Originally Posted by aquablu8
Is the Jupiter 80 able to do a convincing MKS-80 or Jupiter 8 recreation?
Is the Jupiter 80 better than the integra 7 due to its fx structure and polyphony?
Steve Fortner, long time musician and member of the Keyboard Magazine staff, mentioned in a video review that the VA synth in the JP-80 sounded darn close to a Jupiter-8. I've heard this from several musicians, as many as have said that no, it doesn't. But given how hard the folk around here are on ANYTHING virtual analog, I'd say this recommends it as good sounding. And from audio samples I've heard of the JP-80 synth tones soloed compared to a Jupiter-8, I find it to come very close, in fact, I rather like the 80 a bit more which could simply be a matter of having nice effects on board. And I like the variety of filter types. I have to reiterate that I haven't come within miles of one, as they're about as rare as the OASYS
in stores, but the net has enough quality examples that I'm satisfied. And yes, you CAN get a good assessment of an instrument from net sources. I have way too much experience chasing down net samples and then hearing the real thing in person, so that meme about how nothing sounds the same online is bunk.
There is a caveat on that though. There is no hard sync as of yet, a weird omission on a Jupiter synth, or cross-mod.
Compared with the Integra, the advantage of the JP-80 is the insane 256 voice polyphony, and Live Mode performability. Most people also love the JP's synth action keyboard. It does have a good range of effects per part, but being a performance oriented keyboard, it's limited to four parts: Upper, Lower, Percussion and Solo. And effects are divvied up this way:
EFFECTS: 8 multi-FX (4 Upper, 4 Lower), 3 reverbs (Upper, Lower, Solo/ Percussion), 2 compressor-EQ-delay chains (Solo and Percussion), global 4-band semiparametric EQ.
The multieffects used to be parallel only, but with the latest update, I think you can do some MFX chaining, not that I think it would matter much with four effects per multi. And I believe the delays can also be configured as chorus. Because of the crazy polyphony, a lot of the synth "patches" - the equivalent of combis or performances on some synths - there are a lot of huge evolving layers slathered in effects with tinkly arpeggios running through them, and really overwhelm what the synth is really capable of as a traditional synthesizer.
The Integra-7 has the usual 128 voice polyphony, but is more focused in the kinds of sounds you expect from a Roland synth, so the huge evolvo-pads are a little less smothering. It's 16 channel multitimbral, and each part has its own multieffects feeding into an overall EQ/compressor/ambience, which Roland states gives you six of. I'm assuming "ambience" is a reverb of some type. While the JP-80 has some 4,000 patches on board, the Integra offers an insane 6,000 of them! With a category search to help you sift through them, you can probably find something that hits you in the pleasure center, or to use as the basis of a fresh patch. It's also heavily built around the traditional PCM rompler side, and includes twelve of the SRX expansions, which to me are superb sounding. Considering that many have been built by long time Roland sound designer Eric Persing of Spectrasonics fame, this comes as no surprise. You virtually "load" these four at a time to use in sound building.
Another aspect which is integral to the Integra - ba-dum - is the surround sound capability built in. And while the JP-80 gives you a basic stereo out and two aux outs, the Integra offers you ten outputs to take advantage of whatever outboard effects you have, as well as individual processing for surround sound or multi-channel production.
One drawback for the Integra-7 is the fact that to edit it, you need to use a SONAR DAW, which a basic version is included, or an iPad to program it, while the JP-80 has a marvelous touch screen.
It's a bit like comparing the JD-800
with the more potent JD-990 module. Each one has things to commend them, and it's a matter of which offers you more capacity for what you need.