks.
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18th October 2012
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#27 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by jrakarl In Cessnock (I've never been there but looking at the map .... looks a bloody long way from anywhere I'd chose to live...) and with no PC working. Sheee, no wonder you're struggling. Hahaha...actually I'm sure Cessnook has some appeal for a visit... | Well, the PC is up & running now. Got that sorted but got no Internet connection on that PC (I'm on the in-laws at the moment).
But yes 'The Nock' is a tad remote. Actually I don't mind the town so much. It's quieter than my local town back home (Hornchurch, Essex), which I kind of like. A lot of places in the UK now just seem so busy! Nice to have a change from that. The Hunter Valley wine region is a stones throw away ..... but how much wine tasting can you do?! Newcastle is not far away. I quite like it there. Still miss the UK though right now. I love Sydney as well. Great city I think. Busy but not too big. Love it there Quote: |
Musically, what do you play? Do you have any mechanism to record little scratch demos...just to capture ideas? Until your PCs back up and running.
| I don't really play anything to be honest. I'm more about messing with synths & stuff & just making noise!!  I've got the iPad to keep me company. But now the PC is (almost) back up & running again I might be able to actually start doing something again now. Being somewhere new I actually feel a little more motivated to pull my finger out now, which is good. It's not all bad. Far from it to be honest |
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18th October 2012
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#28 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by chrisso You could have just written that and left out the rest.
I've had communication issues with people in OZ. I've had plenty of rude, uninterested service down under.
That's modern life.
I think you are just telling yourself it's tough there and it isn't here.
I probably do the same. Moving across the planet is hard - bottom line.
If you're 24 and you are serious about music I would start trying to enjoy where you are, because music here is very much in the slow lane (in my humble opinion).
PS: I moved to Sydney from London 6 years ago, and Sydney property prices are insane (again, IMHO). | Ok we'll bad service seems like a regular occurrence to me here, like I'm not surprised when I get it, I would be surprised in Sydney, but I'm sure it happens from time to time, it's just rare back home IMO.
Yes the prices of houses/rent is probably a bit ridiculous.
I really shouldn't be talking about it anyway, I've been for the most part of the last two years a complete humbug. But £6,000 left to spend on a new computer, cabling and a lovely sterling modular desk and I'm out, out, out. Back to the beach.
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18th October 2012
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#29 | | Gear maniac
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Originally Posted by chrisso you are serious about music I would start trying to enjoy where you are, because music here is very much in the slow lane (in my humble opinion). | I don't really agree with you, I produce electronic dance music and Australia is really booming for this, particularly places like Melbourne and Sydney. Lots of talent coming out of Aus, my friend in particular is now making a good living out of being solely an EDM producer, he is getting great gigs, now has a manager.. Wish I stayed home and continued just working ITB.. JOKES.
For me chrisso my set up in Australia is really nice, my dad is a retired concert pianist and he had a studio built in the house a long time ago, now he has given this space to me, it's basically just a dead room with a grand piano, but its fairly large in space and perfect for all my equipment, in London I don't even have space for speakers so have been using headphones, which I find uninspiring and difficult. Making music in London has been really hard for me, but this isn't what makes me hate London, just gives you an idea of why I want to return so bad!
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18th October 2012
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#30 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Oct 2002 Location: Oz
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Originally Posted by studiomood I don't really agree with you, I produce electronic dance music and Australia is really booming for this, particularly places like Melbourne and Sydney. Lots of talent coming out of Aus, my friend in particular is now making a good living out of being solely an EDM producer, he is getting great gigs, now has a manager.. | A friend of mine is a well known club artist and dj. He toured Australia and all the Aussies he shared the bill with were part timers.
The electronic artists I know in London make a living playing right across Europe every weekend. That's way in excess of the 5 or so cities you can play in Oz.
In reality, the music industry everywhere has slowed, is in crisis. Between London and Sydney or Melbourne though give me London any day. That's why most of Australia's top music talent move there or base themselves there for long periods
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