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19th March 2011
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Tone2 Firebird

Anyone own or ever play this? Tried the demo out and I am impressed so far. Only $79 too. Comments anyone? (I'm looking for a more basic subtractive waveform synth, I don't need a big modulation matrix)
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guess not :p

its simple interface and big sounds really appeal to me. going to pull the trigger on this one
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Yeah Tone2 make some good synths. Check out z3ta as well, cakewalk is selling it for $15. V Station is a good sounding basic subtractive too if you don't know it.
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very familiar with subtractive synthesis. been through the ringer with both softies and VA's. Firebird has one of the better sound engines I have come across. Not a fan of ZETA. Way too bright and trancey and reliant upon presets. V Station is good but old and sounds dated. The oscillators are shit as well. Best VA I've owned to date is a Virus Desktop although I'm very impressed with my new GAIA
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Actually yeah Firebird is a big jump up from those two. Sounding good! Been a while since i tried it lol. I've actually been looking for a relatively simple synth myself for leads and this could be the ticket. Which Virus?
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Actually yeah Firebird is a big jump up from those two. Sounding good! Been a while since i tried it lol. I've actually been looking for a relatively simple synth myself for leads and this could be the ticket. Which Virus?
I had a TI Desktop. Made the decision to sell it and get a really nice computer built with the money I got for it. Ended up making $100 in the end and got to play with it for 6 months or so. Great synth. If I was to do it again though I would go with the snow, but I think I'm satisfied now when it comes to VA's. Really eyeing a Slim Phatty
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I had a TI Desktop. Made the decision to sell it and get a really nice computer built with the money I got for it. Ended up making $100 in the end and got to play with it for 6 months or so. Great synth. If I was to do it again though I would go with the snow, but I think I'm satisfied now when it comes to VA's. Really eyeing a Slim Phatty
I am thinking of getting a snow this year. Or a tetr4. Or both.

I was really impressed by the virus demo of Bladerunner. I'm trying to focus on writing some tracks now anyway so no big purchases for a while. Must control the GAS! tutt

Have you checked out Ace? One of the best sounding softsynths around imo. It's quite hifi but you can get some huge sounds out of it. It's a cpu hog though...
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Anyone own or ever play this? Tried the demo out and I am impressed so far. Only $79 too. Comments anyone? (I'm looking for a more basic subtractive waveform synth, I don't need a big modulation matrix)

I found this to be a very interesting read..... In fact downright scary.

Spread the word on this lame programmer. Tone2 = Malware.

It's not everyday AiR feels the need to comment on a █
█ release but we believe some issues about Markus Feil █
█ need to be addressed for both legitimate users and █
█ the warez community. █
█ █
█ In our opinion Markus Feil's plugins are the █
█ equivilent to MALWARE, it is with disgust we find the █
█ elaborate (and futile!) measures he has taken within █
█ his code. █
█ █
█ When a developer starts dropping files and creating █
█ empty BOGUS registry keys, writing to a users host █
█ file etc. then they have crossed a line of ethics █
█ that is inexcusable. █
█ █
█ One could argue that warez users get what they █
█ deserve, however... warez uses ALWAYS choose to take █
█ a risk when they use warez. The legitimate user █
█ however gets exactly the SAME codebase and IF things █
█ go wrong they are subjected to the same MALWARE crap █
█ undeservedly. █
█ █
█ Furthermore, our release is BETTER than what legit █
█ users are getting because we have disposed of the █
█ MALWARE traps and HAVE ENABLED TWO EXTRA NEW HIDDEN █
█ expansions that legit users DON'T have and probably █
█ DON'T know about. █
█ █
█ NOTE TO Markus: you are tool, ppl may debate our █
█ ethics but WE DON'T infect and manipulate filesystems █
█ or registries, you're no better than a virus █
█ developer in our opinion. █
█ █
█ Stick to what you know cause your protection schemes █
█ are no match for us <middle finger> █
█ █
█ Some warez users like to go legit, it's hard to see █
█ them going legit with your plugins when the █
█ experience you give them results in piss poor MALWARE █
█ techniques. **** YOU! █
█ █
█ Here are some of the techniques Markus infects your █
█ machine with: █
█ █
█ - Registry scanning █
█ █
█ - Filesystem scanning █
█ █
█ - Creating bogus registry keys █
█ █
█ - File dropping █
█ █
█ - Multiple \system32\drivers\etc\host file updates █
█ █
█ - Deletion of files █
█ █
█ - Phone home notification █
█ █
█ - ExitWindowsEx calls (causes machine to shutdown) █
█ █
█ - DLL unpacked checks █
█ █
█ █
█ # Registry scanning... █
█ █
█ Markus has coded his plugins to look for other Tone2 █
█ and reFX registry entries, if blacklisted serials are █
█ found then his MALWARE is invoked. These include █
█ Firebird, FilterBank, Warmverb, Gladiator, Vanguard █
█ █
█ # Filesystem scanning... █
█ █
█ Markus has coded his plugins to look for other █
█ products keyfiles, if blacklisted keyfiles are found █
█ then his MALWARE is invoked. This includes FireBird, █
█ FilterBank, Warmverb, Gladiator █
█ █
█ # Bogus registry entries... █
█ █
█ Markus creates keys in HKEY_CURRENT_USER █
█ █
█ at least two NEW keys with no data (not disclosing to █
█ protect privacy). if you have been subjected to the █
█ MALWARE traps check your registry, the keys will be █
█ obvious as the names are crap, make no sense and they █
█ have no data under them. █
█ █
█ # File dropping... █
█ █
█ Markus creates: █
█ █
█ twdef.sys █
█ █
█ wvdriver.sys █
█ █
█ r2._9X1.r █
█ █
█ gldriver.sys █
█ █
█ gsndrun.sys █
█ █
█ █
█ + about 4 other random file names (not disclosing to █
█ protect privacy) █
█ █
█ If your going to look for these files make sure you █
█ have turned off 'Hide protected operating system █
█ files' in explorer. Typically they are dropped in the █
█ same location as the Gladiator2 dll. █
█ █
█ # Update of hosts file... █
█ █
█ Markus updates the users host file with a massive █
█ list of warez, torrent and other site urls █
█ █
█ # Deletion of files... █
█ █
█ Markus deletes any blacklisted keyfiles from the █
█ users machine
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Tried the demo out and I am impressed so far. Only $79 too. Comments anyone?
Your impressed by the demo and like the price. What more is there to say ?
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Bugs....(these are examples) oscillators sound out of sync when in _______ mode, etc. Get my idea? I want to get it, but i want to make sure it is a good product not just audio but the program and developer as a whole
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Bugs....(these are examples) oscillators sound out of sync when in _______ mode, etc. Get my idea? I want to get it, but i want to make sure it is a good product not just audio but the program and developer as a whole
try kvr they love to talk endlessly on plugin minutiae...and have all the knowledge on the subject....
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Bugs....(these are examples) oscillators sound out of sync when in _______ mode, etc. Get my idea? I want to get it, but i want to make sure it is a good product not just audio but the program and developer as a whole
It's a while since i had it but i didn't have any issues with it at all. One thing i didn't like was the drop down menus to change oscillator and mod shapes, too much editing with a mouse for me. And re the malware, i thought it had been established that that there was no truth in that.
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It's a while since i had it but i didn't have any issues with it at all. One thing i didn't like was the drop down menus to change oscillator and mod shapes, too much editing with a mouse for me. And re the malware, i thought it had been established that that there was no truth in that.
It's a form of Malware if the product does things it shouldn't. Plus, not alot of releases contain these type of accusations. You can search to see where the product installs.
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The reason behind that warez group's FUD is obvious, there was a considerable sum of money offered publicly to whoever provided a significant lead to find people behind it. You haven't even read Tone2's forum, but great that you believe a warez group's idiotic definition of "malware".
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What do I care if you use the product? I don't...but I thought I'd send the news....
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